Reports claim Usher didn't even know his wife was going to Brazil to have liposcution. It's also being reported that she lied to doctors about the birth of her last child claiming she'd given birth 4 months ago when her son is only two months old. We knew something was fishy when pictures of Usher leaving Brazil one day before his wife was released from the hospital after an eleven day stay surfaced. Wouldn't a more loving and concerned husband have waited and flown back with his wife? I'm just saying.
Thursday, February 19, 2009
Usher Didn't Know
Reports claim Usher didn't even know his wife was going to Brazil to have liposcution. It's also being reported that she lied to doctors about the birth of her last child claiming she'd given birth 4 months ago when her son is only two months old. We knew something was fishy when pictures of Usher leaving Brazil one day before his wife was released from the hospital after an eleven day stay surfaced. Wouldn't a more loving and concerned husband have waited and flown back with his wife? I'm just saying.
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Ush you better watch that sneaky bitch..
Well OF COURSE she left the country to have elective surgery w/o telling her husband—just as he's starting a new work project!
Remember their aborted wedding (the big one) and her sudden health crisis?
This chick is ALL ABOUT THE DRAMA.
Nothing in his life will be quiet or enjoyable as long as she's on the scene. NOTHING.
But she'd better watch it, this little stunt has now put a new bug in her young husband's ear..."what if she HAD died on the table; wouldn't he (and his new children) be better off?"
Dammit Snitch, it's about time you updated. I was palpitating yesterday from RWS withdrawals.
Anyway, it's true, Tameka does seem like a drama queen, but obviously this is what Usher likes. He's probably the same way.
Thankfully she is well enough to go home.
Cosmetic surgey is not the business. Risking your health and/or life to live up to societies riduclous standards is just plain dumb. ESPECIALLY when you have children.
People need to learn to love themselves as they are.
^^
*surgery
*ridiculous
Hmm... If I were Usher, I'd seriously be reconsidering this so called "marriage" to Tameka. She sounds a little off.
Hmmm...he left a day before she was released? Could this have been the last straw? Oh, BTW, since she lied about her medical history, she can't sue. Everything was her fault. She's lucky this didn't turn into Donda Part II.
This is sad. I'm sure he's thinking older women weren't supposed to be this much drama. I married her, stomach flab, multiple kids, arguing with my own mama and all.
Now she leaving my kids(like she left her other ones), sneaking out of the country to get cosmetic surgery(using my damn money) and damn near killing her crazy ass(damn near, can't do shit right) because she's a liar and insecure.
Hell, I should've stuck with young groupies.
Yeah. O well back to Las Vegas aka TITTY LAND!
Mrs. Moody
She knew this would cause Drama...She is lovin' the attention right now. She wanted to hurt Herself
She's a dumb bish, and she got exactly what she deserves for doing something this stupid. I would seriously have to question the mental stability of any woman who willingly puts her life at risk by deceiving the doctors who are set to perform surgery on them and apparently she wasn't paying attention to what happened with Kanye's mother. Stupidity did her in, and even though Tameka dodged the bullet this go-round, she might not be so lucky next time. smmfh @ her
Guess no one learned anything from Kanyes mom about these "Quiet surgeries" somebody with 4 -5 kids goes in and doesnt say anything???? This might be inappropriate but pretty sure she pulling a Shante on him just hiding and storing up for a rainy one.
Guess no one learned anything from Kanyes mom about these "Quiet surgeries" somebody with 4 -5 kids goes in and doesnt say anything???? This might be inappropriate but pretty sure she pulling a Shante on him just hiding and storing up for a rainy one.
Poor Ursh. I feel bad for him.
What was she gonna say when she saw him after dropping pounds overnight? Nobody dont need that kind of foolishness in their marriage. A mofo just died not listening to a doctor's advice. We lose Tameka and all Usher's music gonna be done with autotune.
I'm not saying he's a bad husband for not staying by his man....uhh i mean WOman, but he's an entertainer and he has might have rock solid business obligations that if he were to skip out on he would get sued. All sort of stuff considering he's not just a 9 to 5 working guy.
I'd say give him the benefit of the doubt before calling him a bastard.
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so right 9:22. so right.
and her ass shoulda known better it's not like she's 22. judgmental stance over.
i don't think any of us really know what she's going through, it's probably very difficult being criticized all the time. also, look at all the beautiful women usher is working with on a daily. her problem may be deeper than just insecurity. poor thing.
*and he might*
I just re-read my shit after post and i sound like i type with a brain seizure.
^^^
That's alright baby (at Bronx) cause you LOOK good enough to eat this morning.
^^ Ur BSOM and not to mention she didn't even tell him so whatever obligations and/or appts he already had before had to be put on hold for him to go to Brazil to see about her looney ass.
Strike Two, Tameka.
@ Da Shit
Usher and the kids are the ONLY ones I feel sorry for (obviously), but then again: I'm sure he had some idea what she was about before he married her, so that begs the question: should we REALLY feel sympathy for him?
Something is seriously wrong w/her in tha dome piece fa real! *dead* @
9:29.......LOL......SO DAYUM TRUE! WHERE IS CHILLI WHEN U NEED HER?
lol @ 10:07
The writing's on the wall for her insecure ass. I guess she thought (or knew) he was cheating with a prettier woman.
She was mad because she was banned from his recording session. And this was the best way she could act out. She is showing that she is able to control him.
Now...if he really wants to play hardball, it sounds like he's already got more than enough to work with (especially considering this latest shit) if he wants a court to rule that her judgement is impaired and that she is not fit to raise their children.
She could find herself branded the crazy, ex-Mrs. Usher in short order, and be separated from her latest chillun. She wouldn't go away broke, but she would no longer be in a position to pull his chain like she's doing now.
Usher's moms is looking better every day, and you KNOW she's reading every word about Tameka! Hi, Mrs. U!!
What else does Usher NOT know?
^^
Usher doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would cheat on his wife, and I had the utmost respect for him when he married her in the first place. He could have had any woman he wanted, but he chose her and stood up for his choice when people tried to clown him. I wasn't mad at him for that...I think he genuinely loves her, but for whatever reason, she's to fuggin' insecure to let that be enough. I also read that she's supposed to replace one of the women from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, so that could be another possible reason why she was so pressed to have surgery.
^^
That's to WS.
Tameka is a man eater. His 15 minutes is bout up though. Ursh just had to try to prove to the world how honest, beautiful and sweet his husband was and now look! He even deceived Ursh. Go figure.
Plus, Donda West, James Brown's first wife...plastic surgery is just deadly any way you look at it.
Jelly Belly Tameka should just take care of all them kids and be a SAHM...get a home gym and a personal chef and work it off.
In the mean time, Ursh is not all that committed to her anyway. He ain't fooling me either...just like his husband.
Back to my breakfast.
Wasn't Fertile Myrtle married (with children, of course) when she and Usher got together?
Ursher was thinking so that's how she got her figure back so fast after she had Little Ursher the 12th! that b*tch lied. Guess if you seen one scar you seen them all she know he aint checkin her like that. She do got that I can tell him anything face. They say one is born everyday but when he sings and dances and has millions of dollars what a plus. I know his mother is somewhere shaking her head!
Ursher was thinking so that's how she got her figure back so fast after she had Little Ursher the 12th! that b*tch lied. Guess if you seen one scar you seen them all she know he aint checkin her like that. She do got that I can tell him anything face. They say one is born everyday but when he sings and dances and has millions of dollars what a plus. I know his mother is somewhere shaking her head!
This will come to no good.
Lest we forget, Tameka is an ex-con. And that's why SHADY comes naturally to her. But he knew what he was getting into. Thought he could handle it. Now too proud to say that his momma was proved right.
Oh well, time will tell.
If he'd found a nice dude to settle down with, none of this shit woulda happened. Has he never heard of Ricky Martin??
^^ha ha ha! He could have still had his sons just like Ricky! @antisocial, I think it's admirable he sticks with her despite all the criticism, but I'm not going to go so far as to say he would never cheat. It seems like most men and women in Hollywood cheat. I thought Denzel and Morgan were standup guys and look at them. Look at Bill Cosby. I think he's just too stubborn to admit he made a mistake to his mom and his fans. He will eventually have to eat crow if he wants his career to be as big as it used to be. I feel a bit sorry for her because I know she's scared hurting physically, but Tameka is bad news. She brought this on herself and embarassed him.
@ Anti- should we REALLY feel sympathy for him?
I do think he thumbed his nose at us (his fans) when he married this chick to such opposition. And his mama raised him relatively well and he seemed to shit on her...so youre right... "hows that working for ya, Ursh?"
LOl @ "Fertile Myrtle" + me for calling the kettle black.
You mean to tell me Gargoyle went all the way to Brazil for surgery?
All she had to do was come see me!!! I would have cut her any kind of way she wanted. Just pay me and we could keep it a life long secret from Usher.
Get a little money and don't know WHAT to do with it but run to another country. Damn.
Meka Meek didn't want that belly to hang low post baby. Can't be mad at that.
Just wondering who taking care of all the boys while getting lip suction and Usher getting other body parts suction.
I think this is a publicity stunt.
Since when does the media care about Usher, let alone, his wife.
Thank God, she's out of the hospital. Maybe now the updates and speculations about why she was there in the first place can end.
I'd be running away from this chick so fast I'd be settin world records left and right.
@ WS
I didn't say he would never cheat...I said he doesn't strike me as the type (esp. considering the history of their relationship). As for Denzel and the others, those are [older] men who have been married since brownie was a puppy so their infidelities aren't really as surprising. Imo, Usher and Tameka haven't been married long enough for his eyes to be wanderin' already; then again, she was pregnant when they got married, so maybe that was his real motivation for taking the plunge.
@ Da Shit
I do think the way he treated his mother was out of line, and maybe it would have behooved him to pay attention to whatever she had to say about Tameka. I can't even begin to dissect the dynamics of their relationship, but it seems he may be reaping the consequences of his choice. *shrugs*
I also meant to ask are people for real when they say that Usher is gay? I've been reading some other blogs and I've seen numerous posts from people alluding to it, so I'm wondering what gives folks that idea. Normally my gaydar is on point, but I've never had it go off where Usher is concerned, so someone clue me in! lol
@11:32 AM
This may be the exception to the "no such thing as bad publicity" saying...
We already know she was in Brazil for post-natal elective cosmetic surgery—their statement said that.
And we know that she was attempting said surgery against doctor's advice and too soon after giving birth.
Well, people who had never heard of K. West before learned that his mother died under very similar circumstances—hence the interest.
At the very least, it makes Tameka sound reckless, and has caused more than one person to ask: where are her children (one is an infant) in all this mess?
Bottom line: Even the world's worst publicity whore would not want this kind of attention.
wouldnt a loving wife NOT lie to her husband and doctors about her health and what is being done? That should be the question...
sucks that this chick would risk her life when she has children.
THIS WEEK'S EPISODE OF IS SHE, OR ISN'T SHE/HE
The hospital room door bursts open and Usher and his crew rush through. Usher kneels at Tameka's bedside and asks, "Why? Baby, why? Why did you do this?"
Tameka answers, "I wanted to surprise you, baby. Please don't be mad. I know how you hate it floppin' around when we make love" Brushing tears from his eyes, he slowly rises, looking lovingly into what was once a man, but has now been transformed into a fully-functioning (albeit man-made) woman.
"I love you, Tony-err,Tameka. What did they do with 'it'?" Usher asks.
"It will be sectioned off and used for enlargements for those less fortunate." she replies.
This pleases Usher. He turns, looks at his crew, smiles, and leaves the hospital.
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@ Birds
Preach!
TPOKW?
O. M. G. I am choking.
What about a song when he leaves the hospital? Is the wind blowing his jacket open? Does Tameka have on full face?
Stop it!
as much as i've defended tameka in the past, i have to admit, this isn't a good look. i'm starting to see her as a manipulator too, and i really hate that.
Look at this pitiful nigga. Dat pic says "Hold me...please?"
Sorry but it's gonna take more than "reports" for a nigga do believe this shit is gospel like some people do. Seems dat "Reports" will neva say anything in favor of Tameka, so I'll file this shit into BITCH'S They Say folder fa now. Sistas love demonizin' Tameka and basically givin' this pop tart nigga a free pass.
Prince you a fool.
Prince... when is the book out? lol
@TPOKW LMAO see I should expect this from you!
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@ Bee Gee
I've never had an opinion on Tameka either way, but I'm callin' her out on this because I believe the reports have the ring of truth (ie her lying about how long it had been since the birth of her last child). In addition to finding it odd that she went all the way to Brazil for the surgery, my initial reaction was, WTH...didn't she just have a baby? And I'm quite sure that that thought crossed the minds of plenty of other people. Only she knows what her motivation was behind this stunt, but considering Usher was working and/or scheduled for appearances while she was stuck at home (for all intents and purposes), it's definitely not good look at all.
antisocial hunny i never see you post any positive comments about ANY female do you notice this?
Boooooooooo.
Why is everyone always dumping on her? This is all alleged anyway. And even if she didn't tell him, weren't there "reports" a few weeks ago that she was banned from the studio in Vegas and he didn't want her around while he was recording?
That is some messed up stuff considering she has FIVE children - two of them very small. He was probably in Vegas doing all types of shit while she was home with the kids. Probably with a nanny too, but still. No one thinks its appropriate for a mother with small kids to be out partying but I bet not a single person would tell Usher he was in the wrong while he partied in Vegas.
So if she decided to get a nip/tuck (which I don't advocate at all) while her husband was purposefully excluding her from his professional life than how is she so wrong? I doubt he didn't know where she was at all.
And I still think he knew, this is just damage control. if people knew he willingly let his wife have risky surgery he'd face another beat down in the press and on blogs. What kind of man would "leak" this info anyway?
^^^
Do you demand that your husband take you to his job?
And no one wanted "Tameyoko" in the studio?
Big effin surprise.
@ antisocial - I hear you, momma. And yeh da whole storyline definitely makes sense, but it's hollywood and "reports" don't mean a thing. Da actual truth could be dat Ursh sent her down there and when shit went wrong, tried to get in, make sure she was good, and get out real quick. Who knows? What I do know tho, is dat everything said about homegirl has been negative from da gate, and true or not, it paints a picture of her in people's minds, so "reports" like this one are not hard fa niggas to swallow because it's in keeping with dat picture. Considerin' what's been laid out about her, Tameka on some sneaky, grimey shit is an easily believable story, but da truth could be anything.
Nah,he knew...ole gal was gettin
cut....manchild
@antisocial
...you just seem to constantly be so hard on every female.
@ Jill
WTF are you babbling about? Do you honestly expect me to come in a post such as this and big-up Tameka for making such a foolish decision? If a bish gives me something to give her props on, I have no problem doing so, and maybe you need to stop stalking my font and concerning yourself with my opinions (since they obviously vex you so). *snicker*
@ 1:21
Exactly! The man was working, so just because he didn't want her here, that automatically means he was up to no good? Alllllllllllllllrighty then!
smh & cthu
no matter what the truth is, whether we know it or not, no doubt their marriage is gonna be in trouble. i think that usher is a kind and loving husband, but people can only take so much before they call it quits. his image has suffered since he's no longer single, his music isn't selling as well and people aren't liking it as much. and frankly, the average man that brings home the money would be a little irritated and worried when the woman that is supposed to be home taking care of the kids is doing something as foolish and dangerous as this. i stay home and go to school while my son's father pays the bills, and he'd put a foot in my ass if i did something like this.
@ Bee Gee
I feel you, but since I never kept up with the foolery when they started dating/got engaged and what followed after their marriage, I have no clue as to what's already been put out there concerning Tameka. Along that vein, I'm just going off of what I perceive to be a fugged up sitiuation and trust...my stance would be the same if this story involved any woman who had just given birth. When stupid people do stupd shit, they gets none this way (much like Kanye's mother). *shrugs*
i'm not just talking about tameka *snicker* ???
beyonce, solange, rihanna...
you don't know what it's like to be tameka and you're judging her. i bet you're one of the first to be calling her ugly too.
i'm not bigging her up but stop bigging up usher (who left his sick wife in a hospital in brazil) and dogging her out.
just like you condone chris brown and you probably side with jayson williams and d. wade. yeah you probably do.
@ jill
Let you tell it, but if that is your perception, why do you care? Like I told someone last week: if you don't like what I have to say, scroll right past and don't bother acknowledging me, because when you do, it shows that you're affected (and I'm sure you wouldn't be so feeble minded as to let a pixel do that to you, would you)?
@antisocial --- you're a woman hater.
and you're right i couldn't care less. i love my vaginia.
@ Malika
Co-sign! Shew...I wish a nicca would allow me to stay home with the kiddies while he brings home the bacon. He wouldn't want for nothin' (and damn shole wouldn't have to worry about me pulling stupid azz stunts to get his attention).
@1:21
I don't need to demand anything. But to tell your spouse that you would prefer that they not be around and to not even want them in the same city as you is pretty messed up.
Just my opinion.
She has SMALL children and that is very stressful even if you have some help. She is also constantly being assaulted on blogs for her appearance. How would that make you feel? My husband didn't work for a few months after we had our second child because he realized I needed help and support from HIM. The fact that Usher ran back to the studio speaks volumes.
u betta PREACH hollywood!
There is a classic picture of these two—Snitch has run it before—which I always thought gave some insight into their relationship:
Tameka is reaching across Usher to take a champagne flute and the look on his face is priceless.
Was she pregnant at the time? Had she already had too much to drink? Don't know.
But the dynamic of him being the responsible, mature one in the marriage, despite Tameka being old enough to be his Momma...[OK let me stop LOL] Anyway, she has already shown that her judgement is sketchy, at best.
When they met he was clearly trying to cut the apron strings from a mother who was also managing his career. Tameka was in the right place at the right time. But she may have already outlived her usefulness to him if this is the kind of shit she's gonna pull in the future.
@ jill
bwahahahahaha
Fuggin' *dead*
I'm a woman, but I hate women? Chile are you serious?! Look...I'm sorry if you [and some of the others] can't hang, but aside from my last piece of advice to you, I ain't got shit for you, neither. smh & ctfu @ some folks idiocy
@antisocial-- funny thing, i was watching tyra the other day.. it was about GAY dudes that hate GAYS.
you have extremely low self esteem, as a woman, this is evident and actually i kinda feel sorry for you.
the fact you 1) WANT to stay home and 2) no "nicca" wants to let you stay home with your kids speaks volumes about you as a person.
1you are a lazy baby pusher outer and 2you don't make good choices in men 3the men you end up with couldn't care less about you and yours.
Fuck Jill! The dumb bitch has nothing but positive comments to say about EVERY fuckin female no matter how dumb a bitch is! Every man is the enemy and every woman is a victim with this delusional dingbat!
I also just want to add that this is a "man" who has used publicity stunts for years to try and boost interest in him and his music.
When he allegedly cheated on Chili he was a dog but now we're supposed to believe he has been treating that evil ogre Tameka like a princess?
I don't care what anyone says, I still think Tameka catches a lot of heat because she does not look like the kind of woman a successful black man would have on his arm. If that picture of her drinking champagne was with a man who looked more like her, it would have just been funny. But that fact that it was with Usher and he is a celebrity all types of crazy theories have been attached.
Sad.
Just as an aside, a "Tummy Tuck" is no joke. It's major surgery. And because black skin tends to develop keloid scarring, I'm amazed that any woman would prefer that to loose skin after childbirth.
It's not an easy fix. But it's marketed in a way (even the name sounds benign) to make you think it's a better alternative to a gym membership and a balanced diet.
OK Hollywood, and you know we have to ask:
What have you heard about Mr. Raymond? Take your time and tell it all, girl. You are among friends here LOL!
agree hollywood.
here we are complaining about the pressure of society expecting people to be exceptionally beautiful, and a handsome eligible black man with NO children marries for what obviously has to be love, and all chicks do is dog the poor broad out until she risks her life trying to live up to some unattainable standard (for her anyway). tsk tsk tsk.
round and round we go.
the poor woman is barely out of the hospital and the bashing begins.
what she did was so not right (and dangerous and stupid), but i'm having a really hard time placing blame solely on her.
Dumb ass move! At least be smart enough to wait until the doctor recommended time if you are going to do this shit. At the end of the day she is responsible for her own damn self. She's a grown ass woman.
@2:05
To be honest, I don't know a lot about the music industry outside of what most gossip followers hear. But I do know that his agent at Paradigm is about to drop him because he isn't really getting any film offers anymore.
He has been attached to a remake of the 80's classic "The Big Chill" with Regina King and Boris Kodjoe for about a year. But there is no script yet (Regina King and her sister are writing it).
I know that he ran through a gang of groupies while he was filming "light it up" but that's not really news and it happens all the time on nearly every film set.
Sorry, he's kind of a C-lister in the movie biz.
@ 1:58
Bless you my child, for preventing me from wasting anymore of my precious time on her infantile azz. I'm not familiar with ole girl at all...shew...I don't pay that much attention to people on blogs to be able to psychoanalyze them and shit, but I must admit, I get a kick out of how much shine I get her on RWS. I guess this is the closest I'll ever get to being famous, so with that said, thanx to all of my 'fans'...I couldn't have done it without you! *snicker*
@jill:
But you want to know something? I've always thought Tameka was attractive. She is very photogenic and has a beautiful smile.
Am I wrong in thinking that the majority of the criticism about her looks comes from other women who think Usher can do much better?
Thanks Hollywood. Have you heard anything about his sexuality? Before he married Tameka, there were stories making the rounds about all-male parties in the H-wood Hills.
antisocial go change your babies diapers, you know you ain't got no man to help you at with that.
psychoanalyze.. wow big word for a high-school drop out babymama. if i were you i'd be mad at every female that has her shit together too, hunny.
Jill,
I was reading an article a few days ago about "blameless white womanhood"/ The idea that white women rarely hold each other accountable for their actions. They always find an excuse for why someone did something, even if it was dangerous and stupid. I have witnessed this in person all the time. There is a code they have amongst each other that no matter what, they will defend the other. This is why the feminist movement was so successful for white women.
Anyway, I kind of wish black women would adopt a code of our own. So many people, including black men, have zero respect for black women no matter how good, smart, talented we are. So it's even worse for women with "spotty" pasts. I made the choice a few years ago to try and defend black women whenever I can unless I PERSONALLY know they are no good (like Sanaa Lathan, LOL). Because we (black women) rarely have anyone come to our defense about anything. Meanwhile the Natalie Holloway's of the world are looked at as saints. That girl was probably a dumb whore who hooked up with the wrong dudes but to the world she is a victim.
I don't know, some may disagree, but I don't see what people get out of dogging out black women. It doesn't make you look "cool" or "progressive" when you do things like that in my opinion. You are just another person casting blame on a group of women no one has ever viewed as worthy of protection.
So yeah, I stan for most black women even when they do dumb shit. I don't care.
2:14 i personally didn't think she was super attractive, but yeah her smile is amazing, but ppl make her out to look like a mix between a horse and a gorilla. she's not that bad!
i personally think that its just a lot of jealousy.
^^^So women who CHOOSE to stay home can't possibly have their shit together? Dumb ass feminazi! LOL
all that work done and she still ugly. i can't think of one thing tameka can possibly do to make herself pretty. Some people are just ugly, deal with it. I looked at her picture, her nose and lips are a normal size. it's her facial expressions, she making herself ugly. if she just stop trying so hard she wouldn't be so ugly.
i would be so scared to let someone cut my face.
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@Hollywood:
I think the default reaction is to generally give white women the benefit of the doubt...
HOWEVER, when they fuck up bad, society—including other women who are white—can be merciless.
Remember the "Runaway Bride?"
On the other hand, the term "Strong Black Woman" was coined to acknowledge that black women have a harder row to hoe, and their strength is admirable.
Women getting a pass (no matter their color) is really just recognition of their historical victimhood. (In my opinion)
@ Jill
Seriously...are you a lesbo or somethin'? I only ask becuz you're riding my clit offly hard, but sorry boo boo...I'm not interested. smh & ctfu @ u
omg hollywood so true! blk chicks are always so ready to dog one another out, why?
i used to think that it's b/c black women are super protective of black men.
but it amazes me that even when blk men dog us out (ie OJ) we're still so willing to still jump to their defense.
and it's so sad because do black men have our backs? RARELY.
big up you are so right, imma stop hatin' on beyonce lol.
2:28 WHY is it default reaction to generally give white women the benefit of the doubt.
because black women are considered conniving and mean, when bad things happen we deserve it because we're goldiggers and we always want more than what we're worth.
it is sad.
but so true we do it to ourselves as well, it begins with us.
@Anonymous
The Runaway Bride still got a book deal. Susan Smith had tv movies made about her life. When was the last time a black female murderer had a film made about her (narrative, not documentary). The perception is STILL that there was a reason for their behavior, no that they are just rabid, animalistic criminals (i.e. black men without the penises).
And women have historically been victims and still are. Misogyny and sexism are so pervasive that even WOMEN don't see it and think it's just par for the course.
I am not a feminist by any means. I think there are some biological components to the sexes that trump any nurturing ot socialization. But I do think that if black women want to get out of our piss poor position in society, it is going to take us supporting each other first because everyone else is looking out for self. Black men support each other and have patriarchy on their side, white men support each other and white women and white women have always only been concerned with themselves.
So black women continue to worry about black men and step on each other's throats in the process. So who is looking out for us?
That's why their needs to be a code. We don't have to be a vicious as white women but sometimes we can cut a sister some slack. Especially when that sister had STRONG motivations for getting surgery and lying to her doctor.
Just sayin'.
@Hollywood:
I do have a question. I see where you are coming from when you say black women need to have a code, really I do, but I question sticking up for a sister when she is doing something that endangers her life and something that, if she were to die, would forever change the lives of her children. I have a problem with that. I mean really Tameka only had to wait a couple of more months before she got the surgery. Why take the risk? What is it worth? Maybe black women need not turn to being like white women and just be themselves. Risking her life to alter her looks is bad. It shows where her priorities are.
jill @ 1:58, you made it seem like its freaking CRAZY for a woman to WANT to stay home with her kids. i know plenty of women that are forced to work while they wish they didn't have to. there's nothing wrong with a woman wanting to be around to raise her young children.
but on to the other stuff, i agree that tameka gets a lot of grief because she isn't a video model and i've said that on here before. i've defended tameka in a lot of ways up until this point. i still feel sorry for her because i know if i married usher, i'd be the one catching hell because i'm not chili, i'm not a size 2, i don't have green eyes, light skin or long straight hair.
but at the end of the day she should have put her family and her personal safety first and not done this. if she thought she caught hell before, this is really going to mess with her head and pull her and her husband further apart.
our features are not designed to mess with. The only thing surgeons can do is give you white features, a black women is not pretty with white women features. there's ugly white women and there's ugly black women.
@Hollywood: I hear you, but I still wouldn't want to change places with the Runaway Bride or Susan Smith (who I think may be in permanent protective custody because she is so hated), no matter what kind of deals they got after the fact.
My observation has been that women are always harder on other women. The fact that black women generally have fewer options in this country means they are often hyper-competitive with one another.
Maybe it's a given that no matter who Usher married there was bound to be criticism. The fact that Tameka has some baggage makes it that much easier for some to hate her.
First of all, she was getting LIPOSUCTION. That is not facial reconstruction surgery. That is just trying to get rid of that damn baby belly. I dont get how folks are trying to say she was trying to change her face.
Anyway to the person who said she put her life in danger and thus the future of her children - i agree.
But she didn't go to a back alley surgeon to have an abortion, she went to the plastic surgery capital of the world to have a routine procedure done. Liposuction is routine for plastic surgeons. She was in a medical facility where she could assume she would be taken care of if need be. And she was.
She should have waited but maybe she was impatient or maybe she wanted to do it before an upcoming event where she had to make an appearance with her very rich and successful husband. Rich wives do crash diets, get plastic surgery and all types of stuff to look "good" for their spouses and the image of their spouses. I just think she got caught up in it like Donda West, Lil Kim, Vivica Fox and all the other nameless, faceless women of color who are trying to fit into an ideal.
I am not excusing her but again, I understand her motivations. I feel sorry for her more than anything.
I'ont get some of da comments on here. This shit aint a Black woman thing. Rock said it best. Generally speakin' women son't like otha women, I'ongive a fuck what color you talkin' about either. Da notion dat Black women have been left all alone and have to fend for themselves, be serious. HB, you may not be feminist, but dat was kinda femenist. I've been with and around all types of women. Women just do not like each otha. If Tameka was a sexy redbone, sistas would find some otha shit to clown her on because who she is or what she looks like is irrelevant.
I'm not sayin' sistas should give Tameka a break because she's a sista. I'm sayin' dat nobody knows what da hell da truth is, and ESPECIALLY with these hollywoodians. Chris & Rhi are a prime example. Tameka has been ruled an ugly, man-ish, golddigger from jump, so anytime she's wrapped in some drama, da opinions will side with da original perception of her.
Sure sistas need to have a lil more unity, as we all do. And I agree at there are some things about da perception of Black women dat only Black women have da power to change in da long. But da Black women are all alone angle is crazy, baby. Shit, I'm right here witchu, girl. This shit happens together, not separate. Cuz I aint shit without mah Black woman behind me and vice versa. I'm soapboxin' a lil bit.
Oh God, I give up. Women will never get any further if we constantly make excuses for the dumb shit other women do. It doesn't matter how routine the surgery was, the fact of the matter is that after having a baby doctors don't recommend a woman doing any heavy lifting, let alone an elective surgery. And I am sorry, I do not see an event with her rich, successful husband as a reason to risk her life. She has children and herself to live for. And I will not give her a pass just because she is black and I am black. Further, she is fully aware of what happened to Donda West, Lil Kim, and Vivica Fox, etc. that should have been all the more reason for her to be motivated to wait.
Personally, I hate it when black women change their looks, and I won't defend it. We have a look that is all our own and we need to embrace it. Women like Tameka are in a position to make a stand against this kind of perception and what does she do? Fall in line with the rest of the sell outs. It's as if she is telling the young black females of the future that their black features are something to be ashamed of. Besides, who don't know that most women have a baby belly after they give birth. Deal with the criticism and move on. Being the wife of a celebrity, there is going to be plenty of criticism.
And to top that off, she is a thick girl she is never going to be a size 2 or she won't look good if she is (example: Star Jones). So I don't know what she thought the surgery was going to do. Not everyone is going to accept her as a big girl and not everyone is going to accept her if she's small.
Aww Bee Gee, your comment was sweet.
Look, I am not saying that ALL black men are just out for self, but let's be real, most of them are. ANd while they may not explicitly state that they are, their actions reflect that. I am sure that men like you are out there but if you look at the state of many black areas there are lots of black women and hardly any black men. And the ones that are around are the predatory type.
And I never said all women aren't catty but when a white woman is a VICTIM or has suffered some sort of terrible occurrence nearly every white woman will come to her defense even if it is her fault.
Not the case at all with black women.
can someone name one black women that actually looked better after plastic surgery. tameka look like she already had some work done,and she still not happy with her looks.
@ Bee Gee
I kind of understand the race angle because as a Black woman, I don't care about (nor do I concern myself with), the issues that other races of women face. The disparities between 'us' and them are numerous [not only as it pertains to image] and imo, [even though we're all of the HUMAN race],all things are not relative between the ethnicities contained within it.
@ 3:19
EPIC post! ^5
@ 3:19
Preach!
I won't defend idiotic behavior.
Tameka has been dealing with critiscm for how many years? And she couldn't wait a loosy 4-6 months after giving birth to have lipo? Definitely does show you where her priorities are.
@ 3:42
Nope...I sure can't (and I doubt anyone else will be able to, either).
"I kind of understand the race angle because as a Black woman, I don't care about (nor do I concern myself with), the issues that other races of women face. The disparities between 'us' and them are numerous [not only as it pertains to image] and imo, [even though we're all of the HUMAN race],all things are not relative between the ethnicities contained within it."
CO-SIGN!
"And she couldn't wait a loosy 4-6 months after giving birth to have lipo? Definitely does show you where her priorities are."
CO-SIGN again! That's all I am trying to say. It's bad enough to get surgery, but to risk your life is for it is dumb, dumb, dumb. And to defend it is wrong as well. And to say that black women as a whole are salty toward each othere is wrong as well.
hollywood @ 2:43 you articulated that perfectly, i'm envious. i especially agree with your 3rd paragraph.
@malika: yeah i thinks it's crazy that anyone would want to stay home with their kids (hell i think it's crazy people even want kids).
being forced to work and deliberately and repeatedly making bad choices (then expecting sympathy) is another thing.
antisocial if a were a lesbian, brainless self-loathing fools such as yourself would straighten me out.
back to hollywood: yeah tameka was dumb doing what she did but look at how she's being crucified. it's like it would kill these heffas just to be a little bit supporting or understanding.
scroll down to the d.wade story, he fully has every dudes (and some ladies too of course) support.
@3:19 how far will women get if all we do is keep dogging each other out??
I agree that Usher needs to find him a nice boyfriend and call it a day.
^^
And again I ask...what makes people think/isinuate that he's gay?
BEE GEE FOR PREZ-2012! That was well said my brotha!
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She must've thought that Ursh would be stupid enough to believe that her new wounds would still be from childbirth...PLEASE!!! Something told me that he wouldn't sanction that rash, dangerous move, esp. one that would leave him the primary caretaker (in her down time) of a toddler and a newborn. If he can hit the gym, why couldn't she join him?!? Sad, sad, sad....
@4:01 Jill:
Well, let's see. If you think women should be quiet and not call another woman out on risking her life for her looks as "dogging" another women out, then we won't get any further than we are. Women will continue to mutilate themselves, thus, continuing to be objects in the minds of men, they will teach their daughters the same and we will only get worse.
BTW, how is saying that in this particular case (Tameka's surgery), anyone is "dogging" her out because they say what she is doing is dangerous and dumb? Second question, by your own definition, aren't you on here dogging women out who stay home with children?
"it's like it would kill these heffas just to be a little bit supporting or understanding."
I am supportive of anyone (not just wome) who has a real surgery for a real problem like cancer, organ transplant, etc. but someone making a CHOICE to alter their looks ummmm....NO!!! IT IS NOT NECESSARY! You know the risks going in, deal with the consequences.
@Hollywood Blackout 2:21-
So yeah, I stan for most black women even when they do dumb shit. I don't care.
I don't think anyone should blindly support any other person, political party, neighborhood, color, religion, corporate product, employer, spouse-I think you get my meaning. When someone does something ridiculous, who better than to criticize her but her own?
Women should police themselves so men don't have to and vice-versa. If we, to use your words, agreed to a code, and enforced the code amongst ourselves, when we came together, we'd treat each other better.
The good thing about all of this is black men and women are discussing relationships, good, bad, or indifferent. I hope we continue these types of dialogues, we might discover we actually like one another again.
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I HEART U TPOKW!!! : )
"being forced to work and deliberately and repeatedly making bad choices (then expecting sympathy) is another thing."
LMFAO!!! Now I am truly convinced you are a lunatic! So, let say, just for arguments sake that most women who stay home "deliberately and repeatedly make bad choices and then expect sympathy". So stay a home moms don't get a pass with you for fucking up but Tameka does? What the fuck do you call what Tameka did? It is a deliberate bad choice. And yet you have sympathy for her? GTFOH!! LMAO!
4.27
we might discover we actually like one another again. LOL..
@4:15
tameka has been "called out" enough, what people are doing is straight scrutinizing. this chick cannot catch a break. jealousy is the devil's favorite pet.
and yeah if you can't afford to stay home with your kids and you want to, why go looking for them? NO SYMPATHY from me, get your ass up and go to work like the rest of us and stop hatin on others cuz they have it better than you.
CRABFKINGMENTALITY
"it's like it would kill these heffas just to be a little bit supporting or understanding."
What happened to this theory when you commented the Solange post below? I guess you would consider yourself just another salty ass sister like the rest of us right? Hypocrite.
i'm starting to think that we're taking this a tad too personally. this is not a representation of black men and women. this is about an r&b singer whose wife flew to brazil to get plastic surgery after supposedly lying about how long ago she had a child. take yourselves out of it and breath.
"and yeah if you can't afford to stay home with your kids and you want to, why go looking for them? NO SYMPATHY from me, get your ass up and go to work like the rest of us and stop hatin on others cuz they have it better than you."
I am assuming you didn't read the question in my comment. My question is why do you have sympathy for a woman who deliberately puts herself in harms way vs. a stay-at-home mom who deliberately puts herself in a bad situation? They are women right? And you're all about supporting women no matter what dumb decision they make right? What's the difference between the two?
BTW, I do stay at home and I can afford it. I don't know of any woman who stays at home, but can't afford it. Things may be tight for them, but they can still afford it, but maybe that is just me. I also have had to work when my first child was born for a while so I have been there too.
"stop hatin on others cuz they have it better than you."
Who the hell is hatin on someone because they have it better? Clarify please.
"tameka has been "called out" enough, what people are doing is straight scrutinizing. this chick cannot catch a break. jealousy is the devil's favorite pet."
Ummm...Fuck that! She is married to a celebrity. If she isn't used to being scrutinized, she better learn quickly. As far as jealousy is concerned, that comment is played out, I am assuming you said that just to get people to shut up about her and I won't. What she did was dumb and selfish and she needs to reprioritize her life.
Anon fight! Anon fight! lol... yall are crazy.
health wise, chick took a risk... rather or not he knew or didnt know about it and all that is for us to sit here and play around with. As a mother, Im simply not cool at the idea of risking my life for something that is not needed when I have a child at home that runs up to me every evening when I get home like its the highlight of her day. JMO
"and yeah if you can't afford to stay home with your kids and you want to, why go looking for them? NO SYMPATHY from me, get your ass up and go to work like the rest of us"
Rephrase that question. I didn't catch what you were trying to say there. As far a getting up a going to work, I know how to handle my business, when and if I need to work, trust, I will be doing that. I don't need you to tell me that. I don't need your sympathy, I can handle what life throws me. I am attempting to see if you can clear up some of they hypocrisy in your statements.
You say women need to be understanding of each other and cut each other slack, but then you go on to say you have no sympathy for women who stay at home and have a hard time. I am using that as an example, but if you need another let me know. So why are you on here preaching at people to have understanding for ALL women and then you go on to say you have none for at home moms.
Mayne, I aint read through all this shit. But some yall need some new muhfuckin dick (Yes that's my answer to all life's problems)lol...
Dat ho Jill in particular just need a new nigga to cum on her fo'head! SPLAT! So dat shit could drip all down her muhfuckin nose bridge. Dats why the bitch so angry all the damn time. Old Dick Syndrome, dats what it be. Bitch need some new lovin. Bitch need some rekindled fuckin from a thug nigga who'll shove her ass out the bed when they done fuckin and tell her "bitch go microwave some noodles for a muhfucka! A nigga hungry."
I listened to that radio show when Ms.Tameka was about to spill the beans on Mr.Usher. I found it funny that after about a month they were dating. She knows the secret whatever it is. She's a thug.
"Mayne, I aint read through all this shit. But some yall need some new muhfuckin dick (Yes that's my answer to all life's problems)lol..."
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sidebar: yeah i got my little 3yr old in a private preschool and they are pretty good with her.. she will push kids off the "play structure" if they are bothering her but, other than that, she is a pretty good girl... they say she likes to keep to herself and read (look...lol) books all day long... so, ill take a nerdy kid anyday over these hott ass heffas running around here. her daddy already said she is gonna be a nun (every dad's dream)... uh no... i need grandkids... (but ill wait 25 years for that!).. lol good luck with your son! boys will be boys! okay... back to usher and tameka and the the Anon fights.. lol.
Jill, your comments about mothers were really messed up. So people who want children are crazy, right? Oh, and people who are not independently wealthy should be looked down upon if they want to spend time with their children, too huh? You want Black women to be more supportive and understanding--well shouldn't that start with you?
@Bee Gee co-sign. Hollywood, I understand where you're coming from, but I have to agree with the anon. We can't just blindly support someone in lockstep. That's what yt America always thinks about us anyway. We are individuals with independent judgement and powers of reason. We should use them.
Malika, you made some good points. It must be hard to read what an ugly conniving bitch much of the world thinks you are on a daily basis. She knew what she was getting into when she married him. Her priority should be her family. Her vanity almost killed her. Plus, it does not bode well for her to lie to her husband about something so large. What else has she deceived him about?
I have to give props to Prince for that scenario. It had me in tears!
aint nobody on here talking about how gay usher is???
bitch is a beard, DUH!!!!!!
Usher is gay
stories abound, yr gaydar is fucked.
@ Blue
You're a wild cowboy!! CTFU @ u
lmmfao @ blue!!!!
@ 8:01
Gee, thanx, but since I'm not privy to the so-called 'stories' [not to mention the fact that no one has given me a concrete reason for why Usher's sexuality is in question], I'ma just conclude that peeps are full-o-shit and don't know what the hell they're tawkin' 'bout!;)
if this makes it to 200 posts by morning than i KNOW yall are taking this too seriously.
Jonetta must be pissed about Tameka leaving Usher and the babies to go out of the country for cosmetic surgery. I can only imagine the dialogue between the three of them. Not nice.
Whatever Tameka has on ol Ush it must be EXPLOSIVE, cause her actions are not those of someone who gives a shit about what her husband thinks, or the consequences to their "marriage."
OFF TOPIC:
Well we knew it was just a matter of time. The photo of Ri post-beatdown has just been leaked.
Shit, meet fan.
If Chris Brown stays out of prison (let alone has a career) after this, it will be a miracle.
the pic isn't THAT bad. its bad. it sure as hell isn't good. but its not terrible. it looks like a tussling match, not a world class ass kicking. i could forgive a singer for this, but i doubt the rest of the world would be that forgiving.
^^Girl please^^
The pics don't look that bad??? I'll bet you she looked like a monster the next day after the bruising and swelling set in. I know this, because I have been knocked around by a man.
But back to the subject. Usher may not forgive Tameka for this mess. But she bought it on herself.
The look on his face says it all. What the fuck has this woman done this time?
Usher looks like Webster to me-only he's taller.
4:04, i agree. if he was cool with everything else, the look on his face says that if this isn't the end of the marriage, the end is pretty damned close.
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