Friday, November 27, 2009

In Case You Missed It: Beyonce's Thanksgiving Special


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Anonymous said...

i prefer to watch reruns of real house wives

Anonymous said...

I'm gone say this and leave the Bey subject alone. This DUMB broad is BORING, does not know SHIT about "art", has the nerve to pray in this footage "take away anything that is not like you God and give us peace" and then shake her STANK COOCHIE ALL ACROSS THE STAGE while sweating off all that damn make-up and weave, pretend she likes people by hugging her "fans" on camera and overall fucked up my thanks giving evening bowel movement.

Bitch is full of herself and needs to GO AWAY!

Anonymous said...

lmao @ 10:55

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't classify myself as a "hater", but this girl lies like a rug.

the whole thing felt contrived and fake.

Anonymous said...

That show was the biggest turkey this Thanksgiving.
Speaking of turkey - has anyone tried some Creole turkey gumbo?

Anonymous said...

all of it [felt staged] except her accent, which is/was as real as real can get.

"Ah DIE-rected dis piece" (or something to that effect).

(I actually wouldn't mind her accent if the rest of her didn't feel so disingenuous.)

Anonymous said...

No wonder there's so much hate for Bey...she's the BEST entertainer out right now hands down!!!

Anonymous said...

wooooowiieeeee! that was one hell of a performance. great energy.

Anonymous said...

@ 12:04

Okay! I see someone had a little to much to drink yesterday. The best entertainer out right now, please I'd rather see paint dry first before seeing her in concert.

Anonymous said...

She is a great entertainer, I don't understand why people hate her so much. Oh no, I know why...because she's successful. All celebrities are fake, it has always been that way. Trust me when I say she doesn't care that you hate her. She makes millions doing what she loves and never has to work a day in her life. No wonder people hate her so much.

Anonymous said...

Sure she has to work. She has to shake her monkey maker in order to get the money. I guess if someone disagrees that she is the greatest or about her craft they are a hater. So misunderstood and so overused.

Anonymous said...

That should be MONEY maker. But if it fits...

Anonymous said...

I take it I should be grateful she shared all of this she states we've never seen before, yet we have 10x over. Couldn't stand to show helping others or sharing on Thanksgiving. Uhnt uh. Oh no. It had to be ass, coochie popping, hair, and all about me.

Anonymous said...

lmfao@ 11:58!

"Ah dah-rected dis piece. Ah wraught all mah sowngs. Eeech sowng has uh meanin' in it."

I loved how she said she wrote DIL, like she's the genius behind it. And the fact that she said she had five hits.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:21

Oh please. That is the weakest thing that hateful people use now to back up their hateful mentality. "I'm not a hater just because I don't like her." No you're a hater because everytime there is a Beyonce post you rush to it to post some of the nastiest and most ridiculous comments about someone you don't even know. If you don't like her and you just say something like she just doesn't do it for you, then fine. But all these rude and nasty comments can only come from haters and hateful people.

And this website has always had some of the smartest posters, but it seems like all of a sudden the comments are getting even more ignorant. From the end of the world bs to the disrespectful comments regarding women. When I said she doesn't have to work a day in her life, I mean she won't have to work a 9 to 5 doing something she hates like you probably have to. When you are doing what you love, it isn't work. You keep talking about her sexual dancing, but Beyonce didn't invent it. She won't be the last either. Every big time person in the business except these teeny bop singers are sexual. Sex sells, don't blame the artist, blame the consumers. Negative people rarely ever acheive success, so they rather hate people who do. I'd rather go for mine than hate on folks I don't even know.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe for a minute that bey's record company didn't support her DIL album. I think this is one of her attempts to seem down to earth by creating a "struggle" story to add to her personal mythology. She's never said this before, and DIL came out years ago. If this story were true, you can believe that someone would have mentioned it- if not bey then her father or sister or someone in her camp, to brag about the success. I mean, it's a plausible story (i think DIL was weak, except for the singles), but ultimately not true.

Finally, DIL only had two hit songs ("crazy in love" and "baby boy"), and two moderately successful songs ("me myself and I" and "naughty girl"). Perhaps because beyonce didn't finish highschool, she thinks this adds up to five hit songs.

DIL the song was only release in the US and was nowhere near a "hit". Also, it was a DC song that beyonce co-opted for herself (just like with "check on it").

If I were in DC that alone would have pissed me off more than anything else- that bitch beyonce taking the best singles, convincing the rest of us they were no good then putting them on her solo albums and projects.

Whatever. Bottom Line: Bey only had two bona fide hits off of DIL, she probably lied when she said her record co didn't support her (highly anticipated solo debut) album, she DEFINITELY DIDN'T WRITE A DAMN THING ON THAT ALBUM (rich harrison infamously said she didn't write crazy in love- he did), and she's not at the AMA's because she can't hog the spotlight.

Anonymous said...

And another insightful post about haters, AGAIN, by Anon 1:34pm.

Anonymous said...

LOL yall can make all the dumb jokes you want about Beyonce, but she was smart enough to stack 80 mil last year. People kill me how they wn to call out her coochie popping, yet you have nothing to say about Madonna, Britney Spears, etc. Hell, Nicki Minaj can pose with her legs spread wide open and take a bunch of coochie shots but Beyonce can't grind on stage. Black folks always try to get self-righteous when they feel like it. If you want to get on Beyonce, then you should get on all these nasty and disrespectful rap songs out here too. Hell you should even get upset that Lil Wayne has 5 damn baby mommas. Yet all these dumb ass women still love him and wack ass dudes want to be like him. If you want to be righteous, then BE RIGHTEOUS!

Anonymous said...

@ 1:39

Yeah, too bad you didn't comprehend any of it. Bottom line, find something better to do with your time than worry about someone who is better off than you. You sound miserable. Thanks and good day.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:36

LOL did you really write an essay on that BS. You should use that energy and get a degree or build your own multi-million dollar empire. It is really sad that you care so much. If you don't like Beyonce, skip the posts. And I agree with Anon @ 1:34, you are a hater and care way too much. Stop being so bitter.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:43

Preach!

Anonymous said...

@1:47

Yeah how about YOU find something to do rather than worry about what others say about others, dumbass. I can talk shit if I want to. I don't care!

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:36...

Destiny's Child is over. The group broke up and everybody in the group is trying to do their own thing. They have moved on, so why don't you? Your level of hate for Beyonce isn't even funny like most, but actually kind of scary.

Anonymous said...

I love how people try to deflect people going in on this attention whore by bring up different issues.

Y'all slay me with that.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:43 huh??? have you been living in a dream world. if you took the time to stop hanging with your ghetto peeps you'd understand it's mostly street and hood people or white trash that dig these people. Madonna has been blasted over and over again especially during the late 80s through mid 90s. it was only after she settled had, and had a kid and stopped the sexcapades that the public started liking her again. just like you're allowed to like trash and claim somebody made 80 million, a dime of it that she'll never share with you, then others are allowed to have their opinions of her. the girl is transparent and fake. deal with it.

Anonymous said...

@1:55

Who said I was hating? I'm just pointing out the obvious. You sound like a "stan" that's so irritated by either "haters" or the people who simply call her out on her bs. Maybe people like YOU shouldn't be here if you can't handle the truth (or just differences of opinion).

~antisocial~ said...

ctfu @ some of the comments up in here

As for the hamtastical display that I only caught glimpses of while channel surfing last night: I know there were a helluva lot of peeps pissed the hell off because the tix for the Vegas shows cost a fuggin' grip! I give props where props are due but NOTHING I witnessed last night was worth the price of admission. The only difference between this and her usual puzzy poppin' antics is that people were subjected to her never-ending bullshit [e.g., 'praying' when she knows damn well her and Sasha don't serve God] & lies [read: what she said about her label & DIL] and I won't even get started on that bullshiz about her liking to write songs about empowering women. I also find it mighty interesting that when it was announced that her shows here would be taped for a dvd, NOTHING was said about them showing it on Thanksgiving...that is, until news broke about Jennifer Hudson and her Christmas special [which I'm sure will be in keeping with the holiday].

~antisocial~ said...

@ 1:57

The Beyucki stans/clit fleas/MWE paid bloggers have no choice but to try to divert attention away from this trollop's fuckery and doing such in the threads is a common tactic on DCR.

Anonymous said...

antisocial where have you been? I remember you from DCR! I stopped going there because Soulgirl left and the blog is completely out of control now.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:59

I said you are hating and you are. It is really simple folks. Don't like Beyonce, don't buy her shit and don't come to the posts regarding her. It's so simple a 5 year old can understand it.

I'm not a stan because I am a grown ass woman, but I like to see people do well in life. It actually makes all the hard work I put into my dream seem worth it some times. Believe it or not, there are lots of people like me who can be happy for others. You should try it.

And if this site is for bitter and miserable people like yourself, then no I shouldn't be here. Let me know. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

that's the thing about holidays, the STANS come out in full force like roaches in the dark.

Anonymous said...

"It took everything that I've been through to get me to this stage..."..... sista.... whatchu been through?.... The break up of destiny's child?.....that was perpetuated by your father....and trust...the other two chickadees have it a lot tougher than you right now.....YOU AIN'T NO SURVIVOR.....

I love the woman's talent but I take this ish for face value.... she is a pretty puppet that can sing and dance... now keep your mouth closed and just go out there and step and fetch.... that is all you are good for...face it...

Now the stans can sit down......no one is denying her talent...but please this ignorant excuse for a woman can only retire to be a trophy wife (which she will suck at because she loves attention)..... just accept it.... I have...

Anonymous said...

Antisocial,

believe it or not, everybody in the world that doesn't hate Beyonce isn't paid to be on blogs. some people just don't have to hate her. sprry if you find that hard to believe.

Fo REal?!?! said...

@1:34 and @1:43

Last time I checked this blog belongs to that Bitch, so if she doesn't have a problem with what's being said about ANY artist, then who are you?!?!

This is a blog, and for better or for worse there will be comments about celebs and folks that you don't agree with - but seriously, you can take your preachin' to another blog that gives a shit cuz I can guarantee that most here don't.

This is how we get down in this piece, no need to get offended, just tryin' to save you the energy and keystrokes in case you feel like goin' off on a tangent again. Real talk...

Anonymous said...

@ 2:04

And so do the haters who don't even have jobs. :)

~antisocial~ said...

@ 2:03

Since you're 'anon', I don't know who you are (lol!), but I've been around [just not posting on this blog]. And don't even get me started on DCR: it seems SoulGirl has gotten jacked for her shit and at the end of the day, she has no one to blame but herself.

Anonymous said...

2:04 please read the disclaimer, there is concreteloop, ybf, beyonceworld.net, necole bitchie and other beyonce stanning sites to go to. you sound brokenhearted, i can almost see the tears forming in your eyes. we go hard and keep it real in here, no sugarcoating. if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen!

Anonymous said...

@ 1:58

False!

You would be surprised who buys Lil Wayne's albums. There are men with college degrees buying Lil Wayne's album. Even white, educated, preppy, rich white kids/men. So please stop, you know good and damn well your argument is flawed. Hell, you probably bought his album too.

~antisocial~ said...

@ Fo Real

And the church said, AMEN!!

Anonymous said...

the first 2:04

Last time I checked, (I live in the United States and) I have the freedom of speech, so if there's something I don't like, I will speak on it. If you have a problem, then that's on you. I never spoke to you, I was speaking on the subject of Beyonce taking credit for her album/career when in fact all she has really done is possess a real talent (singing). So I feel sorry for you that you cannot overlook the fact that someone is speaking the truth, and that you are a "stan" and that YOU can't handle it. So you have a great day. And stop replying to me, I don't care anymore.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:08

I have been here since 07, thanks. I am not going anywhere and your little I hate Beyonce because I am miserable remarks won't make me go ANYWHERE! Try again.

Anonymous said...

Beyonce is the queen BITCHES!

AMEN!

Anonymous said...

PREACH! @ Fo Real

Anonymous said...

fO'rEAL

Please I can talk about anything I damn near please! Got it, thanks! You can't stop me from coming here and ain't no bitch on this site tough enough to run me away from it. I am grown.

Don't like what I say? Then scroll right past it.

Anonymous said...

Hell I lve Beyonce and I will keep coming to this site. This site is not restricted to Beyonce haters. You bitches sound pathetic.

Anonymous said...

*love

~antisocial~ said...

@ the 2nd 2:11

She shole is. Let's review exactly what she's the queen of, shall we?

~ puzzy poppin'
~ yodelin'
~ lyin'
~ thievery
~ mush mouths

Y'all jump right in and feel free to add to the list! ;)

Anonymous said...

2:04

And I have freedom of speech too. If you want to bitter, then by all means go ahead. No one is stopping you. Calling me a stan won't change the fact that you are probably broke and miserable.

Anonymous said...

antisocial

and your dumb ass still managed to spend money to see her too. FAIL.

Anonymous said...

question is does beyonce love you?

Anonymous said...

~tranny make up
~trashy clothes
~trashy music
~stealing music
~stealing lyrics
~stealing yaki/horse hair

Anonymous said...

question do you know beyonce personally to hate her so much?

Anonymous said...

2:19

clearly, you are broke, miserable and jobless, cuz you are up here riding Beyaki's clit stanning for her like a mofo and bitching about how people that don't like her a sorry asses

Anonymous said...

@ 2:20

LOL! Yep, she just added to Beyonce's bank account. I am sure she appreciates that.

2nd 2:20

All that and she is still WEALTHY while you are broke. Wow.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:23

Nope, I am just on vacation for the holidays. And I don't have a job, I actually own a business that is pretty lucrative actually. I guess that's why I don't hate Beyonce. Oh well. Nice try though.

~antisocial~ said...

@ 2;20

You get a resounding BOO for not knowing WTF you're talking about.

@ 2:21

lol @ your list, which brought to mind the all important: WIG CRYPT!! =D

Anonymous said...

^

Oh and that's for the broke person that posted the first 2:23 comment

Anonymous said...

2:21 is about to cry.

Anonymous said...

Antisocial,

You're right. You didn't buy tickets. I just scanned through your meaningless comment. My bad, well you prob couldn't afford the tickets anyway. Why watch the video if she sucks so much? I wouldn't have wasted my time if I hated Beyonce so much.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:25

Is that the best you got? Seriously, please try harder. Fail!

Fo' Real?!? said...

ahhhh...2:14 got offended anyways...ahhhhh

It's all good, no hard feelings. Just a one more piece of advice tho - prepared to get your ass tore if you continue to be sensitive..it's all about opinions, baby...love 'em or hate 'em.

I'm out ya'll - have a good weekend!

Anonymous said...

yall got some issues up in here. These comments are hilarious! lol.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:25

Nice excuse, bitch.

Anonymous said...

Lawd, why do Beyonce posts always end up in arguments? For the people that like her, cool. Those who don't, that's cool too. But it's kind of wack to see mofos going back and forth for this bullshit. Regardless, she got more money than me and 99% of the people on this site. Stans and haters, or those that don't like her can't change that. So what's the point?

~antisocial~ said...

@ 2:28

Reading is fundamental and your lack of comprehension skills is something I'm sure your idol would be proud of!! *thumbs up*

@ 2:29

Same to you!! :)

Anonymous said...

@ 2:31

Thanks bitch. Need a job?

Anonymous said...

Antisocial

Ok I am bored with you now. That was boring, I expected better. I like most people tend to scan through long ass essays about nothing. Sorry.

Anyway, I'm with that Fo'Real bitch, i'm out too! This was fun, but now it is wack.

Enjoy your weekend people! Peace.

Anonymous said...

Beyowolf is a devil worshipper...she looked possessed last night.

Endya said...

Gumbo Queen needs to stick to puzzy poppin' and not speaking. And cosign w/ 1:36PM, she knows damn well she didn't write a lick on that Dangerous album, or any of those DC tracks. The only this trick can do well is yodel, pop her coochie, whip her Yaki tracks, and have a severe team that will get her any writing/producing credit she wants (in which in time, that shit will get old anyway).

Anonymous said...

@ 2:32

I agree. People just really love or hate this chick. Blogger lover her though because of these comments that they get for Beyonce posts. Honestly, I like to see the stans and the haters argue. Both are so passionate. Lol.

Anonymous said...

LOL...oh here we go. I love yall illuminati folks. Really, I do.

Anonymous said...

@2:32

Actually yes tramp. I'm graduating next month and will be looking.

Anonymous said...

I will generously give credit where credit's due. The girl is indeed an ambitious, hardworking, talented (she can put on one helluva performance) individual. For that, I have been a fan (I even bought what turned out to be that lukewarm I AM sh!t).

HOWEVER, I've come to recognize that there's just some shear bullshyte that surrounds her that I do not approve of. Her Christian good girl street walker steez; her pretense around being a songwriter and an "artist"; her being "inspired" by other artists (that is, jacking whatever idea she can so she can supposedly seem so fresh); her "empowering" women by both popping her stuff half-naked across a stage and on a video and then bashing men, while still presenting herself as both coquettish and demure; her grasping at fame and attention and "icon status" like she's fighting for her last breath.

All that crap irks me to no end.

Anonymous said...

best I got? What you think this is? a STANoff? Solange is that you?

anyway moving right along
beyonce:
-trashy stage clothes
-uneducated
-overated singer
-trashy videos
-claims ownership for songs she edits and tweeks
-subtle nose surgery,breast surgery,liposuction
-embarrassing dictation
-release and re-release of poor albums year after year.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:38

LOL-Stop lying. You know your dumb ass isn't smart enough to be in college. I mean seriously, usually college educated people don't have to resort to name calling. Good luck though finding a job with your impressive vocabulary.

~antisocial~ said...

^^Yep yep! Keep 'em comin'!! lol

Anonymous said...

2:40

Boo. Now it's not even funny anymore. I don't even like the bitch like that but that shit wasn't even funny. It was better the first time around.

2:39

I feel you 100%!

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:45

I agree completely. I like to see people rip Beyonce apart, but some of these folks are kind of obsessive with it. This has become a snoozefest rather fast.

That Nigga Mike said...

Anon 2:32

I feel you, it usually is entertaining. I think most people argue over Beyonce because they are bored as hell and trying to get through the work day. But some people are obesessive with their stanning and hating, and it is sad as hell. If you love her then ok. Hate or ok. But arguing and posting 7-30 times about someone you claim you don't like is dumb. And arguing with folks who don't like her is dumb too. I rather people be passionate about shit that matters. That's just me though.

AnonMoron67 said...

Wow. Y'all going hard up in here.

I will just say: I AM.....PASSING ON THIS ONE.

~antisocial~ said...

^^lmao

Anonymous said...

@2:43

Well, at least I was honest about being in college and graduating and looking for a job, rather making up a laughable excuse about having an alleged "lucrative" company in this recession, yet have the time to come to RWS and get all mad about people who don't like the Creole Yaki Princess Beyonce.

Have a good day/weekend cunt.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:56

LOL me too! Can we get a new post Bitch, this one is tired!

Anonymous said...

once again the stans have reading comprehension issues. who said anything about funny? and most importantly where are the RIHANNA STANS WHEN YOU NEED THEM?!?! beyonce is overrated like all mediocare musicians of our day and the majority of people agree,except the luney fanatics who get all emotional and bent out of shape about other's opinions.

Anonymous said...

@ That Nigga Mike and AnonMoron67

Amen to that! These comments are wack as hell. I so need a new post, my job is boring.

Anonymous said...

@ 3:01

Umm yeah, everybody who didn't find your comments funny isn't a stan. I think a lot of people are just saying that this has gotten old, why the hell are you being so defensive? At this point, you are just as bad as the stans. Chill out homie. We all need a new post.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:59

If you were really smart, you would know that the media will have dummies like you believing everything. Every company isn't struggling. Do your research.


But if thinking I have to lie makes you feel better for yourself, I am happy that I am able to help. Good luck on those student loans.

Anonymous said...

^
My apologies, that is for 2:59, the fake college student

Anonymous said...

Umm yeah projecting much 3:04, if you were really chillin out, you would have ignored my comment, you all up in here like the rest of us. stans i tell ya. any way i'm out.

Anonymous said...

^
3:09

Nigga I'm bored at work, are you slow??!!! Atop crying because people said your little joke wasn't funny. You big cry baby...damn.

Anonymous said...

@ 3:09

Nigga, I'm bored at work!! Are you slow?!! Take you crybaby ass somewhere...damn. You just mad because your little joke was lame.

Anonymous said...

Sorry for the doble post

The computer at work here sucks.

Anonymous said...

I thought there was a site for the Beyonce haters?

Anonymous said...

@3:06

You just don't get it. Wow, that's sad. But yes, thank you for the comment, I will be vigorously looking for employment and paying off my student loans on time.

Anonymous said...

Can we get a new post please!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

@ 3:29

At the end of the day, it's all cool seriously. You don't know me and I don't know you. You don't know what I own, you only want to believe you do. And I can say you aren't in school, and you probably are. Neither one of us really knows. But on a serious note, I just want you to know that the Media has an agenda, and that there are plenty businesses/ceo's still doing well. You'd be surprised about what the wealthy are really up to and I am not talking about celebrities either. Everybody isn't struggling. Trust me. Don't put all your trust in the media/government. If you do, you will never have anything.

But I wish you well (seriously) with your education and have a great weekend. Peace.

NubianGoddez said...

CTFU 2 this Beyawnceeee post, damn these rabid ass stans must get paid good money to go blog sites and try to deflect from this mediocre tranny. I will give it to her she's a consumate performer and quite frankly is good at what she does. but ya'll mf rabid ass stans have not a clue to what a real *artist* actually is, with delusional folks like Kanygay, beyowlcee, Riyawna, Mileyareyouf*ckingserious, Britneyspearusplease and the countless other drones foisted on the public under the illusion of talented *artist* really need to listen to John Coltrane, Myles Davis, Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, hell even today's Sade, Anita Baker, Regina Bell, Gladys Knight, Prince (composer, playes various instruments)and a few others. this is real talent and real artist!!! I'm not even going to go in on Bey, as the sane folks already said what I would have said about that fuckery finest thanksgiving *special* smh @ these no life having stans.

Anonymous said...

^

Good point. I have more oldies on my Ipod than I do the new stuff. But the younger kids today love this new stuff. Artists are trying to keep up with you and unfortunatley those who are very talented won't do well. Even Lady GaGa morphed so she could sell. I saw her perform before all the bs and she was really talented. I can't recognze her now. But I can't knock artists for trying to eat.

But what you forgot to mention is that some of these people that don't like Beyonce don't have lives either. Someone created a hate on beyonce website...that is a bit extreme. And these days, stans aren't the only ones that don't have lives clearly.

Beyonce has become a bit too sexual for my taste, but the young kids are eating it up. Rihanna sucks, but her fane base (of kids) os solid. Music has really changed.

Anonymous said...

^

Please forgive my spelling errors. I hope there will be a new post before I get off work, please Bitch?

Anonymous said...

Damn - where did all of the bootlicking, bottomfeeding Bey stans come from all of a sudden?

Anonymous said...

Too much of this Camel's mare already!

Bee Gee said...

ENOUGH!!! Ya'll be quite while momma prays for the food.

Oh mah bad, that was yesterday. Anyway, who had a good thanksgivin'? -and- I betchu the banana puddin' you had wasn't as bomb as BeeGee's grandmommas banana puddin'.

I'm gone before all this talk about Beyawnce puts a nigga on 'sleepy'.

Anonymous said...

banan puddin' sucks like beyawnce. hot apple pie with a nice cold scoop of vanilla ice cream on top is more like bee gee.

Anonymous said...

Maybe her music exec got confused, he meant this album was wack, and only had one hit which was single ladies so his prediction was right, can someone explain what was the purpose of them showing this video, what was new even her back up dancer looked pissed at some points, I also got the impression her staff her treated ike slaves who comes and work right through BEYONCE TRYING TO APPEAR HUMBLE, SHE PISSED ME OFF WHEN SHE GOT ONE OF HER BACKING DANCERS TO DO HEAD SHOTS OF HER WHILE SHE SAT THERE LIKE A LOG SIPPING ALCOHOL LOL at Beyonce asking why the candles were so white ,I'm sorry this was just another attempt at Beyonce to shove this shit of an album down people throats as if the Turkey wasnt dry enough,we are bombarded with dry windswept Beyonce to boot,SERVES ME RIGHT FOR WATCHING, HOPING I WOULD SEE SOMETHING NEW, DISGUSTED WITH MYSELF... NEED TO SELF CLEANSE WHOLE SHOW WAS FAKE AND PREDICTABLE

Hello Kitty said...

I love Beyonce! She brings it, and is a beautiful person!

Anonymous said...

I totally forgot all about Beyonce's so-called Thanksgiving special, but I'll be sure not to miss JENNIFER HUDSON'S CHRISTMAS SPECIAL!!!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting this! I missed it. I love Bey!

Anonymous said...

BEYONCE'S STANKSGIVING DAY SPECIAL. IF IT WAS A CHRISTMAS SPECIAL, BEYONCE WOULD BE GRINDING ON THE TREE.

Anonymous said...

Aww her and Jay are so cute!

Anonymous said...

okay, let me break it down for all y'all. B was trying to immulate MJ with this one. i thought I was going to see something different..but no. She did the same routines as usual. I do not hate her but I have my opinion. I feel she is a copy cat.
Sure she is RICH and work hard on her JOB. why not? I can not say she is telented, she is just fortunate to be able to express her ART. A lot of women can shake Azz. nothing NEW!! I think most of us know real talent and true ART, that is why most people say things about her. No, we should not play down on our own....but our own should be original. She is not! Shikira/JLo and bit of Tiny is what she copies. Pay attention to her style. I think she need to put on some clothes but when you have a young body you tend to express it and i can deal with that. I look for better ART in an Artist. A lot of our Artist have sold themselves to the devil for $$$ any way. This is the way of the world. let her do her thing...soon to play out. I am not a hater--just like good ART. Sade/Whitney/janet/MJ/glady's/jenifer H/ got their own styles

Anonymous said...

she cant dance< she shakes her ass and hips....thats all

Anonymous said...

@ 8:24 PM, please get some eyeglasses already. She looks OK, but there isn't a damn thing cute about her husband.

Anonymous said...

a bitch is up in here cryin over bey, well gtfoh... and kiss my ass!

malika the sexy cynic said...

wow. i'm hating all of these anon posts, it gets kind of confusing when you read. i'm also kind of ticked that the trolls have kept some people from signing in when they're posting.
anyway, i see both sides of the coin on beyonce. i'm tired as hell of her and yes, she has lied in the past. and let's be real, DIL was one of the most anticipated and pushed albums the year it came out. she pretends to be so sweet and innocent, but you can't have the level of success that she's had without some major backstabbing and selling of one's soul. ask mj and puffy. her label put major bucks into that album and damned if they weren't going to recoup on that.
but at the same time, i give props. she's pretty, i'd kill for her body, she can dance her ass off and the girl can SANG. and its not easy to dance your ass off night after night as you travel all over the country.
so can we just agree to disagree on this one?

malika the sexy cynic said...

ok, i also have to add that if the label REALLY didn't think she had a single hit on DIL, they wouldn't have let her release it. before folks drop an album for a major company, there is still a level of quality control involved, hense usher's album being pushed back, especially when there's as much money involved. a singer of beyonce's caliber is going to get a lot of money to put forth the best album ever. too much is at stake for them to be playing. i still think she's okay, but she was talking out of her butt on that one.

Anonymous said...

okay,she wiggle wiggles and drop it like it's HOT!
shake it and that is what you call dancing. She is young and most young people can move fast like that. I can do it at my age..can't you? Sorry if you can not. What are we so facinated about. You act as if she is the first black female exist that can move. Remember Janet and she can work it out too even at her age. STOP This!! no more silly blogs for me. this is crazy, why will even GAD.
our focus is on the wrong things,we must be some bored Americans now days. I need to check me out too. that is why they called the computer---the beast!!

Anonymous said...

That's why I come to this site, most people that post here are not STANS. Beyonce and her Husband are nothing special and thats obvious to folks with their eyes open. They are part of the problem vice part of the solution. Some people kill me looking at the amount of zeros in a bank account or looking at how many lost souls follow someone and use that to measure success. Wake up people, there are only two things that you can take from here when you die and they are the good (true unbiased good) that you did while you were here and the quality of the seeds that leave here to carry your name and teachings to further pass on. Plus entertainment started out as and has always been the job of a slave and continues to be the job of slaves believe it or not, and when they get tired of who is in now..........OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!

Str8 No-Chaser

Anonymous said...

I agree *:24

Bey and Jay are so cute together. I am happy for their success. Can't focus on the negative or negative people. Ignore them and do you! That's what I do...

Go Bey! Oh yeah...love you Bitch and happy holidays!

Anonymous said...

I mean 8:24 anon!

Don said...

Beyonce is the best of the best. No more games, no more wanna B's...The One has arrived and it's beyond my understanding why some people hate on an absolutely fantastic performer.

I guess it all goes back to people wanting to see another fail, instead of put the game on lock. It's really sad. I am not asking anyone to STAN her, but damn, give her props.

Beyonce is that B*tch.

Anonymous said...

beyonce is overhyped and overated, NEXT.

Anonymous said...

^

Pretty much. LOL at everytime someone said something positive about Bey, minutes lates someone posted something hateful. I guess the haters are just as bad as the stans now. Hilarity.

Anyways, glad I found this because I missed half of it on Thanksgiving. Props to her success, Jay as well.

I love it. go Bey.

Anonymous said...

Oh and my bad. I def. was not cosigning with 8:51.

I agree with Don completely.

Anonymous said...

The proof is in this post. No other artists can generate well over 100 comments on this site. Beyonce does it easily. Her stans are scary and her haters are just as bad (actually worse). She is doing something right to have folks this passionate. If anything, I will give her props for that. She keeps the blogs interesting.

Anonymous said...

two people arguing back and forth on a dull black friday to produce a majority of one hundred plus comments is not proof. proof is her album sales declining. white blogs really ripped her a new one after that video phone debacle, and when when white folks start getting in on you, it means your time is up.

the girl is one pole dance away from being a stripper. and her voice. oh my goodness. her voice is not beautiful at all. she sings slightly better than mary and keisha. beautiful voices are those like susan boyle, old whitney, old mariah,etc....etc... people can't even discern the sound of music anymore because we've been so bombarded with mediocarness that is beyonce.

Bee Gee said...

I don't hate Beyonce at all. It's simple:

Over-commercialized artists BORE THE SHIT OUTTA NIGGAS LIKE ME.

Artists that turn into media machines that have to be on every magazine cover and perform played out songs at every awards show or major event BORE THE SHIT OUTTA NIGGAS LIKE ME.

Artists that swagjack from everybody and everything around them until you have to question whether anything at all is authentic about them BORE THE SHIT OUTTA NIGGAS LIKE ME.

Artists that claim to be so real, so elegant, so innocent, yet come of fake as fuck whenever their off stage and out of "character", pop coochie at every turn and on every song, have shady in their corner, and are forced down our throats by the industry BORE THE SHIT OUTTA NIGGAS LIKE ME.

You call it how you see it and to each his own, but Beyonce BORES THE SHIT OUTTA ME.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:17

The fact that you are still leaving comments on Saturday about Beyonce (and long ones at that) still proves the point. Sorry.

Anonymous said...

It is not illegal to hate Beyonce. Haters, keep on hating.

Anonymous said...

@9:21

something a STAN would say. carry on

Anonymous said...

bee gee,you know beyonce fanatics can't handle the truth.

Anonymous said...

if boring equals wealth, I will be boring any day! lol I ain't mad at artists milking the game. Make the money Bey!

Anonymous said...

^don't forget the blonde wigs. you gotta slap on a blonde wig and red lipstick to get the full effect of her wealth.

Anonymous said...

"I guess it all goes back to people wanting to see another fail, instead of put the game on lock. It's really sad. I am not asking anyone to STAN her, but damn, give her props."

^^^^
I personally don't want to see her fail. I don't want to see anyone fail. But there is a such thing as overexposure, and like someone else said, having a celeb in every magazine, performing the same tired songs and these lame award shows, can be too much. I don't want to see her fail. I want her to GO SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE and have babies, disappear for a year or two (or longer), and then come back as she would ultimately choose to. I believe who oversaturate their careers and too much at one time can burn their careers out. Just look at JLo (NKA Lola smh). She was the hottest thing out like wireless internet service. Now she's burned out, and looking desperate for relevancy again, trying to keep up, and just plain old out of place.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:40

Hell yeah! Go Bey!

Anonymous said...

@ 9:29

Oh I see, when haters like yourself run out of things to say you just call the other poster who outsmarted you a stan. As these comments keep rolling in, it only proves my point further. Go Bey, 139+ comments and rolling. What a bad bitch.

Anonymous said...

Her success or failure are not the alpha or the omega.

Bee Gee said...

Beyonce's a polarizing figure in the entertainment industry. She's probably got as many detractors as she does promoters. But that's my whole point. While a lot of people are big fans of her "brand", a lot of people don't think she's a brand at all.

This is something you don't find with true musical superstars. Michael Jackson didn't have hordes of people that hated him. Neither did the Rolling Stones. Madonna had some, but if anything, she was polarizing because she was edgy, not overexposed and redundant. How about the Beatles, did they have legions of people who hated them? Nah. Not even Elvis did. Tina Turner, Garth Brooks, Bob Marley, Aretha Franklin?

These are some of the most popular artists ever, but none of em except for Madonna was nearly as polarizing as Beyonce.

So of course the mention of Bey is gonna generate comments, but that's not something to brag about. Because in most commentaries you'll find that for every person bigging Beyonce up, somebody else is airing her out.

She's immensely popular in a period of seriously watered down talent. It's not to detract from her, but there's just not many capable performers in R&B or Pop Music these days. The shit is sad. Bey's machine has taken advantage of this and put shoved this broad down everyone's throats.

I don't hate her at all. Just tired of her. Beyonce is like:

- A monotone voice
- That song that you are sick of hearing on the radio
- That TV commercial that you wish would be snatched off the fuckin air just to get a break from it, for a minute even.
- That nigga that claims to be kickin original freestyles off the top of his dome, but when he rhymes, you KNOW FOR A FACT you heard all that shit somewhere before.

So whatever Bey fans. Ya'll go ahead and be excited about Bey posts that generate 130 comments. Just know that 65% of em are negative.

Me, I'll opt for the Jennifer Hudson post that's only 40 comments, but 80% of em positive. I give Bey props for lockin' the game up, even though the game contains almost no talent in '09. I'm just tired of false niggas starin' at me from every magazine cover and being forced on me through every media outlet imaginable.

She wasn't boring at first, no way. But now she's as boring as sex with a female that has no idea of how to ride dick.

Get off me.

Anonymous said...

Tiger's domestic problems are way more exciting than Beyonce.

Anonymous said...

lol @ beegee.

and

yes Tiger's post is way more exciting.

Anonymous said...

Tiger's post is better, and Beyonce is still generating comments.

Go Bey!

Anonymous said...

Everybody please stop commenting on this bullshit, the stans are just trying to irritate yall. Don't fall for the bait.

Come to the Tiger post, the conversation is actually more interesting.

ANON1 said...

Bee Gee said:
She wasn't boring at first, no way. But now she's as boring as sex with a female that has no idea of how to ride dick.

Get off me.


*screaming* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! For shame! LMAO

*going to make a turkey hotshot*

10:19 AM

Bee Gee said...

ANON1

lmao

Anonymous said...

Still love Bey!

Anonymous said...

Cosign w/ Bee Gee. You broke it down, that was very well said. Those are my exact thoughts about this chick.

Anonymous said...

Yawn! If Beyonce went after her husband's Maybach windows with a golf club her ass would still be boring.

Anonymous said...

@ Bee Gee
If BeYAWNce was coochie poppin' in your face you KNOW you'd have those toes in the air. Or hit it from the back if her breath was too fierce.

Anonymous said...

Can this female please get a severe case of that Janet Jackson vertigo?

Anonymous said...

so we're going for 200 posts?

Anonymous said...

Or to pose the question - which side gets the last word? That might be 250+ comments.

Anonymous said...

I see the comments are still coming in at 2pm on a Saturday. Lol...yeah go Bey. If people hate her this much, she is doing something right. Beyonce should worry if she loses this effect on people.

Bee Gee said...

@ 1:45 - Yeh and? (lol) I'd hit it harder than J...ulius, ha.

@ 2:40 - Yes we're all so "affected" by Beyonce. C'mon with the delusional spin. Wait a minute. Did Bey hire you to count the comments and report back to her???

Anonymous said...

Oh yes Bee Gee,

All people who like Beyonce are paid to do so. You come off smarter in the other posts.

Again, I don't see anyone else racking in the comments. And people like you who don't like her and deem her boring continue to post long essays about her. Keep em coming. As long as people stay this passionate, she will stay successful. Keep making her rich honey. Now when people stop talking, then she has something to worry about.

Anonymous said...

I told yall to stop arguing with these crack head ass stans. Stop falling for the bait.

There will never be a winner here because people like me will still hate beyonce and the crackhead stans will keep kissing her ass. So why argue about this any further and stroke the broad's ego? Fuck it, let's move on please.

Anonymous said...

LOL @ crackhead ass stans! Hilarity.

Anonymous said...

All the cyber butt kissing in the world still won't get these "Beyonce apologists" on her Christmas list. They just don't get it, but they really need to.

Bee Gee said...

2:59 - You seem to need some dick, momma. Calm you down a bit. You takin' this way too serious. I come in peace and just, so relax. By the way, you seem kinda pshychotic on this beyonce comment shit. Like when you logged into 10 different blogs at the same time, tallying up comments. Believe me, I'm not here to argue about Beyonce, she just isn't interesting enough. If rubbin' ya pussy to Beyonce comment numbers is ya thing then go head. I'm gone.

Anonymous said...

Usually really unintelligent men seem to think that dick is the answer to every woman's "problem." Too bad that's all you have to offer Bee Gee.

Anonymous said...

If any post should be approaching 200 comments it should probably be the one with Tiger and Elin, and not one with this remixed, recycled, and rehashed fake broad.

BeyIsTheShit said...

It's real interesting how haters can go hard on Bey and be obsessive it's cool, but when the fans do the same we need to chill out. Yall take the hating to a whole new level, so why can't the fans do it too?

@ 2:59

I agree, keep those hating ass comments coming.

Anonymous said...

@2:59 why do you state (in an essay since you call out the haters for writing them) why you love (or tolerate) Beyaki so much. Please? I really want to read some statistics, facts, and your honest opinion.

Anonymous said...

@ 3:25

At the rate it's going, it might. It's almost at 100. I hope it outnumbers this tired ass post.

Anonymous said...

What was so special about her bloody Thanksgiving special?

Anonymous said...

wouldnt say tuning this bitch out and forgetting she exists - missin

THE REAL FEDUP..... said...

HEY ANTISOCIAL...IT'S ME FEDUP.

HOW YOU DOING???LOL. I agree with you...DCR is going down the drain ever since soulgirl done a hiatus!

THE REAL FEDUP..... said...

@Bee Gee

AMEN ON YOUR POST! YOU SPOKE THE DAM TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN I GET AN AMEN ONE MORE TIME PEOPLE! LMAO!

THE REAL FEDUP..... said...

Well this is the first time I been on this blog. I must say it is funny as hell on here to read both sides. Personally I feel Beyonce needs a break and away from the spotlight for 3 years or so and come back reinvented. New look,more maturity, and get a real life outside the enertainment business. She just too over exposed now people are tired of her and she do not know when to sit her ass down. I miss the old Beyonce back in the day. She sold herself out for fame and money now. All she is now is a one trick phony show...nothing new same shit different tiolet!

Anonymous said...

She could have at least had herself videotaped giving away a turkey or fixing a plate for a less fortunate person. Some Thanksgiving Day special. This chick somehow manages to make everything about her lame ass. What's next? Is she going to turn into Sasha Kringle for Christmas?

THE REAL FEDUP..... said...

@518

I agree....where was the THANKSGIVING MOMENT HERE????????????????????????????????????????????

NONE!

NO giving away a turkey, visiting homeless shelters, cooking for her family, giving thanks nothing...but her I AM... GONNA SHOVE THIS TOUR DOWN YOUR THROATS TIL YOU CHOKE ON IT! I did not watch that mess on Thanksgiving. I spent time with family like majority of folks did. I thought it was just me who felt the same thing how is this a thanksgiving speical??

Anonymous said...

I agree with the poster @ 3:24. When ignorant, unintelligent men such as BeeGee offer up "dick" as their solution to problems, its obvious they have nothing else to offer to society other than that. Read a book.

Anonymous said...

You know I had an epiphany today.
I really feel that people with ‘talent’ can actually keep it if it isn’t doing any good to society at large.

I hate to burst the stans bubble, Beyonce is not good for society at large, as what does she consistently promote…what is her message.

Either she comes with an 18+ label or she can keep her ‘talent’. I am so sick of this greedy, uneducated, WEAVED, low self esteem having blank slate being propped up as the ‘IT’ girl. Our children deserve so much more to look up.

Beyonce, either get a real message that is consistently POSITIVE or go home and that goes to ALL OF THEM, either use your talent to UPLIFT the people or F OFF.

Anonymous said...

BEYONCE IS A TRUE DEFINITION OF A SLAVE, OVER WORKED, SHE LOOKS LIKE A CLOWN, I CAN'T BARE TO WATCH THIS MADNESS. SO ON THANKSGIVING DAY I HAVE TO EAT TURKEY, AND WATCH ONE. I MEAN POPPING COOCHIE ON TV WITH BOOTY SHORTS ON THANKSGIVING. THE WORLD IS GOING TO HELL, YAHWEH COMING FOR HIS DISCIPLES AND THE SLAVES WILL STAY CAUSE THE SLAVE-SHIP FOR THE DEVIL HAS ARRIVED.. BEYONCE ITS THE #1 SLAVE.. HER SHORTS CUT MORE INTO HER COOCHIE, SHE MAKES ME SICK WITH HER BRAINWASHING OF PPL BY HER MUSIC. SHE GOT THE GAY COMMUNITY OBSESSED WITH HER. ONCE THEY REALIZE SHE JUST USED THEM, THERES NO GAY COUSIN. SHE WILL BE AS WASHED UP AS RIHANNA.

BAPS BEYONCE YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON CHECKING FOR YOU, GAY-Z DON'T EVEN LIKE YOU, NOR SOLANGE.. TAKE TIME TO REFLECT ON WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND CREATED. ALL THAT "POWER" AND POWERLESS TO THE DEMON SPIRIT POSSESSING YOU KNOW, SASHA FIERCE, YOU WENT FROM HATING HER, TO BEING HER. MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES AINT HEALTHY

BAPS

BAPS

Anonymous said...

I think I love BAPS!!!

Str8 No-Chaser

Anonymous said...

how come the thanksgiving special isn't posted on bossip?

Anonymous said...

I'm so sick of this overrated sacred cow.

Bee Gee said...

3:24 & 6:09

No offense, but I prefer to talk to hoz like hoz and women like women. So hoz... the suggestion still stands. And what do I need a book for when I'm readin' you yardbirds LIKE A BOOK? Beat it.

Anonymous said...

Tiger's golf clubs are more interesting than Beyoce.

Anonymous said...

STR8 NO-CHASER, ITS ALL LOVE, ALL DAY!!!!!! NO MATTER IF I RANT, I'M SPEAKING FROM MY HEART AND REAL SHIT, THANKS FOR APPRECIATING THE REAL.. ;)

Anonymous said...

BAPS^^^

Anonymous said...

^^^^^just like behoey & yourself!!!! hell no i didn't see it!!!! but she only generated 5mill viewers not bad yet still not good & at the same time still recieving bad reviews from blogs and critics.and by the way MWE PAID BLOGGERS AND/OR SOLANGE AND FAM she looked like the fuckin joker now she look even more like YOUR MOMMY,!!! MWUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

can someone tell me where i may find reviews from blogs and critics? and why do you guys think she has low self esteem? i think she does as well but i'd like to hear you guys side.
thanks

Anonymous said...

@ BAPS: Dont worry about the rants, you have to say what you mean and mean what you say. Its a lot of crazy shit going on and too many of us are not taking it serious. Its all layed out for us to see if we open our eyes. I guess the saying is true, we can always stumble upon the truth but it dosnt matter because we will always get up and leave it right there. Anyway, keep putting the info out because some of us appreciate. I also found out some info on some of this stuff. If you want to know what I have, I will post it from my PC.


Str8 No-Chaser

Anonymous said...

STR8 NO-CHASER, THANKS AGAIN, ALSO I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU POST WHATEVER YOU HAVE, I WILL READ, WATCH ANYTHING GIVING ME KNOWLEDGE, AND AN EVEN CLEARER UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORKINGS OF EVIL. I KNOW HOW GOD WORK, WE LIVING PROOF. :)

Anonymous said...

@STR8 NO CHASER, AND I COULDN'T PUT IT BETTER, ITS LIKE FOLKS RUN FROM THE TRUTH, YOU RIGHT SO MUCH CRAZINESS I ONLY LOOK UP AND AHEAD. IT'S LIKE FOLKS HATE THE TRUTH, AND LOVE THE LIES. SOMETIMES I SET AT WORK LISTENING TO SOME OF THE CONVO'S WHEN WE HAVE DOWN TIME, IM LIKE FOLKS ARE LOST, CONSUMED WITH THE WRONG THINGS. I KEEP A LOW PROFILE, THE DEVIL AINT A LIAR, BUT GOD THE TRUTH.

BAPS

Anonymous said...

god you guys want to see the craziness thats going on at youtube under beyonces thanksgiving show! what a war!

Anonymous said...

Oh so close to 200 comments. I thought it would have been close to 250 comments by midnight yesterday.

Anonymous said...

@ BAPS: Check this link there is a 1 hour 50 minute free video, so if you get time check it out. Its about the Bohenian Grove. Sit everyone should see this.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/bohemian_grove_exposed.htm


Str8 No-Chaser

Anonymous said...

Bee Gee,

And I prefer to talk to ignorant niggas like IGNORANT NIGGAS. Yes, you do need to pick up a book because your ignorance is a disgrace to the black men who can actually have a debate without offering their penis because a woman (Yes Woman) has outsmarted them.

Losers like you always call women who are smarter BITCHES and HOES because they lack the intelligence to prove their point. Sorry Bee Gee, you lose. I pray yo don't have any kids to pass on the ignorance.

Anonymous said...

*you

Anonymous said...

my apologies *your...I am sleepy as hell.

Anonymous said...

I love Beyonce (I guess that makes me a stan?), but I give propers to anon at 5:30, BAPS, and 7:07, Str8 No Chaser, and The Real Fed Up. Every single one of you spoke from the heart and with intelligence. You made great points and I do have to say this post lacked posters like you 98% percent of the time. To me, hating is when you say stupid and dumb comments about a person (you don't know) that won't help the situation, but only tears a person apart. You all actually are challenging Beyonce to become better, and I think that is fair and healthy crticism that she should listen to. I am glad that there are still some intelligent posters that can discuss their opposing views without being ignorant (and suggesting that women should go get some dick).

And I like her music to dance to in the club, but I think she should tone it down because I can't see her being a good role model at this point. Great debate.

Anonymous said...

@ 12:53

I completely agree. How can you call a woman a hoe for disagreeing with you? Oh that's right, Bee Gee ran out of "smart" things to say. I think someone's ego was bruised. Childish.

Anonymous said...

Hey hey! everyone just calm down, eat a biscuit with butter, and enjoy life!

Anonymous said...

LOL @ 1:32!

Anonymous said...

Maybe if Beyonce got some good dick she would make better music.

Anonymous said...

Maybe if Beyonce's female (and some, correction, MOST of her male) stans got some good dick, they would find something, anything else to do.

Anonymous said...

Okay I see the ignorant posters are back. Let them tell it and dick solves every woman's problems these days. Idiots.

I wonder what's going to happen when your little penis shivels up and you can't get it up anymore. I guess niggas like you will be worthless then. Oh wait, you're worthless now. I can't stand dumb niggas.

Anonymous said...

Honestly, even 10 year olds are having sex now. I mean it's so easy little kids are doing it. And grown ass "men" actually think that what they do is so "special" that it can take care of any woman's problems.

And honestly, most of yall aren't even good at THAT. These are the same dudes that walk around him with 3 or 4 baby mamas. Get the fuck out of here.

Anonymous said...

If you keep cyber attacking everbody who says they like Beyonce, then maybe YOU should get a life. It's America, people can like and not like whoever they fuck they want. Get over it.

Anonymous said...

Maybe dick can fix the economy too?

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