Friday, January 28, 2011

Leaked Papers From the Arenas Govan File


Gilbert Arenas and Laura Govan's break up is getting so messy...

From The Reliable Source
The on-again, off-again relationship between former Wizards star Gilbert Arenas and his girlfriend Laura Govan looks like it's off for good -- and a document obtained by the Reliable Source offers a window into their life together and what could be a stupendously expensive court battle.

In confidential notes, Govan -- who is expecting her fourth child with Arenas -- describes fights where he repeatedly threw her out of the house, his profligate spending (including a shark tank/pool/grotto complex said to cost $1 million), lavish vacations and spending sprees at toy stores.

And yet they never had a nanny, Govan complains, according to the notes: "he would state 'you had them you watch them.' "

Their nine years together came to an end in November, shortly before Arenas was traded to the Orlando Magic and moved to Florida; Govan last month claimed through a rep that he had abandoned her and the kids, cutting off all communications and support.

That might have been the end of the public drama. But then Govan contacted Trope and Trope, a high-profile family law firm in Los Angeles, and met with an attorney from the firm. Somehow, nine pages of typewritten notes from their meeting ended up in the midst of a court filing in another, unrelated case handled by the firm. All the pages were filed in a public docket in Los Angeles Superior Court.

Trope and Trope did not return calls for comment. According to a court order allowing the firm to remove the notes from public record because they contained "confidential attorney-client privileged communications," the firm "inadvertently copied and submitted" them due to a "clerical error."

A representative for Govan said she declined to comment on the public disclosure of the document or their contents.

But the notes -- which appear to be her version of their life together -- reveal lots of details about their relationship. Arenas, 29, and Govan, 31, first met in 2002, when she was coaching basketball at a Golden State Warriors camp. In addition to their three young children (the fourth is due in June), they went through other pregnancies that ended in miscarriages. Along the way, there were lots of break-ups and make-ups.

Some of the meeting notes confirm what Arenas himself shared on his popular, now-defunct blog: "I've done kicked her out of my house almost every weekend, yet she's still here and she still believes in me," he wrote in 2008 in a post describing his marriage proposal to her. The notes tell an almost identical story: "The reason he proposed to her is that he put her out of the house every other weekend since they met and she stays with him, so something must be working."

There's a lot about how Arenas spent his money, based on her understanding of the household finances: "he states he makes 1.5 million per month," read the notes. Arenas lavished plenty on their Great Falls home, dropping $100,000 on landscaping, $5,000 a month for housekeepers, $675 "per car" washing, and $1 million for his backyard pool and grotto. His sharks are expensive: $5,000 a month to feed them and $1,500 for a keeper to drive from Columbus to take care of them.

He was extravagant when it came to toys for the children -- ages 5, 4 and 2 -- buying a $60,000 train set and an $8,000 toy Mercedes-Benz electric car, and dropping between $30,000 and $40,000 during a shopping spree at FAO Schwartz. (Arenas also told this story on the blog, but didn't divulge the amount of money spent.)

The notes say Arenas gave Govan $8,000 a month for expenses; more than half went to pay the mortgage on a home she owns in California, and the rest went for groceries ($500-$600 a week from Peapod), doctors, classes and other expenses for the children.

Arenas's business manager, Los Angeles-based CPA to the stars Lester Knispel, is mentioned twice. Contacted by the Post, Knispel's office declined to discuss his client's expenditures and referred calls to Arenas's manager.

The end -- and it appears this time it's for real -- came on the day before Thanksgiving, when she threw him out of the house, according to the notes. Govan and the children left Great Falls less than two weeks ago and are now in California.
All signs point to a messy split.

David Cornwell, an attorney for Arenas, said in a statement that the notes contain "numerous inaccuracies and inflammatory statements by a disgruntled and vindictive woman." He declined to address any specific inaccuracies in the document, saying, "we will not dignify it by responding to Laura Govan's false and fanciful assertions. Rest assured, however, that Gilbert Arenas remains committed to providing his children with boundless love and support."

82 comments:

Anonymous said...

1st, Snitches!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

She continued to stay while this man put her out like a dog, but when he stopped giving her the money she leaves. Should have been saving in between the put outs.

Anonymous said...

This is a dumbass groupie broad.

Did she forget that she cheated with Shaq? I bet she left that part out of the documents.

Kids or not, I think that he'll be able to give her any amount of money he wasnts to.

Anonymous said...

lol, Did anyone ever see this from 2009:

Egyptologist Zahi Hawass Bad-Mouths Beyonce, Calls Her “Stupid Person

Egyptologist Zahi Hawass is known for his outbursts. He reportedly speaks in Arabic while attending dinner events and other social gatherings so he can insult non-Egyptians, who he assumes don’t understand his language. And well-known celebrities aren’t off-limits. Earlier this week, Beyonce toured the Giza pyramids with Hawass, who reportedly became annoyed with her attitude because she didn’t show the pyramids the respect he thinks they deserve.

“I showed her the Sphinx and I gave her a book on King Tutankhamen,” said Hawass, according to an Egyptian journalist who overheard the comments. “She’s a stupid person and she doesn’t understand a thing and she doesn’t want to understand. She’s coming here to take pictures and that’s it,” Hawass allegedly added. Beyonce didn’t understand the comments (unless she’s picked up a Rosetta Stone language program recently), and he pawned her off on an assistant, who scuttled her to a predetermined location to take photos. But I’ll be fair and say Beyonce’s entourage wasn’t on its best behavior either. One of her bodyguards threatened a photographer who was shooting the pop star without permission.

http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-chief-egyptologist-zahi-hawass-calls-beyonce-a-stupid-person/

ms mac said...

They obviously both thrive on dramatic bullshit, which to some people really does equate to love in their twisted minds. So if his dumb ass really believes that love = she comes back each time I send her ass packing, and her dumb ass really believes that love = he sends my ass packing but then he takes me back, then these two Numb Nuts should just work this shit out and keep it moving. I swear some people really do deserve each other.

gtfoh said...

Uh yeah 7:27. We saw it on Rhymes with snitch 2 years ago.

http://www.rhymeswithsnitch.com/2009/11/egyptologist-calls-beyonce-dummy.html

Anonymous said...

Trifling negro.

Spends $5000 a month on sharks, more that it costs to feed his family.

Spending over $100k on toys? What a fool these children have for a father.

How about putting that money away for your children's education?

We all know that after his career is over, the way he is spending money there will be nothing left soon.

I Breathe For Beyonce said...

Get The Fuck Out Of Here With That Bullshit About Beyonce That Old Ass Geezer Should Praise The High Heavens He Was Even In The Presence Of The Beautiful Beyonce. All You Bitches Should Bow Down To The Goddess Who Is Beyonce! Carry On Poor People And Stay Mad!

Anonymous said...

"The reason he proposed to her is that he put her out of the house every other weekend since they met and she stays with him, so something must be working."

Or they're both dumb as hell and shockingly immature. Either way.

Can you imagine having parents like this? What kind of screwed up relationships are these kids going to have when they grow up? Addicted to drama, unable to have stable relationships, thinking money equals love...

Anonymous said...

The article states that LG was spending half her allowance to keep up a home she owns in LA..so sounds like to me that was insurance she would have in case her gamble of trying to land her rich baby daddy did not work. Why keep taking him back when he was abusing her unless she was trying to finally lock down the goose that laid the golden egg? By any means necessary? The shyt did not work and he had moved on. Bet he is only waiting for her to drop baby #4 before he sues her for custody. So her plan B, getting paid big bucks as a baby mama, may be in jeopardy also..hope she can keep Sorrell Trope happy while Gil is tryna do a DWade...SMDH!!!

Anonymous said...

The article states that LG was spending half her allowance to keep up a home she owns in LA..so sounds like to me that was insurance she would have in case her gamble of trying to land her rich baby daddy did not work. Why keep taking him back when he was abusing her unless she was trying to finally lock down the goose that laid the golden egg? By any means necessary? The shyt did not work and he has moved on. Bet he is only waiting for her to drop baby #4 before he sues her for custody. So her plan B, getting paid big bucks as a baby mama, may be in jeopardy also..hope she can keep Sorrell Trope happy while Gil is tryna do a DWade...SMDH!!!

Anonymous said...

Regardlees of what's going on, in the end she will get "BROKE OFF"! The courts will make sure of that! She has four little Arenas babies. Word from the wise, the SHIT a women has to go though to get paid aint worth this!A baby daddy that is crazy as the day is long.This goes to show that she is just crazy to keep having babies with him. There is no self respect in this at all.Ladies stop selling yourself out! Stop playin' yourself.

Mz.LayDj said...

@8:23- wtf?all "B" cares about is that stans like (who don't have a life) buy her album. I wish I would bow down to any person. FAIL lol

@ govan & Gilbert-they running around like two teenagers from the projects. "Girl sees (dope)boy. Girl thinks meal ticket. Boy see pretty pussy being thrown at him and snatches it up. They fuck n fight (in between the babies come) and call it a relationship until one can't stand it anymore"....damn shame

Anonymous said...

There he go, doing typical nigga shit, what about savings, investments, shit something to make money for your money dumb ass, you cant play ball forever. watch his ass be in foreclosure in 3..2....

Ingmar's Prophetess said...

I understand money and wealth and good looks can be factors when you are looking for a mate. But sometimes you have to consider a mofo's mental state, too, before you get involved with them.

He might have been loaded with cash and she might have been good looking to him, but neither one of them stopped to consider how crazy the other one might be BEFORE they got involved.

It aint enough money in the world, or physical attractiveness (for lack of a better way to say a person looks good), to make me put up with "crazy". Crazy is crazy - all day long.

Anonymous said...

Her plan did work out this man is going to be paying her upwards to 20K per month watch.

He set himself up for this failure!

Anonymous said...

But...but....I thought that non-black women brought the black man so much more peace and tranquility and happiness. I thought their pussies were lined with mink and they knew how to treat a "brotha" better than us ball-busting she-male black women.

The reality is that these "others" are facing the same fate black women have been facing for decades now. Mass abandonement and pure and utter selfishness by black men. By all means, brothers, please keep impregnating and marrying non-black women. In fact, don't even look in a sister's direction anymore. Hop right on over that fence and take your bullshit with you. Women are better off without a man than to be fighting and scraping for one of these losers - rich or poor. Black men have shown that no matter how many resources they have they will exhibit the same behaviors - cheating, lying, domestically violent, immature and unable to handle the pressures that other men can. Then they blame the fact that 80% of them end up divorced on the women. It's all the fault of women, not their immaturity, laziness, selfishness and inability to control their sex organs.

ELove said...

REGARDLESS How any of us feel about This Male-TRICK and This Female TRICK... SHE is going to get F-ing PAID-IN-FULL !!!

The TRULY SAD THING is the CHILDREN are going to be TOTALLY SCREWED by having them as THEIR PARENTS (Real...)

ELove said...

@10:22pm
YOU are extremely TWISTED and DEMENTED with the unwarranted RHETORIC that You SPEW...

YT Men marry you, have kids with you THEN KILL YOU for the MOST TRIVIAL Reasons... And they Really KILL YOU in unthinkable ways... Cutting Your Head Off, Cutting YOU up into Pieces, Burning YOUR Body beyond recognition ETC, ETC, ETC

Black IMMATURE and Extremely FOOLISH Acting MALES don't represent ALL BLACK Males/Men in EXISTENCE within the U.S.

RECOGNIZE and RATIONALIZE and RESOLVE Your RESENTMENT Towards BLACK MEN/MALES as a WHOLE !!!

Anonymous said...

I hope he gets paternity tests on ALL of those kids.

Anonymous said...

I swear that 7:27 person is Sandra Rose. Why do I think most of the negative comments on this site and some others come from that Dumb, Ugly Ass Bitch.

Bee Gee said...

10:22 - I know you mad, sista, and it's obvious that some nigga has ran you through the ringer, but to generalize the entire race of black men? That's about as unfair as niggas that say all sistas are gold-diggers with attitudes. C'mon. We can all do better than to put that on the entire race, male of female. No doubt, there's plenty of black men that fit the profile you laid out. But no doubt, there's plenty that don't. Same goes for the typical stereotypes placed on sistas. When you get to the point that you label the entire race, I feel for you, cuz it seemingly signifies that you have lost hope. It really doesn't matter what color your happiness comes in, find it, catch it, recognize it, and hold onto it. But don't sink to the point to where you give up hope on the entire race. I'm not tryna imply that it's easy or that you're lookin in the wrong places (or anything like that), but there's plenty of good brothas out there. Peace, black woman.

About It said...

I've got to say 10:22 called it out
.
It was never said in the post that men of other races were better to black women than black men. It was a comment on the so-called reasons black men run behind, after and for white/latina/asian women while puttin' down a black woman. But then, they can't make it with a white/latina/asian woman, so WTF?

Anywho, with Gil and the wife, the body language tells it all. They look like one of them just farted.

ELove said...

^^^
10:22pm said
Black men have shown that no matter how many resources they have they will exhibit the same behaviors - cheating, lying, domestically violent, immature and unable to handle the pressures that other men can.

So WHO EXACTLY is "other men can" then ?!!?

And THEY DO LQQK Like THAT !!! ***LMAO***

Anonymous said...

no gilbert has problems she ran behind him for years so I have to applaud her he has and will forever have problems and please don't ask how I know

Anonymous said...

abandonement? let me get this straight. He can abandon a woman that he was never married to, doesn't matter if they had 100 kids. She had an allowance, and she blew it on trying to live like someone who makes millions of dollars a year. HE OWES YOU NOTHING,YOU ALLOWED A MAN TO STEAL 9 YEARS IF SORRY ASS LIFE.It's his money, he can spend 10,000 on a smurf statue for all I care. She has no right to it, but his children does. She os the perfect example of the light.mixed/spanish woman who thinks her looks will keep her caked up. She was correct, her uterus keeps her caked up. A woman suffers from attachment issues when she will not stop poping out babies for a man that is off and on with her. She also suffers from greed, because she wants to be a baskeball wife that never works. No pity parties here little girl. Get a J-o-b! many African American men do not want to settle down, they want to play the field until they are forced to settle down. every other race establishes families by teh time they are in tehir late twenties through mid thrties, but black men prefer to play. So many want to go around poping out babies with random ass women, and by the time they want to settle down they are being killed with child support payments. Some black women are stupid enough to still lay up and have more babies with them. Don't even talk a brother with a good education,job, and no kids, because he thinks he is something special! you gotta be nearly perfect to be with his corny ass. Ladies, baby mama is not a wife. It just means you slept with a dude and had his baby. It will never compare to his wife. his wife will have access to all his assets, you just get a check in the mail every month. Black men love knocking women, and black women seem to accept baby mama title. I'm 30 with no kids! saw the drama in my first maririage and decided to not have any children with my first husband. you control your fertility ladies! She has no excuse, se's just a lazy bitch that wante dto stay caked up.

ELove said...
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Anonymous said...

@1:53am Sorry to burst your bubble about the black man and his triflin ways but it is not just a "black thang" it is a world wide epidemic. It is happening in Japan and Italy just to name a few places. In Italy they are called Mammoni(mamas boys) and in Japan they are called Parasite singles. Even the white man are going throught the same bullshit. So what is at the root of the problem? Women. Some of us dont know anymore what a man should act and be like and we damn sure cant raise a man to be a man. THE VERY FIRST TIME HE PUT HER OUT THE HOUSE she should of NEVER TURNED BACK. What example is that to her children. Gilbert isn't the only one to blame in this Gloria is responsible for all the decisions that she makes. Gilbert wasnt holding a gun to her and forcing her to stay for nine years just the opposite he was throwing her ass out every weekend.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with one thing:

"you had them, you watch them".

While he should also have an active role in his kids' lives...Bitch! You don't have a job...wtf you need a nanny for?!

Anonymous said...

These brothers come into the NBA as kids and score major dough ($100 Milly) out tha gate at age 20, don't act like you were mature or knew everything between the ages of 19 and 25. Big money bigger problems, shit the entire familys on both side seeing money for the first time. Dropping $30k in a toy store is fucking stupid cause money spent don't equate love, provide for your kid's no doubt, but 30k in a toy store on a 4yr old....dumb ass, open an annuity or trust fund for those babies and for the record, stop thinking hot sex equals a healthy relationship. So he can play basketball and she can obviously fuck (co-sign 9:39PM for real though!) and stop saying every brother is a dirt dog, the only thing that changed for this fool was he got money, shit don't blame the money, money only does what it's told to do! (that's a metaphor for you lames that don't understand) and for the record real brothers get dismissed everyday for those no respect having mama's boy, ignorant baller types who disrespect a female in a heartbeat only to have her working double time to get back with his lame "I fucked yo girlfriend, cousin and sista punk ass bad boy bullshit acting ass. Shit the only time you hear these bitches cryin (and I ain't referring to real women)is when he don't want the stank stank no more. You want to paint him as evil, bitch you as equally guilty for not mannaging your shit to the benifit of your children, ya should have stopped at baby number one! "four kid's" under ya'll fucked up circumstances, that's a 50/50 split on stupidity. He'll be broke soon and them babies will pay for all they bullshit, damn shame!

Arod said...

Doesn't seem like he's a horrible guy or that she's a horrible female.they just don't need to be together.I don't understand why some people don't just let go when all the signs are clearly there.yall arguing and fussing and kicking each other out the house every weekend.somebody should have been moved on.looks like he was the first to do it...I don't agree with him leaving the kids high and dry tho.he needs to correct that shyt before he makes this women any more bitter cause I can't stand bitter bitches..

Anonymous said...

Well,Ihave.to.say.that.I.agree.with.10:22pm.for.the.most.part...

I.have.a.beautiful.biracial.daugther...I.will.quietly.advise.her.to.NOT.look.to.a.black.man.for.any.kind.of.stable.and.lasting.relationship....

It.is.not.that.they.are.inferior.but.they.typcially.have.Not.been.trained.on.how.to.function.as.husbands.and.fathers.of.the.family...Some.of.the.miseducation.stems.from.slaves.roots.and.some.is.learned.behaviors.from.other.men.around.them...You.never.the.less.stay.clear.of.them.as.I.do!!!

Altough,BeeGee.does.make.a.valid.point.about.being."hopeless.when.it.comes.black.men"...And.E-Love,my.love....You.are.right.the.white.knight.theory.is.playing.out.

Laura Gavon said...

I'm not a nigger, I can tell becucse I don't smell like shit babble on the phone or text incoherent bullshit

Laura Govan said...

oh yea, and my mother gave me a real name not Shatweek LaQuanda Dorito or some other ridiculous nigger crap yo baby momma gave you during a drunk scrabble game bwah hah

Anonymous said...

Dysfunction has no color.

Anonymous said...

@laura govan aka 11:17 you may not be a nigga but you clearly love you some BLACK NIGGA DICK don't you???!! O_o

Anonymous said...

@7:27PM and @9:39PM - what does the article about Bey have to do with this story on Gilbert and Laura Govan?

You are a serious Bey hater.

I think you need help if all you see and think about is Bey. Jealous much? You have serious mental issues. Damn!!! (Hey Kim K)

Anonymous said...

Don't even talk a brother with a good education,job, and no kids, because he thinks he is something special! you gotta be nearly perfect to be with his corny ass.

**********

Good.observation@@@1:53am...They.will.clown.the.mess.out.of.you.and.especially.if.they.are.from.a.fairly.well-to.black.family.to.boot...Typically,those.families.overprotect.them.from.society...i.e.they.become.like.mean-babies.

And.they.do.not.neccessarily.have.to.have.good.education.just.be.fireman.and.or.policeman...They.still.think.that.you.should.be.honored.to.be.in.their.presence.

Anonymous said...

It should have dawned on her that this relationship was not going to end well when he kicked her out the first time. They are both equally stupid and pathetic.

Quiana said...

Smh at this mess.

Bee Gee said...

1:18PM - The utmost respect sista, but isn't that kinda how you plan to condition your daughter to treat black men? As something unacceptable for a relationship? As a non-option? I'm not knockin you at all or passing judgement, but just asking the question. You don't think that your advice could be being overprotective in a way?

It'll always be an interesting and sad (to me) dynamic of the black man & woman, but the bottom line is there are good brothas and sistas out there - plenty of em. So it's disheartening to see a person, whose minute (in the grand scope of things) life experiences with a particular sex of a particular race, leads them to submit absolute belief in a generalized stereotype of that particular part of a race.

For every sista that thinks all black men are about some bullshit, there's probably a brotha out there wondering where you are. He may not be 6'2 with the body of a god, but he's got his shit together and can be molded by any good woman. Conversely, for every black woman that thinks all black men are about some bullshit, there's a brotha out there that thinks you're nothing but a gold-diggin baby-momma with a combative personality. Both viewpoints are equally fulla shit, and we black men & women need to admit that we're usually looking at the wrong people and in the wrong places.

I watched my own sister bypass brothas with good heads on their shoulders and a great outlook on life, for thug niggas or dog niggas that were (on the outside) more pleasing to her eyes. We need to admit that we put too much stock in superficial shit and don't give enough chance to what may be on the inside of that black man/woman.

Anonymous said...

It's easy to hate on a brother cause you refuse to acknowledge the existance of sucessful black men. Bums come in every flavor so kill that noise cause Suzy Q, Li Hong, and many more be up on it on the low. Yeah every other man is the shit umm hmm cause mullet cut pall mall cigarette smoking white boys don't beat on their wives and pretty indian women aren't slaves to their butt ugly pot belly hairy ass husbands, and the beat goes on and on and on, and for you hating azz sista's, he's only making a pit stop cause momma ain't havin yo azz at the trust fund buffet table, if your only asset is your pussy, then you deserve to get FUCKED! always bitching about somebody, do for self skank ass hoe's

dumb nigger said...

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Anonymous said...

^^^^I.like.BeeGee,so.do.NOT.start.on.him!!!Back.off!!!

Anonymous said...

BeeGee


You.have.a.valid.point...I.will.truly.rethink.or.think.about.it...I.would.NOT.want.her.to.clown.anyone's.son.

Felicia said...

See it is black men like BeeGee and E love that just reminds me how wonderful the Black man is. I just cannot give up on The Black Man. He is the only thing that I feel is equal too me and for me. Black love is so powerful. Especially when you see it at work.

Anonymous said...

@1:53am Sorry to burst your bubble about the black man and his triflin ways but it is not just a "black thang" it is a world wide epidemic. It is happening in Japan and Italy just to name a few places. In Italy they are called Mammoni(mamas boys) and in Japan they are called Parasite singles. Even the white man are going throught the same bullshit. So what is at the root of the problem? Women. Some of us dont know anymore what a man should act and be like and we damn sure cant raise a man to be a man.

3:40 AM

^^^
Don't forget the German Nesthocker who are still living at Hotel Mama.

But here is the difference.

The Japanese children are expected to care for their elderly parents and not to put them into nursing homes. These parasite children eventually do get married therefore have someone to help carry the load.

Same thing with the Italians. They will marry and expect their wives to take care of the their elderly parents.

By the way, most of those parasite kids have jobs.


On the flip side, Black men are not trying to get married will be lucky to have a job, and for the most part will not be taking his mother into to his home.

If he doesn't have a wife, how can he convince a woman to wipe his mother's behind because he sure won't be.

He will put Mom in a nursing home or leave it to someone else to do it.

STALE ASS POST said...

thumbs down for a STALE ASS POST!

Anonymous said...

There is NOTHING better than having a black man, says this black woman.

Anonymous said...

This has nothing to do with all (black men). This woman knew that she should not have had all these children with this man and after 9 year not only was she not married to him but then she got impregnated again for the 4th time. Women need to stop blaming men for their irresponsible actions. She knew he was a dog a long time ago but yet she decided to stay in the relationship for financial gain. Now because his dumb ass wants to move on her dumb ass want to put their business out in the street. So what he spent a lot of money on things he likes, hes' the one with the damn contact not her.

Anonymous said...

contract -

Anonymous said...

ok. fifty percent of marriages in america end in divorce. and since the present day Natzi's and racists like to throw the word nigger around alot, which is meaningless to most black people, it means that most marriages are white and non black couples which means that at the end of the day, white people can't get their act together either. yeah they get married, but they marry just to head straight to their local divorce attorney the next day.

which means if anyone black, or white, has a functioning brain cell, they would realized it's not a black or white thing. it's the current society and how we honor men being pimps, thugs, players, thugs, decietful, womanizers vs. men of the older generation who were at least gentle and had family values, and took care of thier woman even if they had a weakness for womanizing.

Bee Gee said...

On another note, what is goin' on in Egypt, wow.. What if the people of this country mobilized against this government that is supposedly of/for/by the people? Funny how the American media is portraying Mubarak for the pimp that he's been for decades, yet for much of his reign, Egypt has been an ally of the U.S. Watch us stick our noses in this shit if it doesn't calm down in a little bit. That's how we do.

Anonymous said...

@6:21 PM, you may have a point regarding the divorce rates in America.

However, another poster defeneded Black men's trifling ways by comparing them to Parasite Children of Japenese, Italian and German descent living in their native countries.

My statement was and still is that those foreign Parasite children tend to end up eventually marrying, and for the most part, they stay married. They also take on family responsibilities and eventually caring for elderly parents. Which we know most Black men do not do.

The divorce rates in Japan & Germany is about 27%.

The divorce rate in Italy is about 18%.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but black men are not the ish. Dated enough stable black men to know that they hold out for the shit don't stink perfect females. it's funy, because they usually end up marrying well educated whores. I remember going on with this alright guy that had a great accounting/fiance job with a large law firm.He would brag all the time how he wasn't ready to settle down, and that he was a catch. yes, at 34 he had never been married, no kids,nice house, and all of the other nice material things that we would want. Now he is 42 with two kids from two different women. He refuses to settle down and somewhere in his crazy mind he still thinks that black women want him because he drives a nice benz to work. he never once decided to settle down with niether one of his babymamas. The point of the story is black men seem to think that they don't need a wife or any sort of family structure. They can play the field till they gain 40 pounds,start balding, get tied down in debt, pay loads of child support, and then All of a sudden they wake up and want a WIFE! They want a wife who will deal with all the bullshit they have accumlated over the years. Oh please! black women need to stop depending on child support checks. I am happily marrie dto a blue collar brother who was raised in a two parent household and always wanted a family. he loves all teh women in hsi family and treats them like queens. It was instilled in him that every man should have a wife by the time they are 30. He married me by the time he was 31! I'm blessed to have him in my life, because that other jerk I was seeing was too high and mighty to settle down.Now lok at him, speeding towards 50 and really believes he is still a catch because he went to a good school and got a great job. how sad.

Bee Gee said...

7:52 - Sounds like you used to gravitate to brothas with the appearance that they had it goin on.. got tired of the bullshit that comes with narcissistic people.. and gave a more "common" brotha a chance to make you happy. Of course, I'm just guessing, but either way your story speaks to what I was talkin about. I think a lotta times, we grow up with unrealistic values, many times centered on materialism. Part of growing up is modifying that to a level that is realistic, and realizing that having money and nice things in abundance doesn't make someone "the catch" for you. Some of the most precious jewels on this planet come out of the grown looking like plain old dirt covered rocks. One woman's "broke nigga always workin and can't ever take me nowhere" might be the next woman's "he works hard for every dime and spends whatever free time he has with me.."

Anonymous said...

^it is sad, i know exactly what you're talking about. now give me some advice, please...there's some guy i've been talking to that is "marriage material" but the only problem is i don't find him attractive. but i don't want to end up like the female version of your 50 year old aquaintance either. should i settle? or hope and seriously pray for someone of my liking even though the probability of finding a black man with those same credentials as this guy has is slim to none....

Anonymous said...

@BeeGee Just want to say i agree with u a 1000%... I'm one of those females that learned the hard way..I thank GOD that i made it out Alive and now have an REAL MAN IN MY LIFE....

Anonymous said...

Wow. Somebody in here has a hatred for Italians and Japanese and etc... "Parasite Kids"...

That's why people (of ALL races, colors) fail so miserably at finding the true love they believe they are entitled to; because we are immature, cavalier and basically ignorant about it. Always have to ascribe to and fall for some unintelligent, racist or demeaning label that's placed on another race of people.

Maybe if you wouldn't think of other races of humans as parasites (whether you made up the phrase or not) you might be able to free your heart up just in case your real divine and true love might be one from another race. That shows you have no love for anyone of another race and therefore, how do you expect to receive love if you don't have it to give when it comes to certain people?

Dealing with elderly (and/or feeble) parents can be a very emotional and trying time in a couple's life. You really do have hard and tough decisions to make for your parents. From my experience, it was tough for me. I didn't have anyone to help me through that time and I am not ashamed to say that I would support ANY spouse of mine in whatever decision they might have to make in regards to elderly or sick parents. Or even a sick and unrecoverable child. That's what love makes you do. You be there to support them. Because you wouldn't want your spouse to think that you feel their parents are a burden that you're not willing to bear. You talk as if elderly people are (or should be considered) a burden on their families and a burden to whoever has to care for that parent or parents. It shouldn't be looked at as a burden, I don't think. I would be glad to help my spouse through a rough time in their life because I wouldn't want them to feel like I felt - alone and as if nobody gave a damn.

We humans are basically base, trifling people. The terrible, unintelligent things we do and say to each other and about each other. No wonder we're still struggling to find something; because we're abusive to each other - in every way.

If you want some love, give some first. If you want someone to be this, this and this; why don't you try being all that, first.

Anonymous said...

@7:17pm I didn't defend triflin black mens ways I was just pointing out the fact that while the grass may appear greener on the other races side it is not.Parasite singles do have jobs but most opt for their parents to take care of them financially while they spend their earnings on designer items and expensive gifts for themselves. THe mooching has earned them the nickname "parasite".

Anonymous said...

@10:44pm Where did you get that anyone was racist against Japanese and Italians? You should of reread the post before you posted your long winded essay against racism because your accusations are false. The terms parasite single and mammoni were coined by those nations. "parasite singles" is translated from the JAPANESE term parasaito shinguru.

Anonymous said...

smh at this mess it aint good.

Anonymous said...

Let me get this stright , he dropped 30k on the kids at a toy store and had her living in a mansion with a shark tank....then found out she was smashing Shaq on the side and bounced, U'mmm she fucked up and it ain't no small thing. Picture some fool laying pipe in your girl and she's loving it, spitting on the dick and gobbleing the sauce and not just any chick but the mother of your four children. Then the bitch come home and tell you to fuck off for asking questions (you know who you are) Yeah he put her out on some back and forth type shit , but thats' what happens when you tolerate a bitch!, now he done had enough and she playing the kid card. Ok he does have to provide for his children but that bitch ain't no saint. You know what them arguments were about, he tried to settle down with her but she insisted on hoe hopping and you hoe's know what I'm talking about.

Anonymous said...

ANY man -not just an Italian man only - would expect his wife to help him care for his aging or feeble parents. What's wrong with that? Just as she would expect her husband to help care for her parents. There is NOTHING wrong with that. Those are normal expectations ALL couples have.

And I think that anybody who says to his or her spouse: "Shit, I'm not wiping no ass. You better put your momma in the nursing home" should be shown the door.

You talk as if a man expecting his wife to help him care for his aging parents, or a wife willingly helping her husband take care of his parents, is degrading somehow to the wife. Some people take on the responsibility out of love, simply because they want to help their spouse and aren't selfish and uncaring.

Are you saying your spouse (if you are married) shouldn't be expecting you to help him/her care for his/her parents because you're not going to?

Anonymous said...

So she claiming he a deadbeat because he spend lavish on the kids. She sounds like she auditioning for a role in basketball wives.

She only makes herself look ignorant. Did she learn nothing from Wades baby mama. We alll know by law that she is entitled to child support but if she keeps this route she aint gonna have the kids. No Kids = No Child support

They weren't married

Anonymous said...

@ 10:41 Bitch back off Elove. That is MY (E)man.

Anonymous said...

Good.Question@@@8:37pm...A.good.partner.can.make.or.break.your.life...It.is.decision.that.should.be.made.with.cruical.care...Character.has.too.matter.far.more.than.physical.beauty...However,physical.beauty.is.important.

You.mentioned.pray.I.would.advise.you.to.earnestly.seek.the.Lord's.face.in.praying.about.this.man's.character.and.his.ability.to.take.care.of.you.and.if.children.are.involved...Then.how.will.they.be.treated.on.both.side.of.the.equation.

The.Book.of.Proverbs.shreds.some.light.on.this.issue:(5:15-19;.12:4;.14:1;.18:22;.19:13-14;.21:9;.27:15-16;.31:10-31)...Instead.of.wife.replace.it.with.husband.as.you.filter.the.information.and.ponder.about.it...


And.another.question...Can.you.really.make.him.a.good.wife(QUESTION.MARK)....Please,seek.to.be.honor.with.him.and.yourself.

ELove said...

@7:52pm
I KNOW @BeeGee already set you STR8 on the REAL but to add to that... THAT Dude (And Males like HIM...) is a Bougie House NICCA and there's NOTHING Genuine-n-Real about A FRAUDULENT MAN (Real...)

An OBVIOUS Red-Flag ALERT for YOU Females:
A MAN that values & equates HIS VALUE to his Material Possessions that he's worked for is a Social FABRICATION of A Real Man... A FIGMENT of YOUR Non-Realistic Perspective of A REAL MAN... NOT the ESSENCE and REALM of what a REAL MAN SUPPOSE TO BE !!!

ELEVATE Your Consciousness by Understanding THE TRAITS, BEHAVIOR and INNATE MANNERISMS that Real MEN Exhibit... THIS can be done by spending FAR MORE TIME Talking, Sharing Thought Provoking DIALOGUE and PROBING each others Insight & Intellect INSTEAD OF Having Sexual Relations, Meaningless Chit-Chat and Exploring HIS Personal Business BECAUSE THOSE THINGS are ALL ROOTED in Rhetoric Bull-Shyt (MF-ing Real...)

ELove said...

@12:46am
Gilbert is in THE SYSTEM (Those Gun Charges...) and THAT ALONE will exclude him from ever getting FULL CUSTODY of THEIR Kids... And the Affidavits that are apart of that SEALED CASE are very disturbing regarding Gilbert's MENTAL Capacity & Stability with the BEHAVIOR HE EXHIBITED to the surrounding events that led up to THOSE Gun Charges (Real...)

Her being BUTT-AZZ Foolish isn't enough for her to LOSE CUSTODY of THE KIDS and Gilbert needs to SETTLE UP & Rid himself of this PUBLIC Family Mess that HE Greatly Assisted in CREATING !!!

Anonymous said...

I'm not reading all that SNITCH I NEED CLIFFNOTES!




LMAO cuz i'm numba 1

Anonymous said...

A man is just gonna be a man. A man or anyone will only do to you what you allow. If you allow a man to get you pregnant or sleep with you without marriage there is no promise or guarantee he ever will.
If every time you get into an argument or you make him mad and he kicks you out His house and you come running back into his arms just 2 have it happen to you again...why should he rethink his actions the next time you get into a fight?

And if you are not putting real effort into caring for the family or you don't in the beginning request marriage before children or probe to see what type of family man he will be is there a chance he will all of sudden become the greatest husband/father? A few do but that's a big what if.
If you are okay with the mental/emotional abuse because you are comfortable with the lavish life style,why should he treat/view you as anything more than his baby mama looking to get paid....

Thus why some men manipulate or play games with you..because ladies if you don't take yourself seriously chances are he won't. It don't matter if he black,white,Asian or any other race, you must first learn to love yourself, and respect yourself and be wise about choosing a man and I guarantee you will find a man that will treat you good surprisingly he may be the same brother that another sister wrote off as another trifling black man.

Anonymous said...

FANTASIA, PLEASE STOP TALKING LIKE A CHILD. IT IS HARD TO WATCH YOUR SHOW WITH YOU SOUNDING LIKE THAT. YOU CAN SING LIKE A GROWN UP, NOW PLEASE SOUND LIKE ONE ON A REGULAR. THAT CHILDISH SOUND IS NOT SEXY....
THANK YOU....
LOVE YA!!

Anonymous said...

when did RWS start taking weekends off? lazy azz...

NubianGoddez said...

@ELove said...
*Standing ovation and cosign to the 9th power!!*
I'm not even gonna rag on this dude, cauze Elove pretty much said what I was gonna say about this fool. but this broad she get's the dumbass award!! no self respect at all SMH are women really this desperate??

Done wit Black men said...

Just goes to show the mentality of MOST Black men. Dummies think straight hair & light skin make their nappy headed asses look better (ahem...Kobe, Tiger...etc.)
Me? I have a NON -black man and I will NEVER go back to a crunchy headed n***er. Look at this fool...could be investing or saving but spending money like its water. Typical.
Oh and ELove and Bee Gee? Both gay. What other "men" sit on the computer and spit out pearls of wisdom when they could be working out or out working? Fa**ots!

Anonymous said...

@10:24 hey ignorant ass. you can choose whomever you wish to bed/date/marry, but no need to insult all black men in the process. get a clue--being with a man of another race will not change your ethnicity or that of your children if god forbid you have any.

Bee Gee said...

10:24 - Damn baby, with your personality and obvious qualities, I can't imagine brothas not wanting to wife you..lmao It's a good thing you found a white boy that accepts your self-hateful darkskinned, wish-I-was-white, ass. I work in an office environment like a lotta heads on here, so don't be mad at me cuz I'm fortunate enough to make good money and shit on rejects like you at the same time. Now go wash ya ass cuz you stink of jealousy and bitterness. Personally, I apologize on behalf of all the black men that made you into the undesirable bridge troll that you are today. It's truly sad that you hate yourself so much that you think having a non-black man makes you less black and more acceptable.

I'd normally tell a monster like you to go kill yaself, but you sound pretty much dead already. Good riddance, and deez nuts.

LMAO said...

LMAO @ "undesirable bridge troll" Now THAT one BeeGee is a token. A true KILLER amongst words.

Anonymous said...

@9:43am...EXACTLY!!!...he's just wasting money...SMH...:-(

Anonymous said...

@I Breathe For Beyonce said...
" Carry On Poor People And Stay Mad!"
Beyonce I know that good and damn well better not be you!!! but your not smart enough to put that paragraph together, that ain't nobody byt Solange washed up ass!! Go kick rocks and stop calling ppl poor!! We're rich w/ spirt as long as we online that mean we have lights or at least access to them!!!

bogart4017 said...

who are these people?

Anonymous said...

I think they are both disfunctional, hate it for the kids!

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