Tyler Perry has made no secret that he's dying to have Diana Ross star in one of his movies, but it's only going to happen over Madea's dead body...
From The National Enquirer
DIANA ROSS hates Tyler Perry – she considers his “Madea” money making machine “lowbrow” and WORSE!
The 68-year-old Motown icon has flatly refused repeated requests to co-star with the “House of Payne” creator because she regards his body of work as too lowbrow, say insiders.
“Diana feels Tyler’s movies, TV shows and especially his main character ‘Madea’ have no substance,” an insider told The ENQUIRER.
The acclaimed actor/director/ producer has been trying to work with his idol Diana for years, “but she refuses to even discuss the prospect with him,” according to the insider. The 42-year-old creative ge¬nius is devastated by Diana’s slap in the face and told a reporter: “She’s the only person that I have dreamed of working with that will not return my phone calls.”
Tyler found out that the former lead singer of The Supremes thinks his plays, movies and TV shows exploit African-American stereotypes, said the source.
“Diana is all about her entertainment legacy,” the insider explained.
“The last thing she wants is to co-star in a cheesy comedy starring a black man in a fat suit playing a half-cocked, angry old woman waving a gun.
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He kant be mad at her either..
fuck you snitch. youre a piece of sht. the crap that i grunted and pushed out my ass this morning is worth more than you. the blood that is dripping on my pad right now has more value than you. you are a worthless piece of sht.
Diana the BOSS has spoken! I don't blame her...Mahoghany---Lady Sings the Blues are Masterpieces. Diana is the real thing, and she knows "shit" when she see's it!! Diana does'nt need the money, but pride and integrity is worth far more than a few lame laughs. They don't make'em like Diana no more....
She Is and will always be THE DIVA!!!!! Go On Gurl...
Oh and remember that movie Diana starred in, "OUT OF DARKNESS" where she played a woman who suffered with Schizophrenia?? A-Plus performance...fuck dick in the booty and mouth ass tyler perry.
fuck dick in the booty and mouth ass tyler perry.
As usual, black people hate when another black person is successful.
As far as I know, Diana Ross was the one fucking and sucking the owner of her label as well as many of its artists, so you should probably be directing that dick in the booty comment to her.
Dang Diana, if you felt that way, you should have kept it to yourself. Nothing worse than having a favorite star, meeting them just to find out they are a b!tch. Tyler admired you and you call all his hard work 'cheesy'? I am hoping this isn't true. If it is, Diana - one word - CLASSLESS!!
There is a blind item reveal about him and her in CDAN about people telling him not to work with her because she is a mess and not the same as she use to be........
had to pick myself up off the floor after reading that last sentence.
As usual, black people hate when another black person is successful.
Really? Yet you just accused a very successful Diana Ross of basically being a cum receptacle without factually knowing that.
A skillet doesn't have this much irony.
THIS FROM THE STAR OF THE WIZ?
Dont get me wrong, cause i loved the wiz, but there was def some black sterio typical tom foolery going on in that film. but every thing he does is not centered around madea( i love the browns) so why dont she just say she would rather not and be done with it already. stop with the extra ra ra bullshit!
Fuck that ole drunk bitch! Diana only likes white ppl anyway with her sellout ass! I hate that ole bug-eyed bitch. Now she wants to be classy after she fucked everything with power in the 60 & 70s. That ole hoe ain't a diva, she just screwed the right ppl. TEAM FLO BALLARD!
Diana & Beyonce are one and the same.
As far as I know, Diana Ross was the one fucking and sucking the owner of her label as well as many of its artists, so you should probably be directing that dick in the booty comment to her.
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Oh, please. That was 50-odd years ago, Diana was in her 20s and she ain't doing that shit now. Unlike Tyler in his 40s who has to buss it wide open for every leading man in his flicks.
Why can't Ms. Ross give her opinion that Ms. Perry's movies suck and she does NOT want to be in them...she is not lying.
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u have proof of that? or is mto your source? oh wait let me guess, a blind item? lmfaooo
rhonda,berrys child,is forty
Why are people even comparing what Diana Ross did in her private life to the professional cooning that Tyler Perry subjects the public to on a weekly basis?
I was watching an old movie from the 1930s the other day, with a typical "mammy" character who spent the whole time acting simple. Even the young children white children in the movie were portrayed to be smarter than her.
Tyler Perry's characters are no different from Mammy and those others from back in the day, except, I guess Tyler thinks his work is "progressive" because do everything but lick white folks boots.
Damn did she forget she was AFRICAN AMERICAN...all she had to was say no an keep it pushing
"The 42-year-old creative genius is dev--STOP!
@1:57 What in the world happened to you??
I put money that nobody from the "national enquirer" spoke with Diana Ross.
she regards his body of work as too lowbrow, say insiders.
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She didn't say it but I will; it includes his stans as well.
Diana Ross is an acclaimed actress, singer and Icon .Mahoghany and Lady Sings the Blues are Masterpieces, and while I understand what she say's TP does not only makes Madea movies, he makes beautiful black films with beautiful black cast albeit sometimes cheesy.
cosign 2:24 and this analogy on Miss Ross and her turned up nose at TP @ Now she wants to be classy after she fucked everything with power in the 60 & 70s. That ole hoe ain't a diva, she just screwed the right ppl.
I would hope she would not publicly bash TP, leave that to the public, but the reality is Diana ain't nobody to cast no stones at TP she was legendary for her ho shit back in the day, however well it was covered up, they just lucky back then their was no damn tmz, mediatakeout and studio's invested money and greased lots of palms to keep their "stars" dirt well hidden. if she does not want to work with TP she could just respectfully decline, without resorting to acting like some ole high class high siddy bitch, I hope this story is not true.
I was watching an old movie from the 1930s the other day, with a typical "mammy" character who spent the whole time acting simple. Even the young children white children in the movie were portrayed to be smarter than her
I don't know why but I read this with Whitley Gilbert's voice in my head and I'm having a giggle fit about it. But co-sign @2:45 though.
Crazy how ppl give so much substance to something taken from the National Enquirer. Smh
yall are draining me today. It was reported in the Enquirer people. Diana's been laying low for years...ddn't even come to MJ funeral but extended the olive branch if the Jackson's needed her. She's up in age and prolly tryna enjoy her own life, grandkids, kids, etc. She has nothing to prove music or movie wise. No matter what dick she sucked, she was a talented bitch who did that.
No formal acting training and killed lady sings the blues, getting an Oscar nomination...she, richard pryor, and billy dee. she is that bitch, plain and simple.
I can assure you will smith and jada will probaly never do a tyler film. I support his body of work, but when you're on that level with that type reputation, I'm not risking it in a tyler production, sorry.
If I was an actress I would much rather work with Spike Lee who has a better body of work and then it would have to be a French based indie film in black and white.
@1st - 2:04PM and Numbian-Goddess...
Exactly! I hope Diana didn't publicaly throw shade, cause her hoe shit is legendary. All the way back when she flat out lied about the paternity of Berry Gordys kid. Lets not forget her alleged backstabbing days with the Supremes, as Mary Wilson tells it. Oh, and her Beyonce-Surrogate scenario with her last two children. The Boss can take seat in the back of Ms.Li's Wig theatre. *side-eyes* if this is TRUE.
^^correction "Nubian"
and lets not forget about all her DDW/DUI's reason why she's riding Miss Daisy style these days.
The low down dirty bitch Diana Ross needs to shut the fuck up and quit acting like she's better than everyone else. Legacy? legacy of what? lying cheating stealing and treating people like shit? get the hell out of here she and beyonce both can go straight to hell and rot!
diana is a hot mess,no room to throw shade at anyone. id rather have tyler perrys background,who worked himself up from plays to movies,building success the old fashioned way, was homeless at times,struggled,etc over diana ross,who backstabbed the CREATOR of the surpremes,florence ballard, and fucked her way to the top.
Tyler Perry has been exploiting the writers who work for him by refusing to pay them.
And what is wrong with Diana Ross not wanting to work with Tyler? She might have been a ho who stabbed a few backs in her time, but we can all look at her body of work and be proud of what she contributed to the culture.
You cannot say the same for Tyler Perry.
The low down dirty bitch Diana Ross needs to shut the fuck up and quit acting like she's better than everyone else. Legacy? legacy of what? lying cheating stealing and treating people like shit? get the hell out of here she and beyonce can both go straight to hell and rot!
Before I blast her, until I hear it from her and not a source, I will reserve comments but I still say Flo had the best voice in the original group and Mary was the prettiest!
Good! Diana comes from a generation that adored the wise old "Ma'Dear" (short for mother dear not some jacked up mythical bitch named Medea). Fuck Tyler, Medea, and a toast to Ms. Ross. This made my day.
SO its okay to backstab, mutilate,and steal from others, as long as the end product is good, which isnt really hers? That says alot about your character.
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exactly.
@2:03pm. Yes, I absolutely hate it when black people are successful when it's to the detriment of other black people. So, Tyler gets tossed in the same bin with Steppin Fetchit, Buckwheat, Kingfish, etc. I don't give a damn about a "artist" needing to work. They can all kiss my ass.
Say what you want about Diana Ross, but she's part of the crew that introduced the world to black music in a dignified way. Tyler couldn't form the words to make a statement about dignity. That's how sorry he is.
4:56 he/she must be a fan of beyonce also
Omg! These comments are something else. Some of you are so disrespectful calling her out of her name. Regardless of anything Diana is an older to woman to us. Have a little respect. Whatever she chose to do in her PERSONAL life is her business. How would some of you feel if someone was to speak this way about your grandparent/s? If she was to die, you same people would be talking about how great she is, and would be saying how much you loved her, calling her a legend etc. People are so disrespectful these days. Whatever happened to respecting your elders? I couldn't get on the internet and talk this way about an older person, whether I'm posting anonymous or not. Not only that, you same people bashing her are believing a story printed by The National Enquirer. Diana's not even in the media like that. I don't believe she said those things. I do however believe that some body's trying to start some mess, because they know that Diana for whatever reason doesn't want to work with Perry.
@ 2:03 PM - LMAO
Diana did some greasy shit to get to the top and stepped on alot of hands and toes along the way. AND she made it possible for talantless women to actually have a singing career! wanna know what she did to achieve her goal?
Trying to backtrack now? Miss me with that bs about respecting elders.You have to deserve my respect. I call it like I see it. Youre a shady, moral-less character who I agree,probably supports everything Beyonce does. Who cares she backstabbed, dissed, and stepped on many people? What matters is her success, right?smh. You are truly garabge.
@ 4:51 PM Neither one of them were a "whitney houston" Flo had the best voice out of the 3, but Diana bided to sleep with Barry Gordy first, and convinced him into making her the lead, although, she had no real talent, considering the motown roaster back then. Diana slept with the majority of the motown artists, includung Marvin Gaye, a few temptations and Barry Gordy
I have hard time believing Diana Ross said that. She's usually so sweet and supportive of other artist, especially Black. She endorsed gays during her career, I doubt she has a problem with Tyler's impression of a woman.
Miss Ross is nothing more than a two-dollar bill. From the Brewster projects with lots of junkies for relatives and went to Europe to have the systemic chemical treatment to whiten her skin with ten lbs. of yakki hair and that's the Diva? Then you can bow to that all day long, just one big Phony. By the way, Miss Ross is not Black anymore! She would kill for Tyler's talent. Move on Tyler, there are real actors out there that you should be using anyway.
5:18 So you believe her carefully crafted image over the words of people who personally knew her who said how vindictive, evil, and backstabbing she was?
She even made Florences funeral all about her. Going into the front of the church,acting a fool and causing a scene. Many reporters wrote how disgusted they were at the foolishness diana pulled at the funeral.
This woman truly cares about no one but her self.
If you truly feel that way I supposed over half of the music industry doesn't "deserve" your respect. After all, many of them fucked, sucked, and fondled their way to the top. At least some were attached to dignified African American entertainment, and not trying to coon with a cross-dressin' steppin' fetchit in the sunset of her life.
*Regarding all the negative comments*
beyonce if you're on this spread, this is your future. i advise you to straighten your shit up now because people don't forget. get it together.
Tyler Perry's Medea is funny, like Geraldine Jones was funny. The Kids in the Hall's female characters are funny, too. Meant to be funny. It's comedy. I laugh. That's all.
way way way way too much hair!
5:24 I remember watching that in a documentary, I think it was unsung. The bitch already stole the surpremes from florence. She couldnt even let florence have the spotlight at her own funeral smh.
@5:11 I don't know who you're referring to as "backtracking" but you appear to be mistaking my 5:10 comment for somebody else you were on here going and forth with, so i will dismiss you accusing me of supporting Beyonce. And i stand by what i said about respecting my elders.
Diana hasn't done anything to me personally for me to get on here and call her out of her name. So, i will end by saying you have your opinion/s and i have mine.
Peace!
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Tyler, she's not into you (or your films).
Keep it moving.---->
I like Tyler, but as someone else already posted "the Boss " has spoken. Being friends with Oprah or shaking hand with the President because he wants a check does not buy you credibility.
If you can make class and elegance in the mirror than Diana has it, otherwise, she's classless! Talk about her kindness to the gay community, they made her who she is today. As you can see, when you talk about Diana Ross, you get too many people into an uproar (with good reason, I might add). Team Tyler!
@5:36 exactly. theres a difference between a man who was homeless,working his way up into his own empire, and a woman who backstabs a friend who basically got your ass out of the projects.
@5:05pm (READ this sites Disclaimer)
Thank you, disrespect is what we do to celebs who forget who and what they did in their hay-day. Age has no limit when it comes to foolishness.
Now go drink a cup of STFU! and take your "feelings" to Hallmark.com and have a seat.
@6:40 Whatever gets you through the day. Please, knock yourself out. (I mean that in both the literal and figurative sense).
people remember the source the nation liar !! she would never talk with them...she is not hurting for money, so she doesnt have to do a movie..and how can she thinks he's low brow when she did a video full of drag queens dancing in the streets?
How did we go from Tyler Perry and Diana Ross to Beyonce?
These Bey stans are pathetic. I bet if they were actually on her payroll they wouldn't be bothered working this hard to rep her all over the internet.
Tyler's last movie sucked...watched it half way thru on bootleg. Madea aint funny anymore. Maybe he should invent another character....the dad/ uncle character was funny tho..when he was comparing if the white dude was his son. I think thats the only part I laughed at :(
I love how most of you people talk like you know this woman. She does not want to work with this coon!!! So fucking get over it!!!!
DIANA IS THE DIVA OF ALL DIVAS!
Madea's hair looks better than Diana's.
DIANA IS THE DIVA OF ALL DIVAS! FUCK WHAT YA HEARD
@7:09 Actually it was the tired ass haters, as usual, who brought up Beyonce. We were talking about the queen but leave it the the bitter bitch brigade to bring up the heiress to the throne.
aww fuq diana ross.
INTEGRITY>
this the same bitch who played dorothy in the wiz and she was 76 years old at the time.
integrity?
wasn't diana screwing berry gordy while he was married and had a child out of wedlock?
integrity>
isn't diana the same witch who would not help her friend and former group member who was living in poverty then tried to take center stage at her funeral?
eff diana "the albatross" ross and anyone who subscribes to this bullshit.
wasn't diana screwing berry gordy while he was married and had a child out of wedlock?
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while he was married? nooo, is that true?
So Diana Ross really 68...wow!!
8:22 100% true.
diana is terrible at singing,shes not exactly beautiful(flo was the prettiest imo), and her personality is mehh. she is a product of marketing.
yall r going off rumors started by haters. Hating aint nothing new, they was hating on Lady Di back then like some of yall r now. But guess what? Diana stay winning.
I heard Diana molested Micheal Jackson...the song "Dirty Diana" is about her...no wonder she didn't go to the funeral....molesters can be so cold hearted...I don't care how old she is she is still a bitch....
yall r going off rumors started by haters. Hating aint nothing new, they was hating on Lady Di back then like some of yall r now. But guess what? Diana stay winning.
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You need to read the book ALL that Glitters. Diana Ross was an evil hoe who sabotaged everyone else so she could get to the top. I hate the air that the ole drunk, sellout whore breathes. Beyonce followed in her footsteps to a tee.
I was watching an old movie from the 1930s the other day, with a typical "mammy" character who spent the whole time acting simple. Even the young children white children in the movie were portrayed to be smarter than her.
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Funny you say that...I was watching Imitation of Life on youtube yesterday, She told the Delilah that she would give her, her own house and car...She broke down and was no Ms. Bea can't Peola and I stay here with you, so I can take care of you.....it was truly sad to watch.
This is 8:12,
@8:22, yes it is true. Look at her oldest and see the resemblance. She is lower than low.
Then she tried to be a diva and would not share center stage with Mary Wilson. Killed the proposed tour because of her childish behavior. Then she wants to touch Perry.
Again I say Eff Diana.
.I was watching Imitation of Life on youtube yesterday
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That was a sad movie the black girl passing(pretending) to be white,was so ashamed of her mother for her color,she would yell at her mother for being dark...the poor mother just took the abuse..she didn't even go to her mothers funeral cause she was ashamed....that movie makes me so sad...
I DON'T GET ON THESE BLOGS AND SPOUT BS
THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE NOT HATERADE
LOOK AT DIANA'S KIDS AND SEE WHIVH ONE LOOKS LIKE BERRY GEE
REGARDLESS DIANA NEEDS TO WORK
AIN'T NO OTHER PRODUCERS CHECKING FOR HER
Diana is who she is good and bad
One thing she can act Lady sing the blues is a classic
TV movies: mental ill lady,
Brandy movie double plantium and other movies
Problem Tyler makes to many Madea movies
Remember Diana comes from the era where she knows the history of buffonery and the disrepect of blacks
On the chiltin circuit road trips and not being able to sleep where you just performed that evening.
Even the jackson five had to deal with some that in the very begining of their careers
This why blacks were proud of the jackson five because they were broke thru everything. The jacksons like all motown groups were crossover hits But the jackson five were just so special ask you parents or your grandparents or remember yourselves
Berry gordy was slime but he put his singer in charm grooming and interview skills And taught them class.
Diana is a great actress she along with whitney
are great in their movies
They are only two black female singers who hold their own and can be taken serious. Janet is different she been acting since she was a kid.
And was a actress first.
As some one above said no producer checking for her
she can do what wants whether it a movie, tv show, or live life. He is the one that asking her. who's doing the begging
As said he makes to many madea movies, he is only going to be remembered for madea and not for colored girls, why did i get married and when he trys to be serious it. His serious movies are not critical success or respected. he made most of his money of madea first.
This is the issue spike and others have a problem have. Spike can't get help or money for his movies. Because he might upset someone with a movie of substance. But new lion studios gave money too tyler to start his business because of the type of movies he made and continues to make. do you diana
10:09 dont u dare put whitney and dianas name in the same sentence.
whitney had talent,real style and grace. she can SING.she was gorgeous.
diana cannot sing.below average looking. terribly personality.diva behavior.
Oh yeah i would not believe everything that comes from the gossip papers. But on this issues i bet u that what she really thinks I don't want to work with him.
The word for diana is class when it comes to acting
Her and berry both step on motown singers back
This why half of them sued him or died broke because of his contracts. He put flo ballard on the skid row as soon as fired her go with no money and gave no royalty money, glady knight had to fight for their money, martha reaves who put motown on the map sued him.
The jackson five could even use the jackson five name because he owned the name. that half of his crimes against the singers. the only one made good was smokie.
the wiz was bad but she did her thing in all the other tv movies and show, big screen movies
NATIONAL ENQUIRE?
TRANSLATION: LIES
11:05pm on up:
what the fuck is this shit?
Diana must have gotten pissed when she came here and read all of this and must have instructed the owner of the sight to "post a distraction"
Meanwhile all christians are still praying enmass, begging their god to pick it up and heal it back on.
Praying can continue until the volunteer either bleeds to death or is treated by a DR.
The volunteer will NOT be healed. GUARANTEED.
Testimonials about this or that christian who had cancer, or someone's heart condition, or any church members cirrhosis of the liver etc etc etc, who were healed through prayer are just worthless testimonials.
None of that was visible. If It can't be seen it can't be proven. Testifying is meaningless. Proof must be visible to one and all..
Blind faith is meaningless and useless. There are two kinds of faith, demonstrated faith such as faith that your car will start because it always has, and blind faith such as belief in witches or goblins.
6. Christians claim they have a loving god, yet according to their own bible, their god slaughtered all the first born babies in Egypy one night, then slaughtered all the fist born animals too for good measure.
7. Also according to the bible the bible god slaughtered the entire population of the planet including all children, all babies, even all plants and animals.
This is a god to worship?
8. Christians blame free will for bad things that happen, but free will is is a false premise.
Heres why:
Chirstians claim thier god is all powerful and all knowing. If thats true the bible god knows in advance what all 6. 7 billion people on the planet will do....... before they do it.
No one has the option to change that which their god knows IN ADVANCE.... (Remember god is ALL KNOWING) that they will do.
If god is NOT all knowing then he has to sit back and wonder what each person will do next. In that case, god cannot be all knowing.
So either the bible god knows in advance what each of us will do, or he cannot be all knowing.
9. Christians claim they have a superenatural god but the only way to prove that is to ahve their god appear in person.
10. It is imcumbent on christians to actually prove this claim. I can claim that god Vishnew created everything. My claim has the same credibility as yours......... Exactly zero ......unless one of us can actually produce our god in person.
Neither one of us can do that because all gods are make believe. All are imaginary. Christers only hae a make believe god.
laugh at people who believe in God, how weak are your minds to believe such bullshimus?
Reason 1. Theodice problem (If the evil in the world is intended by God he is not good. If it violates his intentions he is not almighty. God can't be both almighty and good. There are many objections to this, but none that holds since God is ultimately responsible for the existence of evil. Besides, if only God can create he must have created evil. If somebody else (the devil) created evil, how can one know that God, and not Satan created the universe?)
Reason 2. Heisenburg's uncertainty principle. (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle applies only to humans, since we a restricted to only one dimension of time. God, existing in two or more dimensions of time can know all properties of all particles, since He can exist at any point on our line of time any numbers of times. Therefore, God can measure both the position of a particle, remain at the same point on our line of time, then measure the speed of the same particle. Two dimensions of time allow one to do some pretty awesome things. Think about the implications of this characteristic of God.)
Reason 3. God cannot be almighty and allow free well at the same time (Besides there can exist no free wills at all if God is almighty. If you had a free will, God wouldn't know what you would do tomorrow and wouldn't be omnipotent.)
How might we prove that God is imaginary? One way would be to find a contradiction between the definition of God and the God we experience in the real world.
What would happen if we get down on our knees and pray to God in this way:
Dear God, almighty, all-powerful, all-loving creator of the universe, we pray to you to cure every case of cancer on this planet tonight. We pray in faith, knowing you will bless us as you describe in Matthew 7:7, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 11:24, John 14:12-14, Matthew 18:19 and James 5:15-16. In Jesus' name we pray, Amen.
We pray sincerely, knowing that when God answers this completely heartfelt, unselfish, non-materialistic prayer, it will glorify God and help millions of people in remarkable ways.
Will anything happen? No. Of course not.
This is very odd. Jesus makes specific promises in the Bible about how prayer is supposed to work. Jesus says in many different places that he and God will answer your prayers. And Christians believe Jesus -- according to this recent article, "54% of American adults believe the Bible is literally true." In some areas of the country the number goes as high as 75%.
If the Bible is literally true, then something is seriously amiss. Simply look at the facts. In Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:
Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!
If "every one who asks receives", then if we ask for cancer to be cured, it should be cured. Right? If "our Father who is in heaven gives good things to those who ask him", then if we ask him to cure cancer, he should cure it. Right? And yet nothing happens.
In Matthew 17:20 Jesus says:
For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.
If "nothing will be impossible to you", then if we ask to cure cancer tonight, cancer should disappear. Right? Yet nothing happens. Note that if we take the Bible less-than-literally here, the statement "nothing will be impossible to you" becomes "lots of things will be impossible to you," and that would mean that Jesus is lying.
In Matthew 21:21:
I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.
If "you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer", then if we ask to cure cancer tonight, cancer should dissappear. Right? Yet nothing happens. Note again that there is not a non-literal way to interpret "you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer", unless you replace "whatever" with "nothing" or "little."
The message is reiterated Mark 11:24:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
If God says, "believe that you have received it, and it will be yours," and if we believe in God and his power, then what should happen if we pray to cure cancer tonight? It should be cured. Either that, or God is lying.
In John chapter 14, verses 12 through 14, Jesus tells all of us just how easy prayer can be:
"I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
Look at how direct this statement is: "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." This is the "Son of God" speaking. Have we taken him "too literally?" No. This is a simple, unambiguous statement. Have we taken his statement "out of context?" No - Jesus uses the word anyone. Yet Jesus' statement is obviously false. Because when we ask God to cure cancer tonight, nothing happens.
We see the same thing over and over again...
In Matthew 18:19 Jesus says:
Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
In James 5:15-16 the Bible says:
And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.
In Mark 9:23:
All things are possible to him who believes.
In Luke 1:37:
For with God nothing will be impossible.
Nothing could be simpler or clearer than Jesus' promises about prayer in the Bible. Yet, when we pray to eliminate cancer, nothing happens.
And keep in mind that this is Jesus talking here. These are not the words of human beings. These are not the words of "inspired" human beings. These are supposedly the words of God himself, incarnated in a human body. Jesus is supposed to be a perfect, sinless being. And yet, it is obvious that Jesus is lying. What Jesus says is clearly incorrect.
Jesus is supposed to be God. God is supposed to be perfect.
When Jesus speaks, he should speak the truth.
Yet when we look at what Jesus says about prayer,
he is clearly lying.
If you would like additional proof, gather a million faithful believers together into a giant prayer circle. Have them all pray together in Jesus' name that God cures every case of cancer on the planet tomorrow. Pray sincerely, knowing that when God answers this completely heartfelt, unselfish, non-materialistic prayer, it will glorify God and help millions of people in remarkable ways. Now, we certainly have two or more people gathered together, and they have asked in Jesus' name, and we have not one but a million faithful believers who, by definition, have faith and believe. We have fulfilled every one of Jesus' requirements.
Will Jesus answer the prayer now? Of course not. Your prayer will go unanswered, in direct defiance to Jesus' promises in the Bible. In fact, if you pray for anything that is impossible, your prayer will always go unanswered.
If you are an intelligent, rational human being, all of the examples mentioned above show you that the God of the Bible is imaginary. The Bible clearly promises that God answers prayers. Yet when we pray, nothing happens (for a complete discussion proving that nothing happens, please see this page). What Jesus says about prayer in the Bible clearly is not true. Therefore, one of two things must be happening:
God is imaginary.God does exist, but he never answers prayers. Unfortunately, God is defined by the Bible to be a prayer-answering being. The contradiction between the reality of God and the definition of God proves that God is imaginary.
@11:35 "YE OF SO LITTLE FAITH"~GOD
Jesus is supposed to be God. God is supposed to be perfect.
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Jesus AND GOD ARE TWO DIFFERENT entities
@2:24 everyone in the world knows Dirty Diana is a whore who slept her way to the top and climbed over the backs of the other people on her label to get there.
I've met the bitch. That's why I can call her a BITCH.
No I was not dissing Whitney
I said Whitney and diana were two black pop singers who were great actors and get respect
especially within the last forty years. Diana started entire ball rolling for pop singers/rappers crossing over to film. And whitney did very well also
I am not talking about people like Diahann Carrol or Dorthy Dandridge now that class they had work thru alot bs and every one diahann carrol also was a first with TV show JULIA and put up with alot racism because that show
Whitney: louretta devine, angela bassist,Kevin costner
Diania: academy, oscar nomination, and other actors
It not like I put beyonce in the same acting field as Whitney. now that who u have to be worried about being in the same sentenace with whitney
I am not talking about the voices i am talking about their perfomances in movies and believe me when it comes to acting beyonce she should not be mention with either one.
Whitney is a singer
Dina has pop voice her voice that barely makes it. but she had what they call that it factor along with berry backing her
Her greasy ass has no room to talk. Fuck Ms. Ross.
@11:25 AKA the immoral God-basher
Um we left that issue a couple of posts down. Agree to disagree. You use certain bible verses (out of context) to further your argument the same way some Christian fundamentalists use bible verses (again, out of context) to further their argument. Neither of you are reading the bible properly and cannot completely understand Yah's true intentions. Parts of the Bible are parables, metaphorical, and others are absolutely blunt. Be blind to it if you must.
JULIA was a show briefly on in the late 60 or early 70's was not on that long research it i am not sure if late 60 or early 70's But diahann carroll came along in the 40's and 50's era
Diana started acting in the mid to late 70's
So dianna was the first generation to break out of the worst racial backlash. It was still bad but not so out in open but black people could speak up and say no to mamie, stepin and fetch it roles. or take any thing and shut up
Take your bible writing ass to slept,or get some dick nd smoke some weed then o to bed,with all that bullshit. Oh and to that idiot,Whitney and Diana can go in the same sentence. They were both fiends
Regardless how you feel people, Diana is an icon Tyler wants to be. His movies is all I expect out of a country ass faggot from Atlanta,Georgia. Whitney is gone... No need to bring her in the equation, real talk.my mother who is a ex black panther couldn't not stand Tyler and I understand why, meet the browns. Enough said,buffoonery at its best. If you think Tyler is funning. I guess you think niggas hanging from trees is a riot. Smdh. Black people what happen to your back bone? We went from the Cosbys and different world to single ladies(one black woman on that bitch) and shit like basketball wives?
@2:03 thats right...old givin head to the boss and three baby daddy havin heffa! now she think she snaaaaaaaaaaaazzy!
But the truth is--I don't think any top-notch black entertainer will do a TP movie. For the fear of backlash. Besides like sooo many other said, it for the NE mag...C'mon Son!! They throw so many stories out, that one in a few thousand are even true. It's funny how ppl defend to death person they don't know...LOL... (both Ross and Perry)like they getting paid. Anyway, they have more money then I will more than likely EVER have,so...
Will the Ross children remove themselves from this thread, please? And take the ANON-a.k.a.-ANN poster with you and all her lame religious theories.
@12:32am LMAO...
@9:30am ... Unfortunately, top-notch black actresses have been in his films. I heard Cicely Tyson was in one of his films and I think she's the greatest, most accomplished, black actress alive.
This is what angers me the most about TP. He can make a movie showcasing an older black woman played by HIM (Medea), but he won't make a film about an older black woman played by an older black woman (i.e., Cicely Tyson, Dianne Carrol, Diana Ross). At best, our talented older black actresses get secondary roles in his films.
"Dang Diana, if you felt that way, you should have kept it to yourself. Nothing worse than having a favorite star, meeting them just to find out they are a b!tch. Tyler admired you and you call all his hard work 'cheesy'? I am hoping this isn't true. If it is, Diana - one word - CLASSLESS!!"
I come here to read the comments but never comment, but this comment was right on and speak the truth, classless is the best.
@5:53p, you are absolutely right " Being friends with Oprah or shaking hand with the President because he wants a check does not buy you credibility.", Having $600m in the bank does!
You youngsters really have to know your freaking history and why Dianna does not want to represent bafoonery! She and many others fought hard to represent Black America in the best light on screen and to see a Black man get in a dress in this century is heartbreaking to those who fought and gave their lives for you ungrateful little pukes. I totally understand Dianna, and I am only 28. I see why she does not want any parts of this mess.He can't even produce a good movie without a dress on. How many more Madeas can we take? Come on we have to stop letting filthy Hollywood put our Black men in dresses. Hell where is JAMES EVANS type men?
Tyler is a safe negro who does not irritate the man because he is too busy being a woman. Dianna knows this and so does all of the other old school Blacks. Its just you dummys who cant catch on
Dd Perry have z dress on in Good Deeds? In Why Did I Get Married 1 & 2? In order films? The man does not wear a dress in every film.
You are too young your damn self to be in your twenties talking about what a sacrifice was made. I'd love to stick my fist down your throat and make your punk ass puke.
If you are black and successful off making that type of buffoonery...then I PASS. Middle fingers up to Tyler Fairy and two thumbs up to Tha Boss, Ms. Ross!!
ms ross is so over. why would u want to work with that bitch. she cant act....singing is just so so...she is mean to all women....she need to take that big ass bird nest off her head
Good for Ms. Ross...she don't need to coon it up for nobody.
PEOPLE, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO REALIZE THIS IS THE NATIONAL INQUIRER?!!! DON'T BELIEVE THE COMMENTS PLANTED ON THIS SITE.
DO IT, DIANA! DO IT! I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU IN A TYLER PERRY MOVIE. IT WOULD BE MOMENTOUS!!!
Diane is an old hoe who is hoping you'll forget and buy into the talented diva persona Gordy crafted for her in the 60's and 70's.
Diane go drink and drive some more.
Until , young Black Americans remember how to have honor, class, respect, intelligence, and use reverance towards our elders, we will be lost. Blacks used to be so classy! in the 1950's over 95% of Black children were born into marriages but now we have you all who dont know who the hell you are and it shows in your posts. I bet you any amount of money that all of the ignorant and foolish comments come from fatherless kids on here who's daddy was really section 8 and Foodstamps. You can tell the difference from people who were raised in love and those who were nut babys. There is a major difference in how the two think and act. You can't help it, your a product of your mother and father's one night stand or shacking situation. I feel so sorry for our people because if your the future then we are lost. You have to find a better way to carry yourselves because the ignorance is too much.
Tyler Perry is a idiot and so are all the people that watch his stupid ass movies so props.
Tyler Perry is the worst thing that happened to black people since slavery so thank the lord people realizing it.
Tyler Perry's net worth is worth more than Diana's. She is low brow to him.
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