Monday, October 08, 2012

Michael Winans Jr. Pleads Guilty

Michael Winans Jr. of the Winans gospel family has pleaded guilty to defrauding investors in an $8 million Ponzi scheme...

Last month Michael Winans was accused of using his church connections to find investors for phony Saudi Arabian crude oil bonds [click here if you missed that].

Michael pleaded guilty in Federal court last week and faces up to 20 years in prison at his sentencing Feb. 27.

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

Next up: Winans prison ministry.

The Frustrated Recluse said...

Got greedy and got caught. Oh well, my nigga

AnRnBThug said...

Listen everybody, all this God this and God that is nothing but a controlling mechanism. In reality we don’t know where the hell we came from who God is, what God is or where the we go when we die. NOT one person can prove otherwise…sadly. Humans have a desperate need to define their existence. Stories that are found in the Bible were written thousands of years before in Egyptian Hieroglyphs and I’m sure in their Libraries which were conveniently destroyed by Romans.

Check This Video Out Below: YOU MUST LEARN

Click Here Jesus vs Horus

Church is a BUSINESS now. These People claiming to have the knowledge to bring you closer with “God” are FAKE. They are Humans and make the same mistakes we do, have the same thoughts
and in some cases worse than us.

Anonymous said...

People may be fake, but God isn't. My belief/faith remains the same. I don't follow man

Anonymous said...

I agree 100% with 11:38. GOD is real.

AnRnBThug said...

Again, People need to READ and open their minds
Just cause ya Mama told you something doesn’t mean it’s real.

read this article….There is weird stuff being found out there

http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/is-the-universe-a-computer-new-evidence-emerges

Are we living in a Computer Game from there future? Interesting stuff

AnRnBThug said...

Another Interesting Video by Dr. Dates

Dr Gates Video

Anonymous said...

Again, God is real! People are fake, but He isn't. Just because some atheist yahoo printed it doesn't make this new age crap real/authentic. As hard as it may be for some to believe, faith and having a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus is not just something "mama told you" about. It is an experience one finds out for him/herself. Thanks 11:42.

Anonymous said...

This stupid guy deserves just what he gets. It is written, "Man will deceive"..... sMH. Really, this guy has proven to be lazy and shady. Way to go, Jr.

AnRnBThug said...

Last Video and I’m one…LOL
Must See Video

Tracy said...

@12:07- Blasphemy...Christian theology condemns blasphemy. It is spoken of in Mark 3:29, where blaspheming the Holy Spirit is spoken of as unforgivable—the eternal sin.

However, there is dispute over what form this blasphemy may take and whether it qualifies as blasphemy in the conventional sense; and over the meaning of "unforgivable".

In 2 Kings 18, the Rabshakeh gave the word from the king of Assyria, dissuading trust in the Lord, asserting that God is no more able to deliver than all the gods of the land. In Matthew 9:2, Jesus spoke the words "Your sins are forgiven you"; He was accused of blasphemy, since only God can forgive sins, although Christians believe that Jesus is God and hence entitled to do so.

174 Bible Verses about Blasphemy....
Mark 3:29 ESV

But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—

Luke 12:10 ESV

And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

Revelation 13:6 ESV

It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven.

Luke 12:10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven,
but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.


The Unpardonable sin of Blasphemy Against the Holy Ghost (Matthew 12:31-32 Luke 12:10 Mark
3:29) Luke 12:10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will.

Hell has a passion for your soul!











AnRnBThug said...

@12:28
So People in the Amazon Jungle miss out on "Jesus" and Heaven just cause of where they were born? It's an arrogant misleading futile concept.

AnRnBThug said...

@12:49
Stop quoting stolen ideas, theologies and stories. The Bible’s content is clearly reproduced and it has no content or input from
Black People cause we had our OWN way which was Supreme Spirituality. Being one with your Ancestors & The Mother Earth

Tracy said...

God Is Real And Died For The Sins Of The World...

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.

Why do people not believe in God?.....


I believe that that people deny God on the basis of convenience; if there is no God than there is no such thing as truth or as moral laws.

A person's denial of God allows them to do whatever they want. I also believe people don't want to be accountable for what they do.

If someone is raised in a household where God is never discussed or mentioned, it can be very hard to suddenly accept a new way of thinking, no matter who you are. Also, Religion is based on Faith, which is not a material object. You can't see it, touch it, measure it, hear it or feel it. For people who are used to the term "seeing is believing" meaning they must physically see things to believe they exist, faith can be quite a hard concept to understand!
What is Faith?

Hebrews 11:1 NIV Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
Bible Verse about Faith and Hope
1 Peter 1:21 NIV Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.


Bible Verse on Faith in Jesus and Hope in God
1 Peter 1:7 NIV These have come so that your faith?of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire?may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.


Bible Verse on Faithfulness
Colossians 2:12 NIV having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.

Bible Verse about faith in the power of God
2 Corinthians 5:7 NIV We live by faith, not by sight.














Anonymous said...

^^^Only to you. What is an actual MISLEADING futile concept is this new age jargon you are obviously promoting.

Tracy said...

@12:28...Never Argue With a Demon..

God Bless.. These Devils Will Be Sorry!

Anonymous said...

I believe that that people deny God on the basis of convenience; if there is no God than there is no such thing as truth or as moral laws.

A person's denial of God allows them to do whatever they want. I also believe people don't want to be accountable for what they do.
So true.

Anonymous said...

I am glad this guy was found out. I am happy for the fact that the so called Bishop (fag on the DL) was found out. "I shall separate the wheat from the taft". I hope this dude gets all 20 plus years for committing such a fraud. He deserves it.

A person's denial of God allows them to do whatever they want and not be accountable. TRUE!! That is why this RnB(utt)Plug is promoting this new age spaceship crap on this site. As someone said before, God is real. People are fake. Christianity is real. However, there is no doubt we have an abundance of fake Christians and they will get theirs before it's all said and done.

Anonymous said...

One can believe in what or whom they wish. I am all for that. After all, HE said "whosoever will, let him come". He is not forcing Himself on anyone. He made the choice...yours. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Made it clear. There is not a soul He cannot reach. I don't look to man either. We are sinful creatures who are bound to fall at some point in our lives. But, that is why we have a Saviour. He is more than what your parents told you about, or some Sunday school lesson. He is real. Alive and well. I personally don't care who does what. Nothing will turn me away from the Lord, Mary's Baby, the Holy Trinity, etc. As for this young man, it is good he was found out and will pay the piper. He should. I have no sympathy for him at all. He knowingly cheated people out of their money. He has a hard lesson to learn. I hope he would be unlike Eddie Long and humble himself and apologize (at least) for his actions. That so called Bishop has yet to even show any type of remorse for his disgusting behavior. SMH. I tell you. We are living in the last days.

Tracy said...

@1:20 I agree 100% Well Said God Bless!

AnRnBThug said...

@1:20
Thanks for your highly retarded feedback.
Listen, all I’m trying to say to you is OPEN YOUR MINDS. You can choose to believe whatever the hell you want. But with a closed minded outlook on things Humans will never continue to progress in all aspects. If you wanna believe shit that was written by Europeans 2000 years ago so be it. (Brain Washed assholes) At least follow what Africans were doing 2000 years ago…at least. (makes more sense to me) Without opening your minds Humans would have never discovered cures, space travel, new words, computers etc etc. Why because they would have said: “it can’t be done….it’s HAS to be this way” Truth be told we are evolving, hopefully becoming smarter. You have a right to question everything. All that Mumbo Jumbo you quote means nothing cause you only have YOUR (or whoever taught you) interpretation of it. Again, you
can’t provide one inkling of proof of what youre saying. NOT ONE, and your “feelings/faith” don’t count.

Anonymous said...

RnB, there is no proof of the nonsense you are promoting either. Providing links, quotes, or posting references of what some other mere mortal is produced is only based on what their interpretation of what they believe is the truth. Perhaps you need to take your own advice and open your mind to the fact that these "brain washed a$$holes" chose to believe because of what they know, not because of what someone told them. As mentioned, one can only get to know HIM for themselves. I did not have a preacher, teacher to tell me that He is REAL. He did that HIMSELF. You continue to look to man to validate your nonsense. You continue to look to man to PROVE there is nothing to Christianity and that God doesn't exist. That is your choice. I am not trying to convince you He is real and you are certainly wasting your time in trying to convince to He is not. No interest in reading the jargon, lies of some alleged dr or any other new age nonsense. What one chooses to believe and hold stedfast to should not concern you. Again, HE said "Whosever will let him come". Meaning, He gave you the choice. You choose not to follow, fine.

Anonymous said...

4:01 All part of the NWO agenda. Evolution, Big Bang Theory, Gay Pride, etc. Anything to remove God from our hearts and minds and some idiots are falling for it wholeheartedly. It is written that we were created in HIS image fearfully and wonderfully made. Man says we evolve from dang chimps. God speaks against homosexuality. Man claims it is religious "homophobia" and that gay is ok and that it is normal. Big Bang Theory is just that...a theory on how the earth/universe came to be, once again exluding GOD. There was even a debate about removing "one nation under GOD" out of the pledge of allegiance. Regardless of how often the Bible has been written, or interpreted, or how false some so called Christians have proven to be, God is still alive and well. He is REAL. People like this guy and Bishop Down Low makes me furious. Bishop needs to step down. He knew he was wrong to be engaging in relations with anyone besides his wife and still have the audacity to stand in the pulpit and "preach" to his congregation. Intergrity is something he obviously knows nothing about as with this young fellow. I don't care what anyone else does or is caught doing, they are the frauds...not Christ.

AnRnBThug said...

@4:01

Humans been on the Earth for Tens of thousands of years and all of a sudden "Christianity" (a made up religion Jesus has ZERO knowledge about cause He was a Jew) is the way to live...
#Please

Fyi - The “feeling” you had was constipation

Tracy said...

Exodus 20:15 "You shall not steal,Especially From God's People.

Thou shalt not steal - This command forbids us to rob ourselves of what we have, by sinful spending, or of the use and comfort of it by sinful sparing; and to rob others by invading our neighbour's rights, taking his goods, or house, or field, forcibly or clandestinely, over - reaching in bargains, not restoring what is borrowed or found, with - holding just debts, rents or wages; and, which is worst of all, to rob the public in the coin or revenue, or that which is dedicated to the service of religion.


Anonymous said...

The Bible is 100% real. a BLACK HISTORY DOCUMENT. it backs up true history of how all the nations on earth fucked up and came against The Israelites (blacks,hispanics and native american people) for thousands of years. now Christianity is muthafucking Lie. stolen concepts from ancient egptians. THE VIRGIN BIRTH,THE TRINITY,THE RAPTURE and THE JESUS IS GOD concept is straight lies.

Anonymous said...

RnB I guess you would never have to worry about constipation, huh? Childish responds....typical. Christianity is of being Christlike and Christians know Jesus is Jewish. He was even referred and hailed as King of the Jews. This is of someone you don't even believe exist yet you know he is Jewish. Again, it is something you obviously know nothing of so I would not expect the likes of you to even begin to fathom what I experienced. Shows in your childish response. People were on the earth prior to Jesus' birth. Kinda got an idea of how long we have been here. Several religions have been "made up". Kabbalah, Scientology, Wiccan, Catholic, New age, etc. I can assure you Jesus would have "no knowledge" of New age jargon either. But, that is the way to live...according to you, huh? Right.

Anonymous said...

5:59 RnB, no need to post anonymously. What is a lie is this New age nonsense. All lies!!!!

Anonymous said...

Whether you believe in Christ/God or not is your choice. After all, as stated, He said "Whosoever will let him come". However, one should be considerate of other people beliefs and not try to force feed their "discoveries" on anyone else. Church may have just become "business" to some and that is a shame. The love of money seems to have reared its ugly head in the church and quite frankly it has been there for a while. In chuch, one will find homos, lesbians, adulterers, etc. No one is perfect and if you are looking to man to lead the way, you are already lost. Man is an imperfect creature and will lie and deceive you. Just because these crooks, undercover down low brothers are found out doesn't mean He is not real (my faith) and there is nothing that would change my mind about that. NOTHING.

Anonymous said...

Man, I tell you. Seeing this story about this young man doing something so sad is just pathetic. Someone commented about him being lazy and I agree. He did not have to resort to conning people to get a dollar. He deserves what he gets. Many are going to fall because of their love for money and deceiving people for monetary gain and they should fall hard. What is done in the dark will come to the light. People like this makes me sick.

Anonymous said...

brotherman goin to prison.

thou shalt not steal.

Anonymous said...

@ 6:08pm you a dumbass. im not him. the bible is black history and if yo ass is any other race you mind as well live it up here on earth no before the Messiah comes back.

Anonymous said...

christians dont know anything. Calling a hebrew savior by a greek name. Jesus? There is no letter J in the Hebrew,Latin, or greek alphabet. jesus is not even in the original KJV 1611 bible. christians tell that all the laws are done away with smh wrong. they lie and celebrate the fake pagan holidays instead of the biblical holiday like The Christ did with his desciples. christians teach they follow The Messiah. wrong again. they follow the white image of jesus who real name in history is Cesare Borgia. The Bible is about ISRAELITES not CHRISTIANS. the word christian is only in the bible 3 times. look up the word CRETIN. thats what a christian is.

Anonymous said...

R&B Thug is on point with everything he said. It may be hard to accept, but everything he posted is true. The Bible is a retelling of older stories from earlier civilizations, mainly Kemetic (Egyptian) and Sumerian. I was raised upon the Christian faith, and when I found out these things, I was devastated. But if you KNOW something, there's no need to BELIEVE anything. If you connect the dots, you'll find out that the Jesus you've been worshiping is a mixture of Cesare Borgia, like 8:16 pm said, Julius Caesar (Colossians 4:11), and Ptolemy I Soter. Peace and blessings, everyone.

Tracy said...

Where Do People Go When They Die Without Christ?

Remember when Jesus was on the cross with the two on either side? Jesus told the one that he would be with Him in Paradise that day.

When we die we go directly to heaven or hell. Without Jesus you go to hell.

Those without Christ go into God's custody to await the Final Judgement. They are fully aware of their true awful state.

They do not sleep as you suppose.

Their knowledge of their corrupt and sinful state, so veiled and dulled by their fleshly existence will be fully, searingly known with no possible means of relief or reduction.

You do not know for certain the state of your best friend since you do not fully know what may have occurred between him and the Lord before he passed that point at which his state was sealed.

People observing from afar, one of the two malefactors crucified with Christ, might have concluded he was lost, especially since he at first reviled against Christ, but we have the assurance of Christ's own words that he turned and was saved at the last. From afar they would not have known what took place between the malefactor and Christ.

Of course it is unwise to put off and rely upon last minute opportunities, but, in the mercy of God, there are such possibilities.

That Christ paid such an infinite and supreme price, to suffer the full punishment of Hell to provide for all and any that they might be saved, and that He expressly stated He came to seek and to save the lost, is grounds sufficient to assure that God deals in superabundant love and goodness toward all.

We are not in the best position if we judge by appearance only and lack a full and clear knowledge of all God's dealings with an individual, most if not all must surely be hidden from us.

It would be sad and foolish for any to fail of God's provision for them on a mistaken or ignorant assumption concerning His dealings with another.


Anonymous said...

read the bible and you can clearly see that ALL RELIGION IS BULLSHIT. The Black Man,Woman,and child ruled the earth. Adam and Eve were the first black people. but they werent the only people on earth at that time but religion tells you that. we only been on this earth thousands of years Like The bible says. all that 'we been on earth millions of years' is a lie. white man made that shit up. dinosaurs were on earth when people walked the earth. thats in the bible too. white man lied and said other wise. religion messes you up. The Bible plus true history clears that mess up.

Tracy said...

How does the Bible explain the creation of the first people?

The Bible says that "In the beginning" God created the heavens and the earth(Genesis 1:1), so at some point in the very distant past, possibly millions of years, God created the physical universe, including earth, sun, stars, etc. (Genesis 1:2)

Then, just over 6000years ago, God started preparing the earth for habitation(Genesis1:3-19), and then began creating life to go on it, starting with the animals (Genesis 1:20-25). Once everything was in place, God created the first man from the dust of the ground (the term 'human' comes from the Greek 'Humus' meaning "earth..soil'), and 'blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living soul". (Genesis 1:26-28). He was called Adam and is the original ancestor of everyone on the planet ("He made out of one man, every nation of men, to dwell upon the surface of the earth".

Acts 17:26)
After some time, during which Adam named all the animals around him (Genesis 2:18-20), God created a partner for Adam, out of one of Adam's ribs(Genesis 2:21&22). This is indicated by Adam's own words when he saw Eve for the first time. He said "This is at last, bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh, This one will be called woman, because from MAN this one was taken".

Adam named his wife, Eve, because she "had to become the mother of everyone living"(Genesis 3:20) , and soon she started doing just that, by giving birth to Cain and Able(Genesis 4:1) and many other children(Genesis 5:1-5) from whose lines we all come, down to this day.

Tracy said...

Who Wrote the Bible - Evidence of Divine Inspiration

“Who wrote the Bible” is a question that can be definitively answered by examining the biblical texts in light of the external evidences that supports its claims. 2 Timothy 3:16 states that “All scripture is inspired by God….”

In 2 Peter 1:20-21, Peter reminds the reader to “know this first of all, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, … but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.” The Bible itself tells us that it is God who is the author of His book.

God does not leave us with just claims of His divine handiwork in the Bible, but also supports it with compelling evidence. The design of the Bible itself is a miracle. Written over more than 1,500 years by vastly different writers, yet every book in the Bible is consistent in its message.

These 66 books talk about history, prophecy, poetry, and theology. Despite their complexity, differences in writing styles and vast time periods, the books of the Bible agree miraculously well in theme, facts and cross-referencing.

No human beings could have planned such an intricate combination of books over a 1,500-year time span. Bible manuscripts (remember, there were no printing presses until 1455) have survived despite weather, persecution and time. Most ancient writings written on weak materials like papyrus have vanished all together.

Yet many copies of the Old Testament scriptures survived.
For instance, the Dead Sea Scrolls contain all books of the Old Testament, except Esther, and have been dated to before the time of Christ.

Consider Julius Caesar’s Gallic Wars. Only ten copies written about 1,000 years after the event are in existence. In comparison, there are over 24,000+ New Testament manuscripts, the earliest one dating to within 24 years after Christ.

Anonymous said...

Tracy I suggest you get the real bible KJV 1611 edition. Its way more than just 66 books. Constantine took books of out the bible at the council of nicea and pretty much started christianity. and there are more scriptures that backs up those books as well.
l.

Anonymous said...

Maybe he'll find true love while he's lock up. He'll have the pick of the litter.

Bee Gee said...

I'ont fuck with church niggas. They be the shadiest..

Tracy said...

Anonymous said...
Tracy I suggest you get the real bible KJV 1611 edition. Its way more than just 66 books. Constantine took books of out the bible at the council of nicea and pretty much started christianity. and there are more scriptures that backs up those books as well.
l.
2:40 AM
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I have a copy of KJV 1611 and have read all 66 books! I suggest that you get right with Christ before it's to late.

Tracy said...

I do not care what anyone says God is real and faithful. I will continue to quote scriptures from the inspiration of our heavenly father THE "HOLY BIBLE".

The Demons and devils have already lost their souls so their soul can't be saved.

The Authorized King James Version (KJV) of 1611, Pure ... I quote other editions with the same information because "some people" do not understand KJV..,but NIV, ESV... is easier for people to understand.





Tracy said...

<< Revelation 22:19 >>

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

New International Version...
And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.
Proverbs 30:6 Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.

If any man shall take away - If any man shall lessen this meaning, curtail the sense, explain away the spirit and design, of these prophecies, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, etc. Thus Jesus Christ warns all those who consider this book to beware of indulging their own conjectures concerning it.

Enough Said God Bless!









Anonymous said...

Jesus is God's SUN (no misspelling).

AnRnBThug said...

To all the Badly Brain Washed People…..(Tracy)


http://notesfromthewilderness.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/modern-name-jesus-not-found-in-1611-kjv/

Anonymous said...

UMMM The NIV and ESV remove complete verses out their versions. so if you cant understand old english from KING JAMES then oh well. There is nothing wrong with The ORIGINAL KJV so why keep making millions of fucking translations. The scriptures are simple.

Anonymous said...

I am right with The Most High who name is AHAYAH and The Messiah YASHAYA who you fake ass christians ignorantly call Jesus Christ. The Lord aint dealing with you simple christians muthafuckas. I keep the laws,statues and commandments. You christians teach that it was nailed to the cross smh. wrong. The Messiah was hung and slew on a tree just like the black folks did back in slavery. The white man threw words like cross,jesus,jerusalem into the the bible.I keep the holydays and not holidays. Im still married to my muthafucking husband. i never broke that marriage covenant. You can quote scriptures and gospel verses all day.

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