Tuesday, July 16, 2013

LL Shades Jay Z's Magna Carta Record Sales


Jay Z's new album Magna Carta Holy Grail went platinum on its first day of sales thanks to a deal with Samsung that gave the album away for free to the first one million people who downloaded a Samsung smartphone app [click here if you missed that].

LL Cool J is not here for Jay Z's manufactured record sales...

LL tells Diddy's Revolt TV
“Numbers are Numbers. In the numbers is truth, but in terms of touching the people it’s a little different."
"For me as an artist I still want to be able to touch the people individually." 
"It still matters to me that people individually went out and bought my record. Although I still think a million sold is a million sold, but for me I like to know that a million PEOPLE bought my record, not a company bought a million copies of my record." 

87 comments:

Anonymous said...

Lmbao loves it. Everyone isn't caught up in the "lets kiss the Carters ass" world. I never bought shit from niether and before stans come in advance kiss my ass, I can say what I know.

#TeamSelf

Anonymous said...

Want^

Anonymous said...

ok now

Anonymous said...

RIGHT!!

You tell him, Ladies Love! You make Cam-Z look like turd on a stick in the looks department. Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, and you're absolutely right.

And dont let nobody discount your opinion just because you are no longer on top. You had your time in the sun, and you had a damn good run, and most of all, YOU GOT IT HONESTLY, you didnt have to shade your way through, and get corporations to put you on. Love you, and ALL the real true artists.

Fuck Jay-Z, Fuck Beyonce, and fuck their dumbass stans. Nobody is here for ANY of them.

Anonymous said...

Carters are overrated, really

Anonymous said...

He's still mad at Jay because of what happened between them at Def Jam. It's business, never personal b

Anonymous said...

Bear in mind that Samsung did not purchase 1 million copies of the album, they paid a fee for rights to a digital download which they in turn gave for "free" when you purchased their app. No doubt they would not do this unless they turned a profit, which means that Camel, while undoubtedly receiving a nice little chunk of change for this, probaby lost money when you think of what he would have made if he truly sold 1 million copies.

Anonymous said...

LL is correct. I always find its the motivation behind EVERYTHING you do. Clearly, folks were more interested in receiving a freebie. This was manipulation, its not real.

Anonymous said...

Even if Jay didn't pull that stunt he still would've sold more than LL would've. Jay z has more number 1 albums than any other solo artist even Elvis. on top of that the album isn't that bad it's better than LL's most recent stuff. Have y'all heard his flop single "ratchet"? It's a disgrace to hip hop music

Anonymous said...

In a world where people want everything NOW and always want MORE ( i need MORE). Thanks L.L.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:05 - and honestly, thats most likely true, and its cool if Jay Z had a lot of hits....I'm sure no one is knocking that. What people are talking about, is not Old Skool Jay, when he kept it real, but this new Corporate Jay.....please tell me you can see the difference between the two. I'm a Jay-Z fan, but not for the past few years. Its like two separate Jays.

Anonymous said...

He's right but how many people are buying HIS albums? Oh.

#TeamLLCoolJ A REAL Hip Hop Legend/Pioneer said...

THANK YOU LL!!! *hand claps for LL outing the big lipped UGLY FRAUD*

#TeamLLCoolJ
#TeamTRUTH
#Teamphucksmokeandmirrors
#TeamnumbersdontmeanshititsthePEOPLEwhobuyyourmusicthatcounts

Anonymous said...

Artists are in their right to voice their opinions and express their discontent at this drug dealing pimp's desecration of an art form turned backroom deal. Where's the hate when it's truth

Anonymous said...

Please yall, dont start with that LL versus Jay shit. Thats not what this is about. Whether LL would sell now is not the point. Please lets show as black people we can think a little deeper than just on a competion type level. I dont give a fuck if Ray Charles came back from the dead (we know he damn sure aint sellin) and spoke on this shit, it doesnt make it any less true.

LISTEN to what the messenger is saying.

#CriticalThinkingSkillsForMyPeople

Anonymous said...

*competition

Anonymous said...

@1:10- "wheres the hate when its truth". You better preach okay. Lol

Monique said...

He must have a cd coming out.

Anonymous said...

Even if Jay didn't pull that stunt he still would've sold more than LL would've. 1:05 PM
___

LL's point was not about who sells the most, it was about making a more personal connection with fans who show their appreciation of his music by purchasing it.

Anonymous said...

Yes:

#TeamLLCoolJ
#CriticalThinkingSkillsForMyPeople

Anonymous said...

PREACH LL!!!!!

Anonymous said...

it's 2013 and LL still talking about people going out to BUY CD's?

all you LL supporters are OUTDATED OLD FARTS.

Anonymous said...

So if the point as he says, is not about who sells the most but the appreciation of his music, I am going to assume nobody appreciated those last couple of albums L.L. has put out?

Anonymous said...

You go LL. I just love the shade!

Anonymous said...

1:24 - Exhibit A of what keeps our people down.

Knowing damn well aint nobody talkin about actually buyin no CD's. But if you choose to be ignorant and intentionally miss the BLATANT points being made, thats your ignorant ass.

And furthermore, hell yeah I'm an LL fan, so fucking what?

Anonymous said...

People are so narrowed minded when they read an article and turn it into more sales between LL and Jay. People don't want to get out an buy shit in a store anymore they want to push a button because its free! i highly, i know for sure if it was not gimmick to this there would not of been a million people that purchase. shit we dont know who purchased what they give us numbers and we accept them. there are plenty of artist still makeing hits that are not on top they did there time in the lime light.

Anonymous said...

@1:11 exactly! Thank you for that

Anonymous said...

"I like to know that a million PEOPLE bought my record, not a company bought a million copies of my record."


Wig snatched viciously with the quickness! Tell it LL!

Anonymous said...

My question is if Jay thought he could do it alone why did he use the gimmick? Jay is fading and so is Bey. Yes everyone has their time but Bey and Jay are people who cannot take not being #1 it makes them go crazy. Its like damn go properly raise your daughter and let the younger generation rise up.

Anonymous said...

Let me break this down for a dumbass like 1:24, who cant think logically and deductively.

Lets say you have Artist A and Artist B. Both have equal popularity on the charts. They are neck and neck.

Both artists, are going to be so gracious as to allow a totally FREE download of their album. Just totally free.

Artist A chooses to allow his album to be downloaded whenever you buy a new iPhone. Meaning, as soon as you activate that iPhone, as a bonus, you get his album!

Artist B chooses to simply allow you to make your own choice, your own free will, to go the the Android Market or iTunes store, and search for his album, and simply download it on your own.

Now, even with BOTH artists giving their albums away for free, its still about the principal of the matter.....one chose the easiest way, the surefire way to get a lot of downloads, while the other artist chooses to simply trust that his fans will seek his work out, and download it on their own.

Do you fucking understand?

Anonymous said...

^Im not 1:24 but you helped me understand so basically some people may just been buying the phone and probably not even a fan of Jays but it helped his album still.

Anonymous said...

How can people discuss personal connections? Just because people here, including myself, may not be interested in JayZ he's been in the game this long for a reason.

LL likes to talk about fucking. Period. He has nothing else to talk about. No comparison and he is bitter because no one is interested.

Anonymous said...

I went to Target and purchased my Kanye West and J. Cole CDs. JayZ offered a different way to get his CD and since I had the Samsung S3, I downloaded the app, then the CD...so damn what!!!

It doesn't mean I don't appreciate the artist, it just means that I used "modern technology" to get his album. Since they are pushing all this modern technology BS down our throats, why not take advantage of it!!!

Whatever LL, I haven't liked him since he had his face "re-done".

~Gata~

Anonymous said...

Correction: Nobody is interested in gayz's old, sheisty ass. He knows this, that's why he used TRICKERY to sell his WACK album. If gayz was as "great" as the media would have you believe, he wouldn't have needed to go these lengths to sell his garbage ass album. The man is a crook and a coon. Fuck him and everything he stands for.

Anonymous said...

His whole point is stupid especially in this day in age of music. Who cares if people downloaded the album through an app vs going and buying the CD? Who goes out and buys music anymore? If I LEGALLY download the album through an app or download it off of iTunes that means I don't appreciate it? LL just doesn't like Jay and wants to complain about something. This is what's wrong with us. What does the method in which Jay sells HIS album have anything to do will LL Cool J in the first place? If he doesn't like how jay sold his album then when it comes time to sell his album don't do it that way. Simple as that problem solved.

Anonymous said...

I love you LL for not being afraid to say what you feel, especially to a 45 year old guy rapping about kidnapping someones family and shit. Jay, Bey and Blue please have several seats

Anonymous said...

Just for FYI, Cool J 's latest cd came out 2 months ago. "Authentic" gas it's moments but purely for LL fans.
I like Cool J but he needs to start criticizing his contemporaries in public. It makes him look bitter. He's telling the truth but still.....

Bee Gee said...

Jay shit on Uncle L when he was atop Def Jam, but really that was just L realizing that the game ain't what it used to be. Def Jam sold out like many other record labels. It'll never be the pillar of hip-hop that it once was - that was a different time.

Jay uses his big lips to suck all the right dicks, so I have to disagree with L. A million sold isn't a million sold when it comes the way Jay got it. These niggas at the top of this hip-hop wasteland sold their souls and the genre years ago. These "accomplishments" on wax mean next to nothing today. All they have left is the numbers..

Anonymous said...

the album sold 400,000 after that and went #1 in 18 different countries including the united states and the UK. do those numbers even after a million copies were already out there is amazing. ll is talking out of his ass and bitter that a dude who once had to buy a ticket to see him rap became his boss when he got his foot in the door. ll go back to apologizing for being black to country fans

Anonymous said...

LL Cool J has a right to comment. As a veteran in the rap music world. But he's off the mark here, if the whole extent of Jay-Z was just the million downloads he would have a point. 'Yeah you moved a million but there was no personal connect'But as soon as the album was available for sale several hundred thousand people went and bought it and the album is now #1 on the charts from sales. That is an incredible personal connection that just about every time Jay-Z drops his fans are so connected to him that they immediately purchase it.

Anonymous said...

LL is bitter and is targeting Jay, where was he at when Lady Gaga was selling her album for 99 cents on amazon just so she could sell 1 million her first week? If its about the art and really reaching fans why didn't he call her out on her stunt? If I remember correctly when he was hosting the Grammy announcements he was all smiles kissing her white ass. Hypocrite!

Bee Gee said...

Sure Jay has a lot of mindless drones as fans and a lot of em on the strength of who his wife is, whoopdeedoo.

BOTTOM LINE: Hov makes back room deals with rich schmucks for EVERYTHING...including his record sales. Lmao. More power too him but live niggas ain't respectin' that shit as far as pushing units to THE CONSUMER and keepin' the genre alive goes. He's just a pop star now like most of the mainstream clowns..

Bee Gee said...

to him

Anonymous said...

This is why I love LL. Not only is he the sexiest rapper who have ever became famous (because face it people, rappers are usually butt ugly and beastly) but he doesn't bite his tongue. I love him!

Anonymous said...

@1:05 Shut up!

Oh Jay-Z sold most singles since Elvis. Oh woopty doo! Still doesn't make him Michael and even a dead Tupac is more respected than his ugly ass.

Rihanna sold more singles than the Beatles and Beyonce (bought) won more Grammies than MJ, Whitney and other legends--does that mean they are better FUCK NO! They just have the money.

I swear, I hate stans!

Anonymous said...

Who cares though... Are we as a race ever going to stop with the meaningless back and forth bullshit over non sense? Why is it that the simplest thing can divide us. For a minute I almost thought that Trayvon was actually going to spark a change in us. But I now see its back to the same old same old.

Anonymous said...

@Bee Gee he is pushing untis to the consumer 400,000 first week. live niggas do respect a dude who can still move units no matter the market and the trends

Anonymous said...

3:05 first off learn to read I didnt say anything about singles. I said more #1 albums than any other solo artist, and who said anything about who's better?

I swear I hate illiterate fools who know nothing about reading comprehension.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"How can people discuss personal connections? Just because people here, including myself, may not be interested in JayZ he's been in the game this long for a reason."
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He's been in the game this long because he is a willing puppet that was chosen by the elite and who will sell out his people for a nickle. He is paid to rape the minds and pockets of the weak and vulnerable souls. To keep them in check and dumbed down. Which can be seen in some of these comments. People only seeing cheating numbers leading the competition, instead of honoring someone getting any amount of numbers by doing honest business. Not only did Jay cheat but his selling out gave the elite access to pry into the weak, vulnerable people's privacy. So the elite get what they want by using a willing sell out nigga to do their dirty work and be the front man/the face, giving people the impression Jay and the little man is winning, but in reality the little man loses and is too blinded, star struck, and dumbed down to even realize it. #checkmate

Anonymous said...

Bottom line, it is about "Quality" not quantity.

Anonymous said...

3:28 but the album is actually pretty decent tho

Anonymous said...

With Jay Z and LL being close in age, I'm feeling what LL is saying, simply because LL came at a time when an artist had to prove themselves on their own without the heavy influence of corporate world having a big hand at a person's success. Providing all the smoke and mirrors needed.
What I do know is after the death of Malcolm X, the elite's that run the world said that they would from that point on give black folks a leader in every top position, one that they would control behind the scenes. Someone like Tupac, who within each album he became more and more conscious about the world dealings and started speaking on it, who had many black people's attention... had to go! So they GAVE us Jay. A brother who is quite the opposite and is happy to do the biding of the devil for fame and fortune. This is why his material never has any growth and he keeps singing the same old lyrics in each song. It's done on purpose because growth and unity is the last thing the elites want.

Anonymous said...

@3:17

BINGO!!

Bee Gee said...

@3:09 - I beg to differ, fam. Who he movin' units to? On my momma, I don't know not one person in my big ass family, friends, associates from work, etc.. that are buying that shit. Like I said, the meaning is diminished because anybody with a 3rd eye can see that Jay sellin more records to pop fans and Beyonce fans than to hip-hop heads. All he has is the numbers..

Anonymous said...

I agree with LL as an artist . When you work hard to create aproduct for your fans you would want them to show their love and apprecitation for your music by going out and purchasing it. Anybody will go get something thats free just because its free and people like free.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @3:00 PM said...

"This is why I love LL. Not only is he the sexiest rapper who have ever became famous"

__________________

If we're talking SEXY then you would have to put Treach way ahead of LL, and don't forget Nas, and some would even say Common...

but for me, Treach was the sexiest MF that rapped a few bars back in the day.


Magick said...

*daps*@3:17

That album got the be the weakest shit I ever heard from this nigga. I have listened to it all of ONCE and I got it for free. Anybody with half a damn brain knows what is going on here, as I see the last few posts have alluded to.

This some ol bullshit...

Anonymous said...

"movin' units" - ugh, i can't believe that phrase is in a conversation about music.

well, yes i can: it's all about the money.

Anonymous said...

@4:11 Eww. Treach look okay. Nas looks okay as well and Common just looks like he have some kind of skin disorder.

Lupe Fiasco is probably the cutest rapper, LL is sexy with The Loc coming in FIRST! The rapper Loon may have quit rap and is now raging Muslim, but he was a sexy hunk of chocolate!

Too bad I don't date rappers---most of them are mentally unhinged, antisocial Black males (and white males too -- Vanilla Ice and Eminem).

Anonymous said...

The Loc --> Loon*

Anonymous said...

I moved 10 million units of drugs.

I moved 3 million units of cigarettes.

I moved 1 million units of child pornography.

I moved 40 million units of pollutants from my factory to the ocean.

I moved 2 million units of flammable children's pajamas.

I moved 15 million units of ground beef with a little ground dog mixed in there.

I move units! Congratulate me!

Anonymous said...

LL Cool speaks for many, many , many people.

Anonymous said...

@4:24

Jay-Z and Beyonce are the Walmart of the urban music industry---or music industry at that. And I mean that in a very, very BAD way.

Anonymous said...

351 BeeGee you stay on it. I always have to cosign lol. I do not know any hiphop guys fucking with Jays music. In my opinion Beyonce made Jay because so many other races now see him that once didnt.

Anonymous said...

Thank You LL Cool

Authentic treachery is found when we abandon ourselves, becoming deaf to the whispers of our spirits and blind to the powerful potential therein.
~ Joaquin Mariel Espinosa.

Honey Bun said...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m81vyyWNIh1rcqzfoo1_500.jpg

Anonymous said...

I was going to say that Jay Z didn't know anything of the Magna Carta until yah he's in open contempt of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Calling himself hova-come on devil worshipper. Holy Grail. Anyway like his wife-he bought up his own stock. End Times here my Subsuharan African People. Things you KNOW are wrong and against are Lord and Saviour are now alright.

Anonymous said...

Come out the closet LL and make some good music and not some isht comparing gold chains to slavery

Delited said...

LL in the White World, too. He ain't scared to say shit, I see, as long as it's subliminal.


Obviously, he and J don't rub elbows.

Anonymous said...

@1:49 pm he has been in the game this long because of his behind the scene political connections..I.e. being an admitted Satanist and Freemason- definitely not because of his talent.

For the past 15 years he has been attaching himself with whoever is hot musically:
First Foxy, then Beanie Siegel, R Kelly, Beyonce, Alicia Keys, Rihanna, and now Justin T. This clown can't stand on his on 2 feet as a solo artist.

He's a 50 yo. rapper. He needs to let the young guys eat

Delited said...

@ 3:00

Yea.....he WAS sexy before he underwent surgery. See before and after pics. And no, I'm not talking bout before he stopped wearing a hat because of that cone head. Dude look cray today.

Anonymous said...

Finest male rappers:
LL
Tupac
Nas
Treach
in that order b*tches!!! LL so fine he could still get the cat at the age of 50. I still feel some kind of way when I hear 'Doin It' and 'Backseat of my Jeep.' Yum

Anonymous said...

On Tuesday, radio host Tom Joyner offered Rachel Jeantel, a friend who was on the phone with Trayvon Martin the night he was killed, a full ride to college.

Anonymous said...

Nobody checking for LL... putting all that lip gloss on like he's a woman and doing whatever cosmetic surgery he did to his face to stay young looking. Stop it. Nobody checking on his albums, nobody checking on him except to see him host an awards show he will never win and to see reruns of Deep Blue Sea :)
I am no big on Jay Z either but I can't stand when brothers act ignorant towards other brothers have smart shh to say. Why can't black folks be happy for other black folks? It's not like there are thousands in the industry our color...

Anonymous said...

Even if Jay didn't pull that stunt he still would've sold more than LL would've. Jay z has more number 1 albums than any other solo artist even Elvis. on top of that the album isn't that bad it's better than LL's most recent stuff. Have y'all heard his flop single "ratchet"? It's a disgrace to hip hop music
1:05 PM


I don't why you bothered to even flex your fingers to type this lie.

Elvis and Bruce Springsteen still hold the record for solo artist with the most #1 albums.

Anonymous said...

8:52 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Preach!

Yall stans are beyond delusional.

Anonymous said...

"I don't why you bothered to even flex your fingers to type this lie."

^^
Because morons refuse to take time to do a simple google search on information to back up their amorphic and petty arguments.

Anonymous said...

Just for clarification, Jay-Z was never the president of Def Jam. That was a p. r. Stunt to keep his name out there. Just like he was an owner of the Brooklyn Nets. Those are publicity stunts to companies look hip, edgy and attract a young audience with disposable income.

Anonymous said...

that dick sucker need stop hating

Anonymous said...

@7:34 your a tramp and LL wants dick not pussy

Anonymous said...

"A well dressed lie versus the naked truth!" This is clearly the case we have about J, and this "platinum" status.

LL kept it plain and simple with his commentary.

Where is the artistic integritity?

Seriously though?

That corporate Jay Z bullshit he pulling now been wack for real. "And YOU know it lol!" Not even about that bullshit claiming ownership of the the b-ball team (Nets). Or taking the presidential relationship with B to damn far!

But before that.

All that shit been played out.

Stop with the bullshit. Accolades for this? Hova is Ova! But some of you lollipop suckers dont even know.

Anonymous said...

Stans are HILARIOUS! That old mothafucka (Jay Z) could NEVER sell a million records that quick. The truth is, the old fucker can't compete with the new guys. He's faded. I respect LL all day long, he never used gimmics, only talent and sex appeal.

Illegal downloads or not, people not checking for his old ass like that no more, after all the stunts and shady shit, he lost some appeal. Lil Wayne SOLD a million albums in one week, people wanted his music that bad, but not Jay Zs.

Nobody is hating on the old faggot or knocking his TRUE acheivements, but his last stun was straight up foul and he gets ZERO respect for that. #NoCoolPoints #BitchAssness

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't get their bullshit not even for free. No stank you.

Anonymous said...

Hova is Ova!

Anonymous said...

Now 12:30 told the absolute truth.

Anonymous said...

ONE MILLION PEOPLE WILL NOT BUY JAYZ'S ALBUM, NOT EVEN 100,000.

Anonymous said...

Jayz cares nothing about how you think about him and his shady shit, HE JUST WANTS THE MONEY ANYWAY HE CAN GET IT, EVEN BY WORKING THE
HELL OUT OF BEYONCE'S DUMB ASS.

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