Saturday, October 26, 2013

Left Eye's Uncle Defends Pebbles Reid


In a recent interview Lisa 'Left Eye' Lopes' uncle defends Pebbles and Left Eye against the way they were portrayed in Crazy Sexy Cool: The TLC Story...

Left Eye's uncle Kyle Young tells We Live Radio,
“At least have some accuracy about the movie! Not just make Tionne and Chilli look like they were bright happy stars who were being messed up and messed around by drunken Lisa who had emotional problems and who wanted to mess up their lives and not let them make any money.”
“And poor Pebbles. Pebbles was not like that to them. In fact towards the end of her life Lisa found out some things that she shared with me. She found out that Pebbles didn’t do any of those things...well...a lot of those things. The contracts. Yes they were shitty contracts, but thats the contracts everybody had. They were the regular 360 contracts that everybody signs.”
“I can understand why Chili didn’t like Pebbles. But it’s sad. In fact there are rumors that Chili was [messing] with LA Reid. I’ll clarify that with [Pebbles], but I know what Lisa told me. It’s sad how they treated Pebbles in this. They should have given her more honor instead of making her into such villain. She was hard on them but she had to be to get the best out of some young girls that were dealing in a industry that is hard.”

55 comments:

Anonymous said...

This probably a drunk uncle that never did shit for Left Eye coming up so she shaded him once she blew up. Family will cut you quicker than outsiders, even after you dead and gone.

Anonymous said...

So who else had one of these "up the ass with no grease" contracts? Since "everybody had one."

Anonymous said...

Is he friends with Pebbles? "I'll clarify that with Pebbles" sounds like somebody got some money or some head to come forth with this statement. They are all throwing dirt on Chilli though. Wonder why?

Anonymous said...

@6:39 PM yesss! What kind of "uncle" would come to the defense of an evil witch who literally drove his niece insane? Did he ever stop to think that maybe if Pebbles wouldn't have been the tyrant that she was, stifling her creativity that Lisa wouldn't have been crawling through jungles, screwing in swamps, believing in astrology like it was the gospel truth and living off of aloe leaves and water?

Anonymous said...

Broke Uncle Alert. I wonder how much he was paid for this insider info.

Anonymous said...

Well Chili was prtrayed as a love sick puppy, who had 1 man until she finally dumped him. Tionne was the strong.brave one {she did handle her illness well and can definitely be inspiration to others!\ Lisa's men got more airing out than Mr. Dalvin and Mack 10, in the movie. They spent a lot of time exposes Pebbles, when there were others involved. And the original member, Crystal had 1 minute and she was a non signing, non factor who was dismissed and forgotten by T-BOZ and Llisa. She said she was let go because she wanted her mom to look over the contract.

Anonymous said...

First Pebbles son and then her daughter and now Lisa's drunk uncle..... who's up next to defend this chick?

Anonymous said...

@7:06 PM, I'm guessing one of Dallas Austin's babymamas!

Nikasha said...

I don't believe the movie was completely accurate, but what's done is done. I'm sick of these random ass people defending shit that they know nothing about. Only Lisa can tell her story.

Anonymous said...

"I TOLD YOU GIRLS THAT I DON'T WANT YOU BEING FAST!!!"

Anonymous said...

Left Eye was so gorgeous as are all people of Cape Verdean descent. Just look at Amber Rose.

Anonymous said...

"In fact there are rumors that Chili was [mesing] with LA Reid. I’ll clarify that with [Pebbles],"

This is the only relevant piece. Pebbles paid this nigga to come out with this info smh

Anonymous said...

i guess pebbles's check cleared.........

Anonymous said...

The uncle's statements sound credible to me. He ain't no dummy and damn for sho don't sound drunk. He knows some truth and came with it.

Anonymous said...

@6:36 PM & @6:44 PM I really loved your comments they were right on the money......

Anonymous said...

@7:30pm

Why would Lisa be talking to her uncle about Chilli sleeping with LA Reid?........think critically.

Honey Bee said...

Sounds like Uncle enjoyed a BJ or two courtesy of Pebbles

Quiana said...

This uncle need more people because Pebbles was a bitch and took them to the cleaneres and Clive and LA Reid. They all was wrong in doing this.
Pebbles and her people need to stop because TLC been saying this for over 10 years so please step with all this mess saying she didn't know nothing, Pebbles knew what was going on that's why she kick the other girl out of the group because Pebbles was shady.

Anonymous said...

This is a lie because 360 deals weren't started until the Mid 2000s. Let's say it was done in a 360 deal format. 360 deals also typically feature a large advance. None of the girls have ever mentioned any large advance of money. If there was one who got it...Pebbles?

Anonymous said...

Stans are in such denial.
NEWSFLASH.....They didn't even READ the contracts before signing. So if they got ripped off, whose fault is that?

Anonymous said...

I'm loving the flailing damage control coming out of Camp Reid! I bet they are glad social media didn't exist in 1992!

The movie was co-produced by TBOZ AND CHILLI! WTF do these people expect? TBoz and Chilli were telling the story from THEIR perspective, and only approved what THEY wanted conducive to their portrayal. Of course there's gonna be bias!

We all know Chili was a skeezer with daddy issues but do y'all honestly think that those vices would have made the final cut? no.

We all know Mack10 Ike Turner'd Tionne on the regular but do y'all honestly think that would have made it as well? Hell No!

Even if Lisa were alive to give her input to this movie it would have been just the same because I feel Lisa was the most candid of them all (and a majority of how Left Eye was portrayed came from her own documentary tapes). Only thing I didn't know about was the dude she dated during the "Fanmail" era.

Pebbles needs to own up to her shit and admit she was just like EVERY OTHER Industry shyster; got a bunch of desperate, stupid and impressionable young kids tryna make it out of the 'hood', locked them into an "all slices of the pie" deal and worked them like slaves with what little talent they had.

Anonymous said...

Why would Lisa be talking to her uncle about Chilli sleeping with LA Reid?........think critically.




hmmmm well he couldve been eavesdropping. i have several nosy ass relatives. im sure u do too.

Anonymous said...

Stans are in such denial.
NEWSFLASH.....They didn't even READ the contracts before signing. So if they got ripped off, whose fault is that?



that is a good point! no matter what pebbles said only an idiot would sign something that they havent read or dont fully understand.......crystal said thats why she bounced. but i still think pebbles is foul and disgusting for what she did. she isnt innocent.

Anonymous said...

I would never want to be rich and famous...I am afraid of the price I'd have to pay...It's not fare, if I give my talent and entertain the world and my boss pays me..why do I have to sacrifice someone in my life ,in addition to the entertainment I provide...someone answer me that!

Anonymous said...

It was Clivve D that is the greedy one...who do you think pebbbles was getting money from??????

Anonymous said...

LOL @ "drunk uncle alert"

He need to be addressing the part in the movie where Lisa went to Tionne's for dinner and Lisa was eating like a mule and Tionne was like WTF and Lisa was like she hadn't ate in too long.
Why hadn't she ate in so long "uncle"?
How about he address the issue in the movie that painted the picture that Lisa didn't have a dependable family. Were y'all there for her or not???? He defending Pebbles stealing a*s when he need to be defending the Lopez family who let their girl move across state hungry. Lisa went to Hondorus for peace of mind not to her family, what's up with that UNCLE?! Maybe she knew her family was ignorant and did stuff like, um, defend stealing as* pebbles.

And of course TLC should have read every line of those contracts, now would they have understood what they were reading on their own without a lawyer...maybe not, could they afford a contract lawyer, doubt it, was not having a good understanding of the contract worth the risk, probably if that was their dream/passion. Contracts are a big deal so I can see people taking the chance of being screwed for them. Nothing wrong with going for your dreams, you get screwed but at least you tried to go big. But...from the movie Chilli and Tionne's moms seemed like they had some good sense, so WTF!? Chilli in the car talking to her mom about college vs record deal, how the hell they go from college talk to not reading contracts?! Maybe the movie did have a few exaggerations about their level of good sense. Tionne's mom signing insurance claims and hospital bills. You're dealing with insurance claims most of your child's life and y'all not about reading things before you sign.OKAY! Alright! Unacceptable.

Tionne and Chilli and their moms were portrayed as folks with some good sense, and folks that stood up for themselves, so how Pebbles got away with so much low down-ness and the moms didn't step in once, especially Tionne mom who had medical bills and insurance to pay for, didn't she SERIOUSLY NEED those millions, the moms not stepping in needs to be addressed on Oprah.

Anonymous said...

Nooooo @10:06 PM. Those girls moms were portrayed as pushovers. Like I said in another post, rumor has it that Sister Perri was flipping out on their mamas too and besides just talking tough to Crazy, Sexy and Cool she was very "hands on" with her so-called grooming of those poor girls. If everything they say about her is true, T-boz, Left Eye and Chilli was probably afraid to come up missing...on some street shit, if they crossed The Prophetess the wrong way.

Anonymous said...

Uncle Under-the-Table-Payoff needs to keep his trap shut. Tionne and Chilli should sue his dumbass.

Anonymous said...

9:37 PM clearly you are a "illuminati" believer.... if you were more involved with church you would realize success is a BLESSING. BLESSINGS only come from HIM.... noone has to sacrifice somone for succes... people just die, wtf? its life....smh

Anonymous said...

forget about Peebles... she's just a puppet witch. the real person in charge is CLIVE DAVIS. All artist who have opposed him have ended up DEAD.

Anonymous said...

At the beginning of this interview, I was very irritated with the long dragged out bio of Lisa's uncle. At one point I thought he was trying to market his clothing business, but as the interview progressed and he started talking about his role with the group, TLC, Pebbles and his niece, Lisa, he won me over as someone who is credible. This man is not out to get rich and I don't believe Pebbles paid him off to say what he said. I watched Lisa's Honduras YouTube video. She was very artistic and talented and she did have a giving heart. She also talked about the contract. She was open and candid saying it was a shitty contract, but she never said Pebbles was out to get them. I also read an article years ago where Pebbles talked about her last conversation with Lisa that ended with her and Lisa reconciling and saying they loved each other. Lisa was by far the most talented one in the group and she could stand on her own. If she had lived, I believe she would have had her own recording studio or did something with her artistic talent. She was very business minded. Not saying T-Boz and Chilli weren't talented, but they remind me of backup singers to the star in the group.
Chili giving blow jobs to Austin? What the hell? She ought to be thanking Pebbles for not throwing her ass out the group and why is she best pals with that two-faced'd T-boz who wanted to throw her ass out the group?

Anonymous said...

@11:02

Just a lurker but I think 9:37 was referring to becoming rich and successful in the entertainment industry, where it is know that certain "sacrifices" have to be made.

By the by, I would not call all success a "blessing". Al Capone became "successful" by middleman-ning his way through the prohibition era, and taking lives of others in the process. Do you refer to that as a "blessing"?

zeeedeee said...

What I thought was real shady was the way they portrayed Lisa with that forty ounce in the paper bag like some kinda wino...i knew she had issues with alcohol but that was so unnecessary...what neither one of them partook of anything?..they also never even talked about how Lisa carved the word hate I think into her arm

MizIron Box said...

@2:25 AM "Bad Moon's" fine ass had her carving love and hate in her arm. That movie left out a lot of good, grown up tea. This was definitely for the 21 and under set.

Anonymous said...

I remember rumors back in the day about Chilli hooking up with LA Reid. It's still not right that those girls didn't make any money with all the work they put in. You don't see Destiny's Child broke.

Anonymous said...

@10:06 EXACTLY. Lisa went to Atlanta by herself with like 200 dollars and stayed with Jermaine Dupri. None of her family were there with her for support. That's one reason why she drank, to get attention from people, mainly her father.

@11:12

If Lisa was meant to be a solo artist then Supernova wouldn't have bombed. They were a GROUP and meant to be a group. And what exactly makes T-Boz two-faced? She was in the original group, Chilli was the new chick coming in. It was Pebbles group and they said that she favored Tionne over the others.

@Zeedee

It was imperative to include Lisa's drinking because she said HERSELF that it was an issue for her. I don't see how it's "shady" to show her with a drink in her hand when she had to go to REHAB for it after burning down Andre's house.

@MizIronBox

You are right a lot was left out but T-Boz said if they included everything the movie would have been 5 hours long. A lot youngins watched this film and learned about TLC for the first time.

Charmaine Johnson said...

While I feel it should have been a mini series like the Jacksons did for ABC in 92', this was just some stuff crammed into two and a half hours. A PG set. Also, to clarify few things. 1. It was supposed to be a miniseries. TBoz wanted that and vh1 said no, Chilli was disappointed because she wanted it too. 2. The paper bag thing. Both ladies said they couldn't get cleared to use what she was drinking so they had to use the bag.3. Everyone is coming for Chilli, I don't understand. With Pebbles, the only thing I will say about that is the same way u lost him is the same way u got him. 4. Years ago they talked about that gun incident in the office and Diddy confirmed it on twitter...lol with Chilli asking Remember that? 5. The ciroc bottles in the movie n master p talk was also cause various companies n suge knight wouldn't let them use the name nor likeness for the movie. And last but not least everyone is gonna have issue with this movie but its definitely the 21 and under set.

Anonymous said...

@9:25 AM T-boz wanted to kick Chili out the group. So, later they became best pals?

Niyabinghi Warrior said...

Nigga sit down!! cosign the drunk ass paid off uncle ugh!!! Pebbles was not alone in her dirt of ripping those girls off, her gay ass husband at time was also a thief as was all the other vultures. I'm so glad these various industries and their wicked ways are coming to an end.

Anonymous said...

@11:02 If you refer back to Matthew 4:1-11 you will see that not all blessings are from God, the devil gives his children blessings as well. The devil tried to tempt God, so I don't know what makes people think that they are exempt and that every good thing comes from the Lord. Matthew 5:45 says God "rain on the just and on the unjust." So just imagine if we were to abide by his word and follow Christ like we're suppose to do, how much more God could bless us. I don't usually post and I'm not trying to give you a sermon but I saw what 9:37 was trying to say - majority of people in the spotlight are into more than just "I have a talent that I can get money from so that makes me successful - It's more to it than that. Enjoy your Sunday!

-N

Anonymous said...

@9:25 AM T-boz wanted to kick Chili out the group. So, later they became best pals?
1:49 PM

What's your question? It was 20 years ago. T-Boz was already in the group, she initially wanted Chilli out, but obviously changed her mind. What's hard to understand?....

Anonymous said...

Uncle Kyle has been around for some time. He was with Lisa the day she burned the house down; he and lisa's sister, Reina. He does come off a bit thirsty on instagram because when he tries to get the celebrity's attn, he always says 'lefteye's uncle kyle.' He's a clothing designer. In some pics of LE, you see her wearing "kyle." It's him.

One thing I will say is I've NEVER heard Chilli deny fucking L.A. And as you can see, everyone tells the same thing: chilli was messing around with L.A. Sm1 tried to say it was TBOZ and that was the first I had ever heard that.

LE herself said it wasn't a good or a bad deal, but the type deal new artists get. I think the issue was that they had the same lawyers and accounting as Pebbles' company. Conflict of interest was the problem, not the bad contract. Record contracts are like legalized predatory lending. Who's gonna tell the execs they advance you 50g's, but they can't charge you 1000% interest?

I too think the movie was an exaggeration because it made tboz look so serious all the time and made Chill look like she was an in yo face, ready to throw blows type. Nope, Chilli's passive aggressive and messy. Those types can never fight. She herself said she approached LA/BF and told them she could sing. In the movie, she approached Pebbles.

There were so many simple details they changed, why would we believe the rest of it? It's just entertainment. In the movie, they had KEKE at the Grammy's say if you have greedy people.... If you watch the actual clip on youtube, it was LE who stood there and said those exact words. Chilli plays it safe, Tboz will have your back, i.e. if Lisa act a fool and some shit happen. Chilli would rather lay in the back and just deal with shit, no matter what she says now or try to portray.

Anonymous said...

^Um, they changed details for the sake of the movie, that doesn't mean it was all fairy tales. And I never heard anyone PUBLICALLY say that Chilli was messing with LA, not even PEBBLES. Probably because the rabbit hole goes way deeper...

Anonymous said...

I'm reading more of the comments. I wouldn't discount or dismiss Uncle Kyle as a drunk. He has been in Lisa's background for a very long time. He didn't just come outta nowhere. Like I said, she was wearing his clothes and helping him with his fashion line. He didn't a really nice interview with S2S in 2002 when LE died. Sean Newman is the real boyfriend portrayed as "Larry" in the movie. The casting was a contrast to how Sean really looks, but the cornrolls and sweat suits were accurate.

During fanmail, Lisa was with some guy Lorenzo for a short time and then back with Andre Rison and then to Sean Newman. Remember when she was "missing?" She was in Honduras with Sean "Larry" Newman. They actually show this in 'The Last Days of Left Eye.'

No, this is not uncle kyle, btw.

Anonymous said...

OOOOOOH so they changed things in the movie to protect the innocent. Got it, so this movie was just a re-enactment of actual events. Well now that you've cleared that up. LOL.

For the record, only chilli and L.A. can confirm they fucked. I was just saying that we have been hearing this rumor, allegation, etc, for years. I wish they clip of Pebbles saying this on the air way back when was accessible. The best tell alls would come from Tboz and Pebbles.

Chilli's never going to say she immediately tried to get pregnant by Dallas cuz of who he was. She will never say that. That ho is a ho, plain and simple. IDC who she fucked. I just hate how she tries to come off like the wholesome type when she's just the ho type. Now she's supposedly fucking Neyo. When she had that silly show, what chilli wants, I said then it's just for tv. Chilli would never come outta her mouth and tell you that she needs, wants, and requires the guy to be rich. She never will. All the "relationships" she has had have been with rich guys. Dallas, L.A. Reid (lol), Usher, and now Neyo.

Chilli would never date a regular guy cuz she'd have to spend her money. I do give her credit for buying her mom's house in 2002 outright, cash. Now that, I can't throw stones at - at all.

Anonymous said...

Oh and wouldn't it make sense that if she feared she was being kicked out the group, who had more power than Pebbles? L.A. Reid. It would make sense that she fucked him to solidify her place in the group. TBoz confirmed Chilli was replaced. In the movie, the act like they couldn't find anybody.

Chilli sat and waited for one call: L.A. Reid telling her where to meet him to suck him off and bang her out. Folks can believe what they want. She screwed that man to get back in that group.

Anonymous said...

@4:08 You sound like some broke nigga who's mad that Chilli wouldn't fuck with you lol

Anonymous said...

Ya heard about Toni Braxton 's contract?

zeeedeee said...

@charmaine Johnson thanks for clearing that up about the paper bag..@anon 9:25 I knew she had an alcohol addiction that was not news..lisa wasn't there to give her input so I feel a lot of this account is shady and @miziron yes mr Rison did a number on her..i remember him back then and can say I never liked him...and I also am assuming the reason nobody ever spoke of chili and La Reid is because chili was underage

zeeedeee said...

Oh yea somebody was being real generous with Evan Ross playin Dallas Austin...ha! dude is a super producer but fine he is NOT!..i still remember his group the highland place mobsters..damm I loved them!

Anonymous said...

but evan ross isnt fine though.........

Anonymous said...

@ 4:08 all them dudes is suspected switch hitters also, including Floyd Mayweather.

Tippie Toes said...

I don't think the uncle should be talking about how Chili and Tboz felt they were treated. That's just incredulous to tell someone how they felt...

Anonymous said...

513 point out the quotes from 408 that makes me sound broke or mad chilli didnt fuck me. Im about to teach ur ass comprehension. Name or point out her known relationships and if any of the guys from her show - the winners- actually ended up in a relationship.

My opinion is just that. Please dont projec t ur poor financial habits and bad dating choices on me. See how I cant assume ur broke or mad from what u wrote either.

Anonymous said...

Half of you people have no idea what the heck your talking about. Him and Lisa were very close. He isn't broke either he has had a clothing line designed for tlc and is friends with pebbles and you have never signed a contract so you don't know who took what money and Lisa said herself that it was a contract new artist get.some of these comments are very ignorant and simple minded. You can't go off a movie because it will never be 100% factual being that one person is missing. And if two people seem to not have faults and one does. That's a red flagfor embellishment .

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