Tuesday, December 17, 2013

R Kelly Rape Claims Revisited


In a discussion about why R Kelly gets a pass for routinely preying on teenage girls the former Chicago Sun Times reporter who broke the story 15 years ago goes into great detail about some of allegations...

Jim DeRogatis tells The Village Voice
The [accusations] were stomach churning. The one young woman, who had been 14 or 15 when R. Kelly began a relationship with her, detailed in great length, in her affidavits, a sexual relationship that began at Kenwood Academy: He would go back in the early years of his success and go to Lina McLin's gospel choir class. She's a legend in Chicago, gospel royalty. He would go to her sophomore class and hook up with girls afterward and have sex with them. Sometimes buy them a pair of sneakers. Sometimes just letting them hang out in his presence in the recording studio. She detailed the sexual relationship that she was scarred by. It lasted about one and a half to two years, and then he dumped her and she slit her wrists, tried to kill herself. Other girls were involved. She recruited other girls. He picked up other girls and made them all have sex together. A level of specificity that was pretty disgusting.
And there was a young woman who was pressured into an abortion?
That he paid for. There was a young woman that he picked up on the evening of her prom. The relationship lasted a year and a half or two years. Impregnated her, paid for her abortion, had his goons drive her. None of which she wanted. She sued him.
Read the full interview here

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Anonymous said...

Smh.. Sad sick world. We as women need to learn young that although a man may be what we long for we have to keep ourselves in the process. Young and old... that grown man was wrong but he is not the only one.

Anonymous said...

This is coming out now because??? We kno he likes youngins so whats new?

Anonymous said...

HE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LIVE THIS DOWN I SEE...

Not to condone his actions, because they are sick! But I went to middle school with 13/14/15 y/o girls who were sexually active and pregnant... So some of those girls new exactly what they were doing... and I went to school in Illinois.

However R. is still sick for going after them! A lot of these young girls mess with older men, trying to be grown, its just they arnt celebrities so it dosnt make the news...

Anonymous said...

At NO time should a GROWN a$$ man seek out minors!! I don't care if young girls do seek out older guys. If the guy is older, he knows its wrong and doesn't need to pursue it just because 'she wants it'. At least one person has to exercise common sense.

This RAPIST/CHILD MOLESTER shouldn't even HAVE a record deal; who would want to do business with a pedophile???

Anonymous said...

In the USA, a man can commit murder, arrested and tried in the court by a jury of his peers. The defendant could in fact be the perpetrator of the crime but if that jury finds him not guilty, he can never be tried for that crime again in our legal system.
RWS, why are you doing this, why are you running this trial again? Some of the perpetrators of the most heinous crimes ever committed are walking free today. Once again, RWS, why are you doing this?

Anonymous said...

Predator. Plain and Simple. I use to be a big fan but will not listen or especially buy his music. For those of you putting some of the blame on the girls…Looking at you 7:50. Would you trust a 14 or 15 year old to do an important business decision for you no matter how smart they are against a seasoned professional adult?

ms mac said...

Me and my BFF were just discussing R Kelly the other day. Trapped in the Closet was on the Indie Channel. My take: He's guilty. He know it, his wife knows it and God knows it. But because so many Black women & girls are hyper-sexualized at such an early age, this situation was played down dramatically. This is also why he received so much support from the Black community during that time. Just look at who was supporting him. It tells you everything you need to know.

People who are in denial about his guilt feel that just because he is talented he can't also have a sick perversion. These two things are not mutually exclusive. Lots of talented people are seriously flawed. In fact, some of the most talented people can;t help but be flawed because there's an internal struggle going on inside them at all times -- like this crazy good vs. evil thing.

If he could become enamored and then marry Aliyah when she was 15, I don't see why he couldn't become enamored and then have sex with other high schoolers who were also 15. He was a little boy trapped inside a grown man's body. And this is why that Trapped in the Closet mess was so freaky, confusing and disturbing. It's his own story.

Anonymous said...

8:08 STFU. You're the type who would want us to forget about George Zimmerman. You do not mess with kids idiot. R. Kelly due to his stature (at the time) and money got away…but in the court of public opinion he is guilty. Why don't you let some of your teenage relatives do a sleep over with your hero.

Anonymous said...

@818, why not look at your young girls out there today and realize that this man is not taking virginity from any of these girls. Most of these girls have more sex on a regular basis than married women. Fix the core of the problem and everything else takes care of itself.

Anonymous said...

@8:08AM ITS CALLED EDUCATING DUMB MF'ERS LIKE YOU!

Its morally and mentally wrong for an adult to sleep with a child let alone piss on one. We just don't value the life of young black girls.

And for all you 'she was grown and having sex and knew what she was doing ass bitches'...Don't be mad because you're walking around with demons YOU never let go of, but ALL teenagers make mistakes when not parented correctly. They aren't mentally fit so just stop trying to blame a child who's looking for approval.
Teach don't preach.
But black women love to see another one down until its their daughter.

Anonymous said...

BLACK PANTIES track list
R. Kelly

01. Legs Shakin’

02. Cookie

03. Throw This Money on You

04. Prelude

05. Marry the Pussy

06. You Deserve Better

07. Genius

08. All the Way

09. My Story

10. Right Back

11. Spend That

12. Crazy Sex

13. Shut Up

14. Tear It Up

15. Show Ya Pussy

16. Physical

17. Every Position

Anonymous said...

Somebody thirst for more money has been reactivated. This is called a Shake Down!!!

Anonymous said...

8:37 Most times when you leave your problems for the world to fix, you walk away disappointed. IJS

Anonymous said...

If R. Kelly's victims had been White, we would either be talking about him in the PAST TENSE(i.e. his ass woulda got nuked), or he'd still be locked up in jail. But because he's Black, and Black girls and women are so devalued in this society, he's allowed to roam free and continue his sick, perverted ways. I don't care how "grown" or sexually active Black teen girls, that DOES NOT give a GROWN ADULT man the right to molest them. He should have enough self-control and morals to not take advantage of UNDER-AGE girls, even if they're practically putting it in his face. But again, when it comes to Black girls and women, our own kind doesn't deem us worthy of protection, so there ya go. *smdh*

Anonymous said...

8:52 It's music made for the grown and adults, is that a problem? PG13...

ms mac said...

Regarding that track list, he clearly has a fascination with pussy. Too bad it's underage pussy. Wonder what the relationship with his daughter's like?

Anonymous said...

Just the other day nobody was talking about R Kelly, and now he is the center topic for things that happened over 10 years ago. How long will he be hated on and judged? All the girls he had consensual sex with are well in their thirties, So whats the deal now? Does R Kelly need to go cut his wrist because bloggers are mad at him?

ms mac said...

@9:00, he also made sure to Marry the Pussy that was 15 so ...

And for the record,real grown adults don't wanna listen to no song called Show Ya Pussy. Only infantile, immature young adults or grown-ups with a childish mentality get off on shit like that. Try again.

Anonymous said...

Yea, he was foud not guily in a court of law. But EVERYONE knew it was because he paid the girl off. Do all the R defenders even remeber what happened. First, the girl and her family went to France for a bit. This was a family that barely surviving financially. Second, the girl said it was not her in the tape. Despite the fact that more then a dozen people identified her in the tape. It is clear that he bought the family off.

As for the people talking about why would all the other girls take the money. It is simple. The girls knew that with his fame, money and standing, they would be raked over the coals. This thread bears that out. Instead of criticizing a grwon ass man for fucking underage girls, people are throwing the girls under the bus. "They having sex anyways" Blah blah blah.

Anonymous said...

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. The girls took the money to get Paid!!! They had sex before with others and never got paid for it
R Kelly was the meal ticket.

Anonymous said...

Parent's need to raise their children Right. I see a ton of young girls under 18 all over the place,living the lives of 25 year olds and nobody is concerned about them. Its only a concern when somebody famous gets caught up.

Anonymous said...

9:09
If the family were of morals and principles, all the money in the world would have been able to pay for her loss of honor. Therefore, can someone please explain what happened here…ijs

Anonymous said...

All of the so called victims are still bragging to their girlfriends that they had some good hot sex with RKelly. Believe it.

Anonymous said...

Which one of these girls married a famous baseball player? And is living a quiet Christian life somewhere?

Anonymous said...

I agree 100% 9:09!!!

Anonymous said...

SMH and Niggas will still support this sick Muthafucka.

Anonymous said...

Stupid people amaze me. Not. What about "underage" don't yall get? Don't matter how fast these girls were. I went to school with fast girls and guess what dummies? Most if not all of them were molested, which is WHY they were fast. They were exposed way too early. So yeah, blame the victims idiots. Because they are already victims to even be hanging with older men. Most went on to be strippers/prostitutes. Alliyah was lucky.

Anonymous said...

All of this isn't Robert Kelly's fault. I'm just going to keep it real: A LOT of young girls are sexually active at very young ages. Robert shouldn't have been dealing with these girls, but why are the girls getting a pass because they were "minors"? Why weren't their "minor" asses at home being in a child's place, playing with Barbies and Easy-Bake ovens? How did these young girls even know how to have sex? Please. The blame goes both ways.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:44 All those girls had experience full blown orgasms before they got to Kelly's bed. Truth of the matter he is the real victim.

Anonymous said...

@9:44
You are an idiot. Read 9:40 one more time and see if it doesn't answer your questions. MOST if not all young girls who are acting loose and sexual at young ages were likely molested or devalued in some way either by a friend or family member who was trusted to take care of them and failed. Some of y'all folks on here are truly sick in the head if you are blaming a CHILD ( under the age of 18) for tempting a grown ass man who could have had his share of adult women his own age. You need to examine your own souls and ask yourselves why you can so easily condone the sexual abuse of a child and then turn around and blame the victim for her own victimization.

Anonymous said...

10:03, Bitch, silence yourself. You are the idiot and I don't have to read another person's comment to influence my own comment. What study have you conducted, surveying MOST, IF NOT ALL YOUNG GIRLS, inquiring about their sexual abuse and/or sexual relations experience? NEVER. Sure, some promiscuous people have been molested, but not all of them, and I'm not about to blame R.Kelly based off of general principle. Those girls were hot in the ass and enamored with Robert's status and what he could offer them. At 15, 16, etc., if you're old enough to be out having sex, you're old enough to know what right from wrong.

Most of the time, your young daughters are posing with their hands on their hips at 5 years old and at 10, they can twerk. A lot of you neglectful bitches in here set your daughters up from day one to be young hoes, but then want to blame the man. Get the fuck out of here. We're the only race of women who base all of our worth on the size of our asses. We're the only race of women who are voluntary Hottentot Venuses. We're the only race of women mad at a young White girl for bringing twerking to the mainstream. We're the only race of women who do hoe shit in front of our daughters and indirectly teach our daughters to use what they have to get what they want. So fuck you and your sob story. Like I said, R.Kelly was wrong, but those girls knew damn well what they were doing. At 15, I was reading Ann M. Martin's "Baby-Sitter's Club" books. I wasn't even thinking about fucking or anything sexual. Instead of placing all of the blame on R.Kelly, question these faulty ass Black parents.

Anonymous said...

@ all the above commenters that said not to put entire blame on R. Kelly. I started phucking my stepdad when I was 10 years old. Even though he was 34 years old, it was not his fault. I used to sneak and watch my stepdad and mother phuck and wanted to try it with him. So I seduced him. And please dont judge me
but I liked. Call me fast or whateva but I knew what I was doing and enjoyed it
*shrugs shoulder

Anonymous said...

R.Kelly's sick behind trolled the churches for young girls and then hid behind the same church and gospel scriptures for protection once his secret was found out. Say what you will, but those elders and ministers knew what was going on and turned a blind eye to it. Many churches are filled with so much sin and ungodly behavior it's sickening. You probably had pastors sleeping with women in the church, deacons stealing from the collection plate, choir boys topping each other off. It is sickening and sad that R. Kelly's most vocal support was from black folks who came up in the church. Shame on you. His demons won't let him rest though, you can believe that. His convictions keep him up at night, tormenting him. Atleast that is my prayer. He is a sick man.

Missy Jones said...

@9:44 and 9:51, I wonder if you would be spitting the same slime out your mouths if it was your slut daughter.

Anonymous said...

@10:12 #1
You are extremely vile this early in the morning and yes, you are an idiot. Any credibility your long winded reply contained went out the window when you blame the victim. I don't care if a young girl is bent over naked in front of a MAN he is not to touch her. 'Tis all.

Anonymous said...

wow, JUST wow! Did anyone notice that they said he was picking these girls up at school, prom, etc. Places where girls are supposed to be. All of you who say that the girls are or share the blame, do you really believe that pedophiles go after "fast" girls you are delusional. They want the innocent girls that they can take advange of. He married Aaliyah. She came from a 2 parent household with lots of love and support. Along comes this predator and he finds himself alone in the studio with her. I remember interviews where they were dressed alike (adolescent behavior). They both spoke of him bringing her Teddy Bears and it getting hot in the studio. Someone should have stepped in then. It's relevant today because he's most likely still at it. Money aside, he's still a pedophile!

Anonymous said...

You perverts who are blaming the girls are really sick. I guess you think every 14 year old girl craves having a middle aged man pissing in her mouth and making her swallow it, and doing other depraved things to her.

R. Kelly is a PEDOPHILE who regularly approaches young girls himself and sends his goons out to procure victims for him. He preys on a certain type, like most pedos do. One girl remembered that R and his entourage attempted to abduct her and her friends when they refused to get into the car with these grown ass men.

R Kelly would have these girls under control, and he forced them to recruit other girls for his sick pleasures. His crew, the adults in their families, all enabled him to keep doing this. I can believe that he might be going broke, especially if he is paying people off $100,000 to $1 million a head.

And he still gets away with it because black girls are STILL not valued in this society. Young black girls and black women are still seen as sex toys and cumbuckets for any many who wants them.

Anonymous said...

10:12 #1 Hang yaself slow. What about a child gets a gown man horny?

Anonymous said...

grown

Anonymous said...

@10:12 #2
Your mother failed you completely. I hope you received some kind of counseling in your life. That behavior will poison every relationship you come across, sexual or not. I'm not trying to be rude or shame you because you are a victim. Your words suggest that you don't see yourself as one, but you are. Do you still speak with your stepfather?

Anonymous said...

1. R Kelly and Jerry Sandusky are two peas in a pod. They are sick pedophiles who used their power, authority, and influence to pull in their prey and get away with their crimes time and again.

2. R has a routine and a system. It is really said that half the community in Chicago knows about his rep and the majority of the young girls he approached knew that something was wrong with him. Luckily, they were aware enough to avoid getting pulled into his web of lies and perversion.

3. Aaliyah's parents basically sold their daughter to R Kelly, and when shit got real, her mother finally decided to cry foul. The conspiracy theorists all like to talk about Illuminati and all that bullshit, but here we have a real life sacrifice: Aaliyah's body and soul were sacrificed to R Kelly for fame.

4. I guess some people don't remember what it was like to be 14 in middle school or high school, and weird it would be to have some 30 year old man constantly hanging around your school. R was so cocky with it, that a lot of the girls have said they knew he was creepy because he would always be back a few months later doing the same thing.

5. All you really have to do is listen to his songs to see how sick and depraved this man is. With every new album, his lyrics regress even more. He even dresses like a teenager. Now he is like a 13 year old boy trapped in a 50 year old man's body.

I Talk Reckless On the Internet said...

Reading some of these comments proves that a lot of people don't give a fuck about girls or children in general. We don't give our kids a chance to grow, we just tell them they wanted it or should have known better. But the ADULT in the situation is just a "prayed upon man/artist/teacher/preacher/etc...".

This dude is fucking mental and would inhale his last breath if he came anywhere near my kid. DON'T SUPPORT THE BULLSHIT!!!

Anonymous said...

This sickens me. It does take two, but he is a manipulative, dirty ass old man who promised all these things to get what he wanted.

Anonymous said...

Kellz gave Aaliyah an STD. He married her because he thought she was pregnant and he thought his career would be over if word got out that he knocked up his teenage protege. Once they found out she wasn't pregnant but had an STD, he had the marriage annuled and made her since a confidientiality agreement.

Aaliyah's mom wanted Kellz for herself, and he used the mom to get closer to Aaliyah.

Kellz would pick out new victims from the music class at Kenwood. He pretended to be giving back to the community, but used his status and money to keep abusing girls.

Anonymous said...

10:12 That's what I'm talking about somebody telling the truth. Most of these heauxs on here lie and lie and lie about everything. Breath of fresh air when someone tells the truth. All the luck to you 10:12 hope you enjoyed yourself and have fond memories of the experience..

I Talk Reckless On the Internet said...

@10:33 - AWESOME COMMENT

Anonymous said...



This sickens me. It does take two, but he is a manipulative, dirty ass old man who promised all these things to get what he wanted.
10:40 AM
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14 year old girls cannot give consent to sex.
14 year old girls are usually in 8th grade or 9th grade, depending on what month they were born in.
Most 14 year old girls have not even fully developed, and some have not started having periods yet.
14 year old girls havent' even been exposed to higher level math, logic, complex history, or classic literature yet.

14 year old girls do not have the emotional maturity, the life experience, the mental capacity, or the physical ability to endure the shit that pedophiles like R Kelly put them through.

They are not legally allowed to give consent to sex, nor should they be.

Stop blaming the victims.

If your 14 year old daughter, or niece, or sister, or cousin, or friend was lured in and victimized by a pedophile, I bet you wouldn't be claiming she was a fast-tailed slut.

Anonymous said...

These girls enjoyed every moment with Kellz and you all know it. These are not the type of girls you bring home to mama and you all know it.

Anonymous said...

How many ex-hoes are in here? This post is clearly bringing flashbacks.

Anonymous said...

Most of these victims took the pay offs because they and the families knew that the victims would be put on trial instead of R Kelly.

-What were you doing hanging out at the school yard? You should have been in class or on your way home.

- Why would you believe that R Kelly thought you could sing and wanted to produce a record for you?

- Why would you agree to let him pee on you and piss in your mouth? Don't you know that's nasty, and that good girls don't do things like that?

- You know R kelly is an important man, why would you tell these lies about someone who is giving back to the community when he doesn't have to?

Anonymous said...

So are we going to just gloss over the fact that yes, a lot of young Black girls are out of control, twerking, fucking, cursing, etc.? This new generation is even worst.

Anonymous said...



These girls enjoyed every moment with Kellz and you all know it. These are not the type of girls you bring home to mama and you all know it.
10:53 AM
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I guess that makes "sweet, angelic, innocent" Aaliyah the same?

FOH, you're just as sick as Robert Kelly. You must be one of those people who would sell your own relative if you thought she was impressionable enough.

The FBI should be scanning this post for IP addresses. Some sick individuals posting here today.

Anonymous said...



So are we going to just gloss over the fact that yes, a lot of young Black girls are out of control, twerking, fucking, cursing, etc.? This new generation is even worst.
10:56 AM
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So are we going to gloss over the fact that R. Kelly is a KNOWN pedophile who has paid millions of dollars to buy the silence of the victims' families and people in the community and the industry?

What does girls twerking and cursing have to do with R. Kelly raping and abusing underaged girls?

Girls have been doing popular dances since time began, and adults have thought the dances were too risque for just as long. People thought the Charleston was a scandalous dance back in the 1910s and 1920s.

Kids cursing and doing what kids do does not give a pedophile permission to rape them.

dreadee said...

I have been a 14 year old girl and have a 14 year old daughter now. This shit sickens me. I don't give a fuck if a girl if fast or what not, he is a predator and a pedophile, no matter how you sick bastards spin it. Seriously, what the hell?! I have taught my daughter to respect herself and her body, because when I was 14 I did the same. When a grown man approached me, they got told in a tone to go the hell away, I did not give a shit what gifts or whatever they had. There are plenty of grown ass women who can give this man what he needs. He destroyed lives, and if any parent was or does participate in that for money, they need their ass whipped too!!! And if my daughter did decide to engage in relations with a grown man, I'm whipping her ass like a grown woman. Enough said.

Anonymous said...

10:58, Bitch it's quite evident that you have been here ALL morning trying to patrol every comment that is not in agreement with yours. Not everyone feels the way that you do, deal with it, damn. There are always more than one side to a story--and it's QUITE obvious that you are taking these girls' sides. You must be a relative or a scorned ex-lover of R.Kelly's. And quit trying to brand people as pedophiles. You are a fool to believe that young teenage girls are so naive as to not know what sex is, how to have it, and who to have it with. Get the fuck out of here.

Anonymous said...

11:04, Any young bitch letting a nigga piss on her should be examined for psychological issues. Keep making excuses for these young hoes.

Anonymous said...

@11:06

I hope you and the other people who support pedophiles don't have any children.

Obviously some of these people are trolling, but a lot of you seem to be too invested in defending R. Kelly.

I could see if we were talking about some legal aged women who used him for a come-up, but we're talking about a man in his 30s preying on middle school kids. You can't see anything wrong with that?

God help these young girls with people like you out there ready to throw them under the bus for R. Kelly and the other pedophiles.

I Talk Reckless On the Internet said...

@11:06/ @11:08 You are either a Troll or a Dick Rider. I'm not sure which but whatever you are, your stupidity is a fucking tragedy. Get some help.

--Continue to type your bullshit and then sip bleach slow. I'm clicking off this article. I don't slap box with idiots on the damn internet.

Anonymous said...

I saw the tape and don't remember her being asked anything b4 the piss shower.

Anonymous said...

This is ALL R. Kelly's fault! Those girls were innocent and naive! They were forced to do this with him! I even heard some of his security team picked the girls up (physically) and walked them to his house to do this! The girls had NO minds of their own! Their parents did such an excellent job raising them and for R. Kelly to have manipulated them is wrong! Again, this is ALL R. Kelly's fault! Those girls are innocent! 14 and 15 year olds are incapable of thinking for themselves! They don't know right from wrong! They are nothing but little girls! R. Kelly was wrong!

Anonymous said...

No one has to "brand" the dude a pedophile. He likes to fuck underage girls and even YOU did not deny that. He IS a pedophile. It does not matter if the girl is naive or worldly - they were underage. Fucking underage girls is the definition of pedophilia. Dang, get off the man's nuts!!

Anonymous said...

ped·o·phil·i·a (pd-fl-, pd-) n.
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.

Anonymous said...

@10:12, there are plenty of studies that show that being sexually abused as a child leads to promiscuous sexual behavior. Get your head out of the sand. It is also commonly known that R. Kelly was sexually abuse as young teen by the neighbor male child molester. Was R. Kelly asking to be abused as a teen boy lusting over grown man to sex him down? Oh a forgot in Blackistan sexually abuse does exist if it happens to young Black girls. R. Kelly should get so professional help before someone kills him.

Anonymous said...

Many of you on here do not have the mental capacity to handle or the stomach to look truth in the face and accept it as fact. However, if it bothers you do something about it.

Anonymous said...

Look at our communities and what goes on in them and this will explain the comments pertaining to R Kelly. Our communities are the one's where in some cases we see little girls walking with grown men also known as pimps selling these little girls and we all sit back and say nothing until we get on a blog and now we are surprise that some of us are defending this pedofile. There is no cure for the sickness this man has. Envision this pervert without money and fame and he is just a perverted old almost 50 year old man who likes little girls.

If he will sleep with a 15 year old he will sleep with a 12 or 13 year old. You think he stopped naw he just has better people around him who will stoop to any level and keep things quiet until he pisses them off and then pictures and another tape will re-surface.

The reason black men as a whole have such a hard time in life is because of the way they do their women, children, and there community as a whole. Get it together black men and start protecting what's yours. This man is sick and he will never stop and I know because I was raised by a man just like him and when I tell you unless they are stopped they don't stop.

Anonymous said...



@10:12, there are plenty of studies that show that being sexually abused as a child leads to promiscuous sexual behavior. Get your head out of the sand. It is also commonly known that R. Kelly was sexually abuse as young teen by the neighbor male child molester. Was R. Kelly asking to be abused as a teen boy lusting over grown man to sex him down? Oh a forgot in Blackistan sexually abuse does exist if it happens to young Black girls. R. Kelly should get so professional help before someone kills him.
11:23 AM
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Unfortunately, many children have suffered through abuse, but most of them do not grow up to abuse other children or to commit other sex crimes.

Countless molestation and child rape survivors have told their stories, and most of them are not abusers and rapists, because they know how horrible it is first hand.

Stop giving excuses to this monster.

The people who comment on this site are really bizarre. The same people who act like having kids out of wedlock is the cardinal sin are on here defending pedophiles.

Just sick.

Anonymous said...

Why are the talented ones like Kelly, Brown and MJ(R.I.P) always the batshit crazy ones?

Anonymous said...

11:31, Why have you been on this same post all morning? It is so obvious that out of 66 comments, 58 are yours. We get it. R. Kelly is a pedophile. Anything else? There ain't shit your long-winded, drawn out comments can do to him OR those girls. Instead of being on this blog, why don't you start a Molestation Survivor's non-profit organization or something? Were you molested yourself? You just are a bit too pressed over this issue. Go find you a purpose outside of this blog. Your comments, not matter how many of them you post, will not move any mountains. Fall back.

Anonymous said...

R. kelly was lucky that the internet was not around early in his career & that people have short attention spans. I remember there were two accusers before 1995 but they were dismissed as groupies, liars, & wanting money. The situation is sick but we are just as sick when we get that "Oh she is fast tail, having sex anyway " type & we don't hold these predators accountable. Young men are abused too.@9:09 is the truth

Anonymous said...

You bitches in here are probably the ones who laugh and replay TerRio's Vine/YouTube videos. Parading an overweight 6 or 7 year old little Black around the hood for laughs is child abuse, but I don't see any comments regarding THAT form of child abuse. You people are always on some selective outrage shit.

Anonymous said...

@11:38

Why are you offended by the truth? Do you complain about the Beyonce stans posting 50-11 comments on multiple posts each day?

Have a seat with the rest of the R Kelly defenders.

Anonymous said...

I actually agree with @10:12 #1. There are plenty of promiscuous girls out here and while some of them become so due to early child molestation, many of them are peer pressured into "doing it" because everyone else is "doing it", and there are some piss-poor and neglectful parents out in the world who don't even know (or care) if their child is in school on a regular basis. While these young girls likely didn't know any better they knew who he was and what they could get out of him, like so many other fast young girls with misplaced priorities.

It's funny how some people in here will cast down hellfire and brimstone on R. Kelly being a pedophile, but stand arm in arm with/for the homosexuals that are being placed all over the media. If you're gonna stand for one form of sexual deviance stand for them all. Pedophilia didn't start with R. Kelly and it sure as hell won't end with him. The Black community is so fucked up and wishywashy they contradict their own principles the minute they speak of them.

Anonymous said...

Had this been Dakota Fanning.......

Anonymous said...

There is no problem with the 14 & 15 yr. old girls because most of them a baby mamas anyway. Why all the noise?

Anonymous said...

Long time lurker...the age of murder is the same in every state.
however the age of consensual sex is different. In some states its as low as 14...Google it. Why is this? If these minor girls were to commit a crime you can bet they would be charged as adults. Our people don't get out raged at the sexualization of black girls. Where is the 72 comments on BET videos that come on everyday. Or songs on the radio. How about female singers like Rihanna, Beyoncé, Miley...and what they sing about? Where the 142 comments about victimization when they sing how adult sexual themes. Hmmmm? How about yall go on you tube and type in booty popping or twerking.....what do you see....hmmm where the outrage then? Do you still support You Tube? Hmmmm ? We victimize our selves....and condone all the above behavior...when you are silent? So miss me with all that if R Kelly was in West Virginia it would have been legal?

Anonymous said...

You negroes can not think for yourselves. You're the most sorry, hypocritical, lazy group of people that exists on this earth.

-you still embrace/cling to a religion that your ancestors' slavemasters used to justify keeping you enslaved

-holy houses catering to said religion are on every street corner with a pastor who drives a bently while you sheep are catching the bus or driving hoopty's

-you hoot and holler about a white hispanic killing a black thug (out of self defense) yet show NO concerns for the 600+ negroes who were murdered since his death

-you allow all kinds of non-blacks (arabs, koreans, indians, etc.) into your neighborhoods to sell you alcohol, cash your checks so you can buy lottery tickets, sell you processed foods, and they take that wealth back to THEIR communities

-if there is a black business owner in a black "community" you negroes do not support them, you always have your handout looking for "the hook-up"

-with over a BILLION dollars generated by negroes alone almost annually, you possess no control over that money

-you still brag about eating the most unhealthy food, claiming you want to be "thick" for your ignorant negroe thug, but when you get diabetes and on the brink of a heart attack from being 300 lbs overweight you want to pray to GEEEEEEEEEEZUUUUUUUSS!!!! to make you feel better

-you make careers about being welfare queens and section 8 scallywags. This has gone on for almost FOUR generations and counting

-you possess no kind of culture that is beneficial to Black America or America as a whole (unless you count rainbow weaves, twerking, sagging pants in baggy or skinny jeans to be "culture")

-you are the most homophobic people, claiming everyone is gay for what they wear and how they live THEIR life

-you uphold marriage as some sort of standard, when most negroes are not faithful to their significant other

-you justify using the word 'nigger' which your slavemasters called you by "taking the word back" and making it powerful, while also calling each other bitches and ho's on the daily

-almost none of you are politically inclined. You have no idea what your local representatives' agendas are or how they benefit you let alone the president's stance on his policies, which brings me to the next point

-you support the president simply because he's black, which is the most racist thing ever

-you people are overly emotional, and lack logical thinking

-you single mothers talk down to and emasculate your men when they are children, and they grow up to become disrespectful bastards and you ask "LAAAAAAWWWD GEEEEEEEEEZUUUUUSSS!!!! WHYYYYYY??? Ah caint fahnd uh guuud man????"

-most of you are the eternal perpetual victims, stay blaming the white man for everything, yet will follow him from the ends of the earth to the pits of hell (if there were such a place)

You negroes constantly put your foots in your proverbial big mouths so you can never "check" ANYONE. You simple negroes will be left in the history books with your twerking, your bullshit religion, your racism, your sexism, your ebt/welfare cards, and everything else that is the bane of this country.

Anonymous said...

Long Time Lurker...So stop with the soap box drama and maybe try to practice what you preach or mentor some young black females. How about you grown women stop that nasty habit of popping your ass in public? Hmmmm how about that. Set the example? Black women have been condoning booty popping and nasty dancing in public for how long? Its like it has become a national treasure in our community. How about yall do a million woman march against nasty public dancing...Crickets? Wearing skin tight cloths like leggings, freakum dresses and booty shorts like is a uniform on the dailey. What kind of example are yall setting? Its your fault black woman Im sorry its the truth. No wonder these girls are gobbling up the D. You taught them

Niyabinghi Warrior said...

These little girls were failed by their parents/parent. at 14/15 how do you as a parent not know what your child is up to? we live in an hyper sexual depraved society, however if parents are not on their jobs their children will fall prey to depraved deviants like this. somebody should have put a bullet in his head a long time ago. as for the poster who wonder who would do business with a pedophile, the industry media, print, music and movie is run by pedophiles. pedophiles run the judicial and social service systems. parents have got to be on their jobs, watch your school officials too its also a breeding ground for pedophiles. our children are our most precious gems and their are predators around every corner as the old saying goes monkey know which tree to climb.

Anonymous said...

i don't know what's sicker, r.kelly & his black panties tracklisting or the dumb muthafuckas on this board blaming the victims. disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Co-Sign 12:12, 100% all day every day till the end of time. They don't make sense about anything. What to do with them?

Anonymous said...

12:12, Thank you and I co-sign you big time.

Anonymous said...

Lets see, so you're saying the Kellz taught all these young girls about sexual intercourse, right? or he should have called their parents when they disrobed and spread their legs?

Anonymous said...

@12:12=TruthI want to add all og the sorry kids & grandkids that let their parents homes go in disrepair & let the neighborhoods go bad. Is it no wonder whyWhite people don't want us in their neighborhoods?

Thisculture hasnever acknowledged pedophilia & blame the victim. Black people wake up.

Anonymous said...

I use to love R. kelly before he did what he did. now, i can't even look at him. his music doesnt' sound the same anymore.

zeeedeee said...

@dreadee 11:06..yes my sentiment exactly...i would snatch the black off my daughter if she even thought about fallin for that okd man bullshit cause I teach her better...ok so let it be said that it ain't just little black girls doin this nasty shit..our babies are just the ones who get blasted for it..believe me when I tell you thus here been goin on in white Latino and Asians cultures forever..it's only not new it is encouraged...and even if a girl is hot in the ass an adult does not have the right to take advantage of that...this how mf's end up dead

Anonymous said...

11:53...You are an IDIOT!!! Homosexuality and pedophilia ARE NO WHERE NEAR the same thing!!! And to all of you IDIOTS that like to blame young rape victims, WAIT until RAPE visits YOUR world. I BET your viewpoint will do a 360!!! Idiots!!!

Anonymous said...

Your babies are out there twerking ass better than a 35 yr. old street woman. GTFOH

zeeedeee said...

@10:12...my heart goes out to you..i have an 11 year old son whose best friend has a little boy crush on me and I would NEVER touch that child...just because a child get's fascinated or curious about or by sex doesnt give anyone the green light to take liberties..even tho you don't see yourself as it the fact still remains that you are a victim..and btw there are no statue of limitations on child molestation so if you ever come to you can handle that!..best of luck dear heart

Anonymous said...

there is no rape here...young yes rape no

Anonymous said...

There are a lot of men just like r kelly. The funny part is they will kill a guy for touching their daughter. Irony

Anonymous said...

Black people & our retarded way of thinking. Does any other cuulture have the Fast, hot tail" little girls? We must end that way of thinking. We are a culture of enablers & we never make anyone take reaponsibility

Anonymous said...

R. Kelly did not rape these girls.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but I can't solely blame R. Kelly. A lot of us (Blacks) raise our daughters up to be hoes, period. I, too, have seen little Black girls posing in pictures with their hips and butts stuck out and with their hands on their hips. Remember that song "Shake What Ya Mama Gave Ya"? I remember Black women (young and old) were going crazy over that song in the 90s, twerking to it, gyrating to it, etc. We create a culture of hypersexual activity and we teach it to our children. We teach our sons to think with their dicks, giving them condoms, and high-fiving them when they tap a girl out. We teach our daughter to use what they have to get what they want, and we also teach them to go after a man with the hottest car, the biggest wallet, and the flashiest clothes. Am I wrong? Of course not.

Yep, R. Kelly, as a grown man, should have known better than to fuck around with these underage girls, but I don't think these girls were forced at all. They were probably sexually experienced and were happy to be in the company of a man of Kelly's status.

I also commend 12:12 for their TRUTHFUL post. Black people, as a whole, are l o s t.

Anonymous said...

Uhhh....sexing an underage person is considered rape in the eyes of the law. I guess you have never heard of statutory rape.

Anonymous said...

"And he still gets away with it because black girls are STILL not valued in this society. Young black girls and black women are still seen as sex toys and cumbuckets for any many who wants them."

Truth. Their mamas don't care either..Hey it's R. Kelly, get the money, help pay mamas bills. Disgusting. Our daughters should matter. WE don't start petitions/charity for this but we sure as hell can start one for GZ or for a light skin woman playing a dark skin woman in a movie. It is wrong for any adult to pursue a child for sex. I don't care what country it is prevalent in or the norm. It is nasty.

Anonymous said...

Long time lurker...OR LTL....the age of murder is the same in every state.
however the age of consensual sex is different. In some states its as low as 14...Google it. Why is this? If these minor girls were to commit a crime you can bet they would be charged as adults. Our people don't get out raged at the sexualization of black girls. Where is the 72 comments on BET videos that come on everyday. Or songs on the radio. How about female singers like Rihanna, Beyoncé, Miley...and what they sing about? Where the 142 comments about victimization when they sing how adult sexual themes. Hmmmm? How about yall go on you tube and type in booty popping or twerking.....what do you see....hmmm where the outrage then? Do you still support You Tube? Hmmmm ? We victimize our selves....and condone all the above behavior...when you are silent? So miss me with all that if R Kelly was in West Virginia it would have been legal? Yes it would . every sate has its own idea of what an adult is when it comes to sex. !5 is 12 months away from 16...suddenly your old enough to understand. The age of consent is completely different in two states side by side. Who is to blame YOU BLACK WOMAN...YOU...YOU TWERKED,BOOTY SHORTED, PUSSY POPPED, SUNG SEXUALIZED SONGS, HAD SEX IN FRONT OF, SKIN TIGHT LEGGINGS STRUTED, AND EXPERTLEY TRAINED THESE GIRLS TO GET IT POPPING...NOW PROTEST ABOUT YOUR OWN BEHAVIOUR...BE DISGUSTED AT YOUR OWNSELF

Anonymous said...

Only Black rappers/singers make songs about shaking what your mama gave ya, looking at them girls with daisy dukes on, pumps and a bump, etc. And only Black people buy and listen to these type of songs. We are our own downfall.

Anonymous said...

@2:05pm. You would be wrong. You would be surprised at the numbers of White kids who listen to this filth - especially the rap. There is a saying that if a rapper depended on Black people to buy their music, they would all be bagging groceries.

Bee Gee said...

I'ont give a fuck how you look at it, that negro is a predator. Predators usually prey on the most weak and vulnerable. So nothing else about our society/culture, even how ratchedly many of our children are raised, absolves this muthafucka or any other predator from guild. NOTHING. Do yourself a favor and go online today and see how many registered sexual predators are spread out on your ground and surrounding thatass.

My son asked me while we were eating dinner a month ago "Pop do you think it's weird that the new white dude is always walking his dog? He walks it like 10-15 times a day and he usually comes out when (teenage white female neighbor) is out walkin' her dog.." So through observation I started noticing what sonny was talking about. I see this man come flyin' out his house one day when the girl was outside taking groceries in for her mom. And he isn't even walking the dog, the muthafugga is just standing there more or less while the dog is trying to pull him - not even at least slick about his bullshit. So I check the local registry and sho' enough, this free ass white man had two cases against minors on his profile: CRIMES AGAINST NATURE (SODOMY) and TAKING INDECENT LIBERTIES WITH CHILDREN. Right under a nigga nose and with all kinds of teen ass in the neighborhood to stalk. Fuck R. Kelly and anybody that's ever been like him. Hopefully the next article about him is somebody putting a .44 slug in his chest for fuckin with their daughter..

zeeedeee said...

@1:09 MY babies ain't out there doin none if that vulgur shit..i despise twerkin and boot bouncin booty shorty booty shots and all that garbage..i teach self respect to my son and daughter so when they see these atrocities they aren't lead by peer pressure...but even if some patents can't or don't it does not give a fuckin pervert the right to abuse...you can't make that make sense!

Anonymous said...

I CAN NEVER SUPPORT ANYONE LIKE THIS SICK MONSTER. EVERY TIME HE APPEARS ON TV OR THE RADIO,I TURN TO ANOTHER CHANNEL. THIS FILTHY MONSTER IS SATANS SON INDEED

zeeedeee said...

@2:05 thank you..it's their money that make it possible for these rappers to be large..they live this shit more than blacks do

zeeedeee said...

@beegee you know I'm cosigning that .44 caliber slug right?

Anonymous said...

Bee Gee, so he should be shot?

Anonymous said...

@11:31, obviously you missed the point. I was reflecting on the double standard as to how young black girls are treated regarding rape and sexual abuse. The reason why young Black girls don’t come forward when raped or abuse is because there is always some Blackistians out there ready to blame the young Black girl for her own rape . But when a male rapes a young boy then it’s a different story. Young Black girls are not a protected class even by their own people. If a young white girl is ganged raped by a group of men she is seen and protected as a victim. If is it a young Black girl with same set of circumstances then everybody calls for a Town hall meeting, prayer groups and rally’s to make sure the Black men’s rights aren’t violated. To hell with what the victim has been through. R. Kelly went onto school grounds to recruit these teens. Do you know that if you are not a parent or faulty on school grounds you can be arrested on the spot? You know why? Because of monsters like R. Kelly. He didn’t have children at the school he had no business being there. Well we all know celebrities get a pass in Blackistan. Yes you are correct not all abuse victims abuse others but if the victim is a Black girl nobody cares about her including her own people.

Anonymous said...

Predator. Plain and Simple. I use to be a big fan but will not listen or especially buy his music. For those of you putting some of the blame on the girls…Looking at you 7:50. Would you trust a 14 or 15 year old to do an important business decision for you no matter how smart they are against a seasoned professional adult?
8:14 AM
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You said all that I wanted to say. I can't with this man. I knew people that knew how he got around, and some of the folks always want to blame it on the girls. It may take two, but one HAS to have common sense (and it's usually the older person in this situation).

Anonymous said...

FROM LTL OR LONG TIME LURKER..@BEE GEE Stop with the soap box drama and maybe try to practice what you preach or mentor some young black females. And How about you grown women stop that nasty habit of popping your ass in public? Hmmmm how about that. Set the example? Black women have been condoning booty popping and nasty dancing in public for how long? Its like it has become a national treasure in our community. How about yall do a million woman march against nasty public dancing...Crickets? Wearing skin tight cloths like leggings, freakum dresses and booty shorts like is a uniform on the dailey. What kind of example are yall setting? Its your fault black woman Im sorry its the truth. No wonder these girls are gobbling up the D. You taught them........ @BEE GEE PREDITORS YOU SAY?..DO YOU INCLUDE RECORD LABEL EXECS..BET...RAPPERS...PORNSTARS...ISNT THERE BEHAVIOUR PREDITORY...WOULD YOU 44 SLUG THEM TOO...WHERE IS YOUR LONG DIATRIBE ON THE REPETITIVE MUSIC PROGRAMMING SELLING SEX SEX SEX SEX...HAVE YOU CALLED THE RADIO STATION ...DOES YOUR SON LISTEN TO HIPHOP.. WILL YOU BUM RUSH THE BABY MOMA IN LEGGINGS AT THE GROCERY STORE WITH A 44... WITH HER ASS ALL BUBBLED AND ON DISPLAY HOLDING HER DAUGHTERS HAND...WHERE IS YOUR PROTEST ABOUT ALL THIS PREDITORY BEHAVIOR...WELL???

Anonymous said...

I'm tired of hearing or reading, "well I know 13-15 that want to have sex and seek out older men," that is no excuse for an adult to take/accept what a child is offering. If R. Kelly got caught messing with a white girl from the suburbs of Chicago, he would be under the jail right now. We as community need to stop sexualizing our young girls and we need to stop others from doing it as well. Also a lot of these young girls mimic the behaviors around them and/or they have been sexually abused by someone else first. A child that is overly sexual at a young is age is/was most likely being abused. So the next you say or hear some say, "that girl's fast or that fast tailed little girl," remember that child is probably being abused or was in the past and the way they act is the the only way they know how to act.

Anonymous said...

I co-sign with Long Time Lurker.

Question: To those of you in here who hate Robert Kelly; do you hate pornography as well? What about strip clubs? The situation with R. Kelly, porn, and strip clubs ALL center around one thing: SEX. Why is it that we will "approve" of one sexual entity, but shun another? I'm not condoning anything, but I just wonder, WHO or WHAT sets the "rules" for such things? I'm sure all of you have watched porn and somebody's daughter was on the film fucking, getting fucked, etc. Is it ok because the girl on the porn film was 18 or older? Is it ok because porn is the girl's profession?

Please chill with this fake selective outrage shit, for real.

Anonymous said...

I commend BeeGee for being proactive about is community and using the blame game. Just remember sexual predators depend on adults not being proactive. As long as Black adults blame the child/teen for the abuse you are making it easier for him to collect more victims.

Anonymous said...

@2:58 Have you ever had sex with an underage male or female? If no, what's stopping you? Last time I check you had to be an adult to legal work and visit a strip club. Are you comparing high schools to strip clubs? Whatever happens at the strip club is okay for the school grounds as well? I you think it is okay for an adult male to try and pick up teen girls at the playground? I would encourage you to get some professional help you can't see the difference between a strip club and high school.

Anonymous said...

This reminds me of an episode of Iyanla Fix My Life. This Black woman was stuck with raising her younger teen sister. Her younger sister told her that her sister’s adult boyfriend was always inappropriate with her. The older sister ignored her teen sister and allows the boyfriend to live in the house. When the older sister would go away on business trips she would leave her teen sister home alone with the grown boyfriend. He raped the girl repeatedly and they when she got pregnant she told his girlfriend that the younger sister seduce him. The older sister to this day refers to her sister has a whore that sexed her boyfriend. The older sister didn’t even realize by labeling her sister a whore that she just gave the boyfriend free reign to continue to raped the younger sister and other girls. This was not hood chick. This woman was a top VP in her corporate firm. She was so busy climbing the corporate ladder that she left her sister in the sinister hands of a child molester. These were Black folks. SMH.

Anonymous said...

2:58 PM are you stupid. The situation with R. Kelly is not about sex, it about rape and his inappropriate behavior with underage girls. R. Kelly could live in a strip club and host orgy's with every available 18 year old in Chicago for all care, as long as everyone gave consent and are willing there.
When an adult engages in any sexual activity with a minor under the age of consent, that adult is commenting rape and or sexual assault. Even if the child seemingly wants to have sex or engage in sexual activity with an adult they can not give consent under any circumstance. So the adult should know better then to engage an underage minor in sex.

Anonymous said...

This has turned into slut shaming when there's no reason. A fast ass lil girl is just that: a fast ass LITTLE GIRL!!! This is a grown ass man we're talking about! Just cuz he can sing, yall willing to give him a pass, smdh. Hopefully he never "steps in the name of love" to ur kids' bedroom...

Anonymous said...

Oh and whoever congratulated some chick on screwing her step daddy at TEN is a sick bitch who needs tobe sterilized. God help urkids if u have any...

Anonymous said...

3:06/3:09, I understand that you are the same person and have been in here ALL day posting. I never, ever compared a strip club to a high school, you stupid ass bitch. Second of all, LIKE I SAID, the basis for this R. Kelly situation, strip clubs, and pornography is sex. R. Kelly HAD SEX with these girls, strip clubs SELL SEX, and pornography DISPLAYS SEX. At the end of the day, ALL of this shit is about sex.

I also said in my comment that I wasn't condoning anything. I was simply asking questions and your dumb ass is clearly incapable of answering my legitimate questions.

I bet money that your ass is an ex-hoe and this R.Kelly situation brings back memories for your prostituting ass. Fuck out of here and make sure your daughters don't make the same mistakes you did, hoe.

Anonymous said...

So we are comparing porn to underage rape? Those WOMEN sign up for that because they are grown. Child pornography is not the same as Deep Throat 6 porn. Hos, black and white, men and women, bust it open for dollars. Children don't.

Anonymous said...

Hand Clap for Bee Gee.

Anonymous said...

Second 3:17, You make no sense. Log the fuck off.

Bee Gee said...

Word up @ zeeedeee

@2:36pm - Yes. He should be shot. In the chest...with a .44

@2:50pm - Peace to you but negro please don't pretend to know me enough to label me as some one who just soap boxes - You don't know me or anything about me and the women I deal with in my life and the way I choose to parent/mentor/support them. You can let that be your last post comin' at me with that bullshit.

Now for you and any others that seem to wanna put part of the blame of this on black women, I HEAR YOU....BUT

As I stated in my first post, none of the ratchedness absolves predators like R. Kelly from PUTTING HIS HANDS ON MINORS. You can spin that shit a thousand times, pour a whole bag of Domino Pure Cane Sugar on the shit, and top it with a cherry... it doesn't excuse him from his responsibility to BEHAVE AS AN ADULT and doesn't at any point permit him to try to stick his dick in a minor, let alone piss on one, convince one to lick another's pussy, ETC.

You R. Kelly fan girls in here even staring down the road of excusing him from need a pint of piss sprayed on you.

Nevermind, you'd probably like the shit.. Fuck whatchu talkin bout. Obviously we need to father our daughters and change that culture, but nigga please. Predators like Robert Kelly exist REGARDLESS OF THE CULTURE. His only requirement is that the girl be underaged. He ain't givin' a fuck whether she's twerking or in a business suit with pants and a chastity belt. and there's a ton of scum just like him.

Anonymous said...

3:17, R. Kelly did not have sex with these girls, he groomed them and RAPED them. Realize that there is a distinct difference between sex and rape/sexual misconduct. When you engage any sexual activity with someone who can not give consent, (due to age, physical impairment, or mental impairment) you are committing rape/sexual assault.
So, how do you even begin to compare the sexually assault of a minor with strip clubs and porn. R. Kelly is a sexual predator, a deviant, a rapist , a hebephile and he anyone else like should be in jail.

Anonymous said...

I don't give a damn who it is or whether this dude thinks my daughter consented - if I get wind of a 30 YO man screwing my 14YO and peeing in her mouth, that dude is dead.

Regardless of whether anyone thinks a young teen is oversexualized, are these R defenders telling me that a grown man is no better than a dog? That he HAS to fuck any female that bats her eyes his way, even if she is in 8th grade?

My daughter is 14YO and she has 14YO female friends. It has never crossed my mind to fuck any of them. They are not grown women, for God's sake!! They don't act like it, they don't talk like it and they damn sure don't think like it. Dude is sick. I mean, come on, he picked up girls at school. This was not a guy who was at the club and thought a 14 YO girl was 21. He specifically went after girls this young!!!! I do not get why folks can't see that.

Anonymous said...

"Second of all, LIKE I SAID, the basis for this R. Kelly situation, strip clubs, and pornography is sex. R. Kelly HAD SEX with these girls, strip clubs SELL SEX, and pornography DISPLAYS SEX. At the end of the day, ALL of this shit is about sex."

You tried to make a logical explanation and failed miserably. This does not have anything to do with R. Kelly's unhealthy sexual appetite for little children. This whole comment doesn't make any sense and displays immaturity.

KenyaDoll said...

I can't today.



I will never buy anything from this nigga for as long as I live. Bastard. He belongs in the charbroil section of Hell.

KenyaDoll said...

@10:12

PLEASE SEEK PSYCHIATRIC CARE.

Anonymous said...

@12:12
YOU JUST GENERALIZED ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS
WHERE ARE YOU FROM?
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WHITES, ASIANS, AFRICANS,HISPANICS, INDIANS?
I DON'T THINK YOU THINK THEIR SHIT SNEAKS

Anonymous said...

I have a few questions:

How was R.Kelly able to pick these girls up from school?

Where were the parents of these girls? I mean damn, don't parents expect their children home around a certain time everyday?

Would any of this be a story if that tape/those tapes had not come out?

Anonymous said...

"NOW I'M THE NIGGA THAT YOU READ ABOUT

IN THOSE FREAKY MAGAZINES.

SOMETIMES I CAN'T BELIEVE MY EARS

AND WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT ME."

ROBERT SYLVESTER KELLY

Anonymous said...

348 Stop grand standing and playing to the twisted lost fantasies of all these old retired heauxs in here. Always the Capt. Save a Ho, to the thrills and delights these beauties. Take your bow and bow out. Thank you very much. GFOH (bullshit con artist)

My .02 Cents... said...

To those that say the girls are fast...
When would his behavior be considered inappropriate?
Seducing an 10 year old girl (she may be prepubescent), letting an 8 year old girl sit in his lap?
What if they were boys?
Would he be considered the R&B Boogeyman then?

They may be fast, twerk 'til 3am, but he's still the ADULT in the situation. And none of us on this blog wrote the law, but that's just what it is - the law.

Anonymous said...

I AM PROUD OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY FOR DRAGGING THIS EVIL CREATURE JUST LIKE THE CANS OF A NEWLYWED'S CAR!!!!!!

Bee Gee said...

Hi-5 @ 3:53pm - Exactly

Anonymous said...

When we blame all of the blame on one party and virtually exclude the other party, that does nothing but create a culture of imbalance. Mr. Kelly should be in jail if he in fact abused these young girls, but what about the girls? Yes, what about them. Shouldn't they, even in their adult years, be counseled about what happened when they were teens? Of course they should be counseled and they should be urged to not repeat the abuse that was placed upon them.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about the rest of you sanctified Kelly haters but I was screwing my 19 year old boyfriend when I was 14 and LOVING IT...Hell BEGGING for it! I'm still screwing him today. We screwed to R. KELLY music when we were were younger and we still screwing to his music in 2013. I LOVE KELLZ! Please note that none of your wicked, heartless judgmental comments are going to stop teen girls from having sex and it damn sure won't stop KELLZ from making MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in music!

Anonymous said...

AI bet everyone on this post has at least one R. KELLY music item in:

Their CD collections
On Illegal Downloads
On PANDORA
On MP3 Skulls
In a novel
TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET saved on DVR (Every chapter)
LIGHT IT UP TOUR DVD
etc, etc, etc.

The world is full of hypocrites and blatant liars. I've been to 6 R. Kelly concerts in my lifetime and that's AFTER all the pedophile talk. At each concert, there was nary an empty seat in the house! For so many people to dislike this man, he sure has MILLIONS of fans. Anybody who says that they threw out all their R. Kelly music and turn the station if he pops on the radio while their driving is LYING so stop it please. I'm listening to KELLZ right now and I know when he says, "Shut up!" he's talking to all of you PHONIES!

Anonymous said...

So to all of you in here who hate R.Kelly, what are you currently doing to ensure protection of your beloved young Black girls? How about you turn the channel when RHOA and L&HH comes on. How about you stop taking Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram photographs with your asses tooted out. How about you stop calling the next Black woman a "bitch" and a "hoe". The change that you want to see starts with you first. Sitting on this blog, talking shit about R. Kelly is fruitless. Make sure you raise your daughters to love themselves enough to reject a grown ass nigga like Kelly. Until then, shut the fuck up with your fake outrage.

Anonymous said...

Stop assuming 4:23. We are a part of the solution ok. It starts with dialogue like this.

Anonymous said...

A young person is easy to get. The adult doesn't want or can handle an adult or an adult relationship.

Anonymous said...

WE LOVE R KELLY TOO!!!!!

Anonymous said...

How come nobody is condemning the mammies, grandmammies and aunties who have been grooming their girl children to be sexed and tricked on by the likes of men like Mr. Robert Kelly for eons? I have heard grown, old black women say that they would have allowed it. I have WITNESSED grown, old black women allowing this!! When I was 16 I had 27 year old boyfriend who I was allowed to ride around with and f#*k with my family's full knowledge and agreement because he had a Benz, spent money and took my aunts wherever they needed to go. I don't remember feeling RAPED or MOLESTED. I would actually fan my little tail in this man's face in the hopes that he'd catch me and you know what??? He caught me! He taught me how to spend money, dress, drive and cum. This ain't new. I just wan't everybody to stop acting like it is and LEAVE R. KELLY ALONE!!!

Anonymous said...

@4:07
ON THIS BLOG ITS NOT THE BLACK COMMUNITY DRAGGING R KELLY TO THE GROUND
SOMEBODY ELSE IS ON THIS BLOG
THEY WANT R KELLY TO EITHER BEND OVER OR GIVE UP THE RIGHTS TO CERTAIN MUSIC
THATS WHY THIS STORY WON'T GO AWAY

Anonymous said...

@4:11 PM and @4:30 PM - All I got to say is DAMN!

Anonymous said...

Shut up!

Anonymous said...

WE LOVE R KELLY!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I would actually fan my little tail in this man's face in the hopes that he'd catch me and you know what??? He caught me! He taught me how to spend money, dress, drive and cum. This ain't new. I just wan't everybody to stop acting like it is and LEAVE R. KELLY ALONE!!!
4:30 PM
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This is some shameful mess rightchea!

KenyaDoll said...

This entire post in a straight up, holy, holy terror MESS. Lord be with the WORLD!

Anonymous said...

LMAO at fanning your tail in a man's face.

Anonymous said...

Yes @4:19PM... ALL these mofos liked trapped in the closet.

Anonymous said...

@ the 1st 3:17, No you need to go back to your comment at 2:58. You compared pornography and strip clubs to what R. Kelly did which were solicited TEEN girls on school grounds. He did not meet any of these TEEN girls at the strip club or on a porn movie sets. Again he meet this TEEN girl at high schools. Why do you give R. Kelly a pass for going to high schools to meet TEEN girls? Do you think this is appropriate behavior for Adult males to visit high schools to meet TEEN girls? R. Kelly went to high schools to meet TEEN girls, they did not go to strip clubs to meet him. Can you at least wrap your little brain around that. Yes I hate pornography but an ADULT women /man they have the legal right do porn or work at strip clubs. Just face the facts that if R. Kelly if had stay away from high schools he would have never meet these TEEN girls. You still didn’t answer the question, have you ever had sex with and under age male or female? Just a fyi, I’m commenter 3:06. 3:09 is a different person.

KenyaDoll said...



How come nobody is condemning the mammies, grandmammies and aunties who have been grooming their girl children to be sexed and tricked on by the likes of men like Mr. Robert Kelly for eons? I have heard grown, old black women say that they would have allowed it. I have WITNESSED grown, old black women allowing this!! When I was 16 I had 27 year old boyfriend who I was allowed to ride around with and f#*k with my family's full knowledge and agreement because he had a Benz, spent money and took my aunts wherever they needed to go. I don't remember feeling RAPED or MOLESTED. I would actually fan my little tail in this man's face in the hopes that he'd catch me and you know what??? He caught me! He taught me how to spend money, dress, drive and cum. This ain't new. I just wan't everybody to stop acting like it is and LEAVE R. KELLY ALONE!!!
4:30 PM

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The Boondocks didn't make that R. Kelly episode for nothing.

Even though I think you are trolling, what the fuck does being Black got to do with this????

White people INVENTED freakadeekism. From the Ancient Romans to the pedophiles in Europe during the Dark Ages! Screwing little boys, spreading diseases! Why the FUCK you think Europeans brought so many goddamn nasty ass diseases to the New World when they plundered the Natives? Can you imagine how many fucking diseases they gave African slave women when they raped them? Or the diseases African slaves (and Irish slaves) contracted while on the ships????

HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE "BLUE PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY"????

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/blue-skinned-people-kentucky-reveal-todays-genetic-lesson/story?id=15759819

Only white folks would be so nasty and deviant that they would cause gene mutation in their family pool by FUCKING their own family members!!!

NAMBLA is ran by a bunch of nasty, ass gay white men that want to fuck little boys!

How many WHITE TEACHERS have been in the news for fucking their underage students? Fuck, they even made a film "Notes On A Scandal"!!!!!!!

White folks are the KINGS AND QUEENS of sexual deviancy!!!!! Black people fucked up when we tried to be like White folks!!!


I am sick of you sheltered niggas on RWS putting everything on Black people. Yes, we do some trifling shit but every sin and act of ignorance is not exclusive to Black people. Yes, we have our own unique issues in the Black community but you all put EVERYTHING on being Black!

I am sick of this shit! You motherfuckas need to go open a damn book or visit your public library! Put the damn weed and Patron down and go educate yourselves!

Anonymous said...

MAYBE HIS PAST WOULDN'T GET REVISITED SO MUCH IF HIS SICK ASS WOULDN'T HAVE YOUNG GIRLS WHO LOOK TO BE IN THEIR EARLY TEENS IN PANTIES & A BRAS SITTING ON HIS PEDOPHILE LAP ON HIS ALBUM COVER... HE'S STILL THE SAME SICKO THAT MARRIED ALLIYAH IN HER EARLY TEENS, HE JUST LEARNED HOW TO BE MORE CAREFUL... BUT LIKE A CANCER, THE SICKNESS WILL ALWAYS COME OUT...

Anonymous said...

Kenya, you are dysfunctional. In your faulty attempt to school Black people on the sexual deviousness of Europeans, you, at the end of your rant, call Black people "motherfuckers", "sheltered niggas", and you allude to the idea that Black people do not read, but instead, drink Patron and smoke weed. You continuously shade yourself. You are not intelligent or even rational. You are the typical angry and delusional female who uses profanity and insults to get her points (or lack thereof) across.

Anonymous said...

Thank you @4:23

The selective outrage with these assholes are ridiculous. Just overly-emotional bitches running rampant through RWS today.

Anonymous said...


@4:23 and how about raising your young Black boys to be gentlemen and treat all women with respect no matter how what. The problem is when a parent try to raise their sons and daughters morally upright you always got some child molester cheerleaders trying to hit that; further encourage sexual behavior. How many of you’ll grown men would try to sex a young pretty underage girl in the neighborhood if you knew she was still a virgin? Most of you’ll. Black folks let your young sons watch porn and they you wonder why they are ruffing and gang raping young girls. Why don’t Black folks speak on these little serial rappers in training that they are raising.

KenyaDoll said...

@4:53

Hey, stalker?!!! What's cooking?

Anonymous said...

This thread is awful. If you cannot see the difference between a man going to a strip club to watch grown women strip and a man going to a high school to pick up 14YOs to fuck, there is nothing I can really say to you.

zeeedeee said...

@4:30 how bout you take that logic to Johnny law and see how far it gets you..better yet take it to the penitentiary and see how they do you...i do think little girls are over sexualized this day and age but it still don't make it ok...two wrongs DO NOT make a right

zeeedeee said...

@5:02 you are so correct about these sleeze ball nasty sum bitches tryin to get at the girls that are being raised right...they feed off their innocence and good upbringin thinkin cause they're mostly sheltered that they must be naive....that is AFTER they get tired of the girls that will do it...@beegee...dude I know that dog walkin trick bullshit too..i have seen it..matter of fact my daughter just pointed out one yesterday..mf knew we knew too cause when he saw us peepin his skeelo he tried to hide his crusty ass face..it's cool tho cause I got sumthin for his ASS!

Anonymous said...

11:53...You are an IDIOT!!! Homosexuality and pedophilia ARE NO WHERE NEAR the same thing!!! And to all of you IDIOTS that like to blame young rape victims, WAIT until RAPE visits YOUR world. I BET your viewpoint will do a 360!!! Idiots!!!
1:06 PM


Homosexuality and Pedophilia are BOTH forms of sexual DEVIANCE! Meaning they are not NATURAL! In fact, both were listed in the DSM-IV as mental illness over 40 years ago...

Until you acknowledge and accept that FACT then you will forever look like a hypocrite shaming/condemning someone like R.Kelly while praising someone like Ellen DeGeneres....

Anonymous said...

@KenyaDoll I aint trolling Prettygirl, re:your response to my comment. I was definitely getting d*#$ed down by a 27 year old man when I was 16 and EVERYBODY IN MY FAMILY knew about it. If you think I'm lying you can Google my wild ass family history. Check out The LeGrand's of Brooklyn, NY. Anyway, I'm angry because everyone have turned R. Kelly into such a Pariah (hope that's the right word) and trying to make him pay for every man's sins when what he does is happening everyday. Sad to say but men like R. Kelly are a lot of young, black women's first experience with a older man and it is usually accepted by the girl's family. Then we get on blogs and everybody PRETENDS to hate R. Kelly! I was actually banned from a black woman's site for making a comment that I loved R. Kelly during a Kellz bashing post where all the women was fronting likie they hate Kellz so much. :(

Anonymous said...

@ The first 5:23PM --- Are you and the second 5:23 PM MARRIED TO EACH OTHER?! It's getting hot in here now!

Anonymous said...

@5:15, thank you. There are Black parents that are trying their best to raise their sons and daughters upon to be upstanding young adults. Even Chris Rock pathetic ass tried make a joke about it, stating that it is easy for women to turn down sex because men been trying to screw you since you were 12 yrs. old. There are young little boys and girls that don't even like to opposite sex yet but you got adults asking if they have a boyfriend or a girlfriend when they are like 9 and 10 yrs.old. Then you got little girls and boys who get called gay because they are still virgins at 12 yrs old.

God forbid if you are a teen virgin girl then you got grown men trying to hire you as a babysitter so they can get you in their home alone to try and rape you. Yes that is one of the new molester tricks. Hire her to babysitter, drug her, rape her then label her a whore freak. You got all these adults grooming young people but want to place the blame on the child. SMH.

Anonymous said...

The investigative reporter who broke this story said something along the lines of "the population who gets the least about of care is young black girls." So many people in here throwing blame on the victims and not the teachers who knew a grown man was stalking the playground, theoretically a place where kids should feel safe. That song title "marry the pussy"? That was allegedly a line said to Aaliyah, whose mother cried on the reporter's shoulders about how her daughter's life was ruined after Kellz got her.

I hope more of you read the article, and keep your own fast-ass, blamemable daughters/nieces/cousins/etc. safe. She might be the next one crying about how 2 Chains came on her face 2 times.

KenyaDoll said...

@5:23

Gurl bye!

Well that is your parents fault! Because when I was 16, I wasn't getting dicked by by ANY grown men let alone a teenage boy because my parents protected me and weren't having that, dammit!

It may have been the norm to you but it is NOT THE NORM in society, nor it is healthy. Here, sit-----> _/ And here's two for your mammy and pappy---> __/ __/

Bee Gee said...

@Kenyadoll - speak, fam - great post. Notes on a Scandal was an excellent movie, and like you said, it's an ode to all the white girls that get caught sexin' up 14 year old boys seemingly every 3 weeks in this country. Many of 'em walking free with slaps on the wrist.

@zeeedeee - Lol. Get that muhfugga.

Anonymous said...

@6:00 PM KenyaDoll, your soul must be made of ice. I've been reviewing all the back and forth on this whole R. Kelly debacle and it seems like all that @5:23 PM tried to do was explain her harrowing circumstances to you. She really didn't owe you an explanation for anything yet she chose to share that portion of her life on this post. You of course, went straight for the jugular and cut this woman down. Why?

Anonymous said...

FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL
BRAVO 4:23 .BEST COMMENT ALL DAY LONG....This post is turning out to be the most epic in RWS history. I had to pour a drink for this!!!!!!!. There are some key factors here WHAT IS A MINOR , WHAT IS CONSENT...THE TRUTH IS ITS DIFFRENT IN EVERY STATE AND IT HAS CHANGED OVER TIME AND IT IS DIFFERNT IN OTHER CULTURES. WHAT CAN NOT BE DISPUTED IS THESE GIRLS CONSENTED. THEY SAID YES THEY COULD HAVE SAID NO, ....CORRECT OR AM I WRONG ....NO THANKS KELLZ..IM GOOD. BUT GUESS WHAT THEY SAID YES... OR RATHER HELL YEAH. RAPE ? SORRY ..BECAUSE THEN IT SHOULD BE RAPE IN WEST VA...AND MARYLAND AND TEXAS AND MEMPHIS AND AFRICA AND IRAC AND TURKEY AND AFGHNASTAN....THIS WAS HORNEY YOUNG GIRLS AND A HORNEY OLDER DUDE. SORRY BEE GEE....NOT PREDITORY ...CONSENSUAL..JUST LIKE THOSE GIRLS CAN CONSENT TO GO ROB A BANK OR NOT TO ROB A BANK...CORRECT? MR BEE GEE AND ALL OTHERS STATEING THEY COULD NOT CONSENT...WHY CAN THEY CONSENT TO BOOTY POP, SEXTING, TWERKING, AND DRESSING HALF NAKED...WHY CAN THEY CONSENT TO PICK UP A GUM OR A KNIFE AND BE CHARGED AS AN ADULT. BUT THEYARENT SMART ENOUGH TO CONSENT TO SEX...HUH?? COME AGAIN....ITS WRONG TO ROB THAT BANK SHARKESHA OR TO POP MOLLYS OR TO SMOKE WEED...BUT YOU CANT CONSENT TO SEX...ITS NOT YOUR FAULT YOU DONT HAVE CONTROL OVER OPENING YOUR LEGS...JUST PICKING UP A GUN HUH...HUH...HUH...REALLY !!!!!!!!UNLESS YOUR IN WEST VA...OR MARYLAND ....OR MEMPHIS.....GET OFF YOUR SELECTIVE SOAP BOX......IF YOUR SO UPSET GO MENTOR A YOUNG BLACK GIRL IN THE HOOD AND TURN OFF THE NIKI MENAJ.

Anonymous said...

What really pissed me off about his ass was calling himself the Pied Piper of R&B. That just made me sick cause the pied piper was the one who lead all the kids out of that town for not paying the debt when he got rid of the rats. R Kelly is a very sick man...he's talented but very sick.

Anonymous said...

2 Chainz is married to a grown woman. Sat down. Stop throwing salt on his name. We are talking this known perv.

4:11 and 4:30. That is the problem. The Mammies, Grandmammies and older sistas don't give a damn as long as your older man is giving them money and taking them to grocery store. I seen this happen and it was disgusting. Sadly, this will continue.

@4:53 I agree.

Anonymous said...

FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL...

THIS FROM 4:23
MIRRORS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL DAY...I HAD TO REPOST IT AND GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.....
" So to all of you in here who hate R.Kelly, what are you currently doing to ensure protection of your beloved young Black girls? How about you turn the channel when RHOA and L&HH comes on. How about you stop taking Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram photographs with your asses tooted out. How about you stop calling the next Black woman a "bitch" and a "hoe". The change that you want to see starts with you first. Sitting on this blog, talking shit about R. Kelly is fruitless. Make sure you raise your daughters to love themselves enough to reject a grown ass nigga like Kelly. Until then, shut the fuck up with your fake outrage" END QOUTE...LOL.

4:23 PM

Anonymous said...

@6:27 PM - You sound a bit unsure about your feelings towards The Pied Piper. Do you slap yourself across the face while listening to Kellz' music as penance? @6:40 PM - Amen two times for that repost!

Anonymous said...

@6:40 what does reality shows have to do with Kells sexing babies. Ain't nobody on these shows sleeping with children.

@7:09 I don't have to slap myself cause Kells is throwing this shit in our faces by calling himself the damn Pied Piper. I like his damn music but it urks the hell out of me that this man is walking around here when he has preyed on innocent girls since Aaliyah. And I'm willing to bet you if someone grown man climb on top of his daughters he would be ready to kill them.

Anonymous said...

@4:30 Not every young girl wants to b molested & sexed up by some old goat no matter hiw much mony he throws up. That's the problem. People get criticized when they have morals and don't give their vaginas to the highest bidder. Quit blaming everyone else & face the truth that we are sick. We have been sick for a long time. All this baby mamma stuff, robbing. Only until then we will be healed

Anonymous said...

@7:24 PM- Thank you for being human enough and honest enough to admit that you like the music but dislike the man. Every other phoney baloney up here pretending to hate Kellz and everything he stands for while listening to Black Panties on repeat!

Anonymous said...

FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL...

@724 SORRY THESE GIRLS WERE NEVER INNOCENT AT ALL
AND I WAS REPOSTING 4;23 BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE FAKE OUTRAGE WHEN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT FESTERS AND CAUSES THESE HOT IN THE PANTS GIRLS MORALS TO BE SO CURRUPTED...IS IGNORED AND ENJOYED EVERY DAY
AND NOT A WORD.

Anonymous said...

Quit blaming everyone else & face the truth that we are sick. We have been sick for a long time. All this baby mamma stuff, robbing. Only until then we will be healed
7:31 PM
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You lost me right about heeeeere...

Nikasha said...

If those things are true, R. Kelly needs to be ashamed of himself and locked up. That is gross and criminal, regardless of the fact that he was dealing with some fast ass lil girls.

KenyaDoll said...

@6:27

I truly can not believe that went over people's head. People are just too fucking enamored by celebrities. That was so sick and yet people still shook their asses to his music all while he was chanting "Pied Piper of R&B" with a flute in his "Step Step Side to Side" song. Fat motherfuckas two-stepping to R. Kelly and he chanting Pied Piper.

Bee Gee said...

@Long Time Lurker 6:25pm

Nobody is saying that these girls were innocent sweathearts, defiled and destroyed by R'uh, but what most people are saying is that the honus is on HIM AS THE ADULT to be responsible enough for both parties. Can you understand that simple concept? If you're an adult being propositioned by a minor, the honus is on you not to break the law.

But I'm describing typical situations here - the shit with R. Kelly is not typical. This is a grown man SEEKING OUT 9th/10th grade girls. You see the diff? Not only is he ignoring his responsibility as an adult, he's willfully and blatantly into all kinds of debauchery with these little girls.

You're ignoring the most important factors in what seems to be an attempt to excuse this clown of what are clear cut lines of responsibility. No matter what you say, the person/entity most responsible for this fuckery BY VERY FAR, is R. Kelly. The sad part is you're actually serious with that displaced blame shit, wow..

My .02 Cents... said...

In most states, these girls can not LEGALLY give consent to engage in sex with a 20 or 30 year old man. To the girls/women who mentioned they engaged in sex with older men, you're lucky that you didn't get caught by anyone who thought/knew/cared that it was a crime.

We can scream about the parents, who should've done what, no daddy in the home, videos, or blame it all on Nikki Minaj. But, the statutes of each state tell you the legal age of consent. Ignorance of the law is no excuse when you commit any crime. Knowingly seeking out young girls is very scary. Just because he didn't grab them in an alley and rape them doesn't mean it wasn't statutory rape. Because a celebrity has the means to make the accusations disappear doesn't mean a crime didn't occur.

If there were so many GIRLS involved, then the fact that he hasn't been brought up on more charges regarding this is mind boggling.


Anonymous said...

Apparently, most of these people defending R Kelly didn't bother to read the article, which says that the publication this journalist worked for was regularly receiving numerous sex tapes featuring R Kelly and underaged girls. This reporter also had other victims and their families contacting him to tell their stories.

I don't care how fast a girl is, it's up to the grown ass man to control himself and not take advantage of a young girl who is not ready and does not know the implications of her actions in situations like this.

That said, the article actually states that many of the girls were not completely willing participants, and that many of them were forced to have sex with not only R Kelly, but with his crew and other girls.

No matter which way you slice it, that is RAPE. I can't believe so many fuckwads are trashing these girls and defending that rapist.

Anonymous said...

@BEE GEE FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL...

There are some key factors here: WHAT IS A MINOR , WHAT IS CONSENT...THE TRUTH IS ITS DIFFRENT IN EVERY STATE AND IT HAS CHANGED OVER TIME AND IT IS DIFFERNT IN OTHER CULTURES. @BEE GEE I wanted you re read this. This is a matter of law... Im talking about the R Kelly case and how it pertains to law. The girls were of age in other neighboring states...FACT...in our history and the history of the world... the age of consent has been all over the place. Is 16 too young...what about 14....I'm not displacing blame I'm placing blame...on the courts...on all over the place laws...on black women and the booty festival and carnival they cultivate these girls in at a young age. Both parties all parties everybody ...society. Your saying... He was the adult and to be responsible ...well the girls are just as responsible....LIKE I SAID BEFORE... IF THEY CAN GO TO JAIL AS AN ADULT FOR ROBEERY OR ASSALUT FOR WORLD STARRING SOME ONE AND BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS THEN THEY ARE JUST AS RESPONSIBLE TO BE HELD TO AN ADULT STANDARD FOR OPENING THERE LEGS......NOT VICTIMS...THEY WERE NOT RAPED...THEY CONSENTED ...IM TALKING IN THIS CASE..IN REGARDS TO THE AGE THESE GIRLS WERE
Would you go to Africa and soapbox them on the age of marriage and or consent...what about Europe...or Iraq....
BEE GEE I REPEAT AGAIN .....LIKE I SAID BEFORE IF THEY CAN GO TO JAIL AS AN ADULT FOR ROBEERY OR ASSALUT FOR WORLD STARRING SOME ONE AND BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS THEN THEY ARE JUST AS RESPONSIBLE TO BE HELD TO AN ADULT STANDARD FOR OPENING THERE LEGS......NOT VICTIMS

Anonymous said...

I don't know why these idiots keep trying to use the differences in Age of Consent for different states as if they're proving some point that makes any kind of sense.

All U.S. states set their limits between 16 and 18.

NO ONE UNDER 16 CAN CONSENT TO SEX IN ANY US STATE.



Anonymous said...

@8:48...Heres what you said...."I don't care how fast a girl is, it's up to the grown ass man to control himself and not take advantage of a young girl who is not ready and does not know the implications of her actions in situations like this." ...IM saying do they know the' implications' of stomping someone on WSHH What about jumping a girl with there friends...murder? robbery?
Hmmmm...well ???? are they still victims....

Anonymous said...

FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL...

@8:48...Heres what you said...."I don't care how fast a girl is, it's up to the grown ass man to control himself and not take advantage of a young girl who is not ready and does not know the implications of her actions in situations like this." ...IM saying do they know the' implications' of stomping someone on WSHH What about jumping a girl with there friends...murder? robbery?
Hmmmm...well ???? are they still victims....??????


My .02 Cents... said...

I worked in a probation/parole office for sex offenders. For ONE DAMN MONTH. I couldn't stomach the case files I had to work with.

It is illegal for a 21 year old man to engage in sexual intercourse with any 13 year old in any state. Don't believe me? Call your local precinct, call a criminal attorney in your neighboring state, or search for your local laws.

Comparing the crimes a 14 year old commits (juvenile courts in most cases) to what they can do sexually with grown men is apples and oranges. If you don't like the laws, write your congressman.

Anonymous said...

FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL...

@9:08 HAWAII, IDAHO, SOUTH CAROLINA ,VIRGINIA its under 16...
Source//
Webstry .net of age of consent by state...REGARDLESS WERE ARE TALKING THE TIME OF R KELLYS CASE WHICH IT WAS DIFFERNT BACK THEN ALSO....IN ADDITION YOUR COMMENT DOESNT ADRESS KNOWING RIGHT AND WRONG AND BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY LAW AS AN ADULT AND CULTURAL MORAL STANDARDS ALL OVER THE WORLD AS TO WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE..
#AGAIN NOT VICTIMS

Anonymous said...

The United States legal system does not recognize "fast tail" or "hot tail" little girls. They do not careif she fast ass. MINOR is their concern. This thread & the backward way of thinking is why Blacks are incarcerated at an alarming. We are ignirant of laws and we don't @9:21 want to abide by them. @9:21 I looked up the sex offenders in my zip code & I was floored.

Anonymous said...

FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL...
@9:21 YOU SAID "Comparing the crimes a 14 year old commits (juvenile courts in most cases) to what they can do sexually with grown men is apples and oranges. If you don't like the laws, write your congressman."...WHAT IM SAYING....ALMOST EVERY STATE HAS LOWERED THE AGE FOR CHARGING JUVENILES AS ADULTS...AND WHAT THEY CAN BE CHARGED FOR AND HAVE ALSO MADE ALLOWANCES TO CHERRY PICK WHEN THEY WILL OR WONT... THIS HAS BECOME A NATIONAL TREND... SORRY THESE KIDS... OUR KIDS (BLACK KIDS) ARE GETING TRIED AS ADULTS...GOOGLE IT...
AND DOING BIG NUMBERS...FACT IS R KELLY WAS LEGAL IN MUTIPLE STATES AT THAT TIME AND AT THIS TIME...ARE THEY VICTIMS WHEN THEY ROB A STORE....WHAT ABOUT FELONY ASSUALT FOR JUMPING A GIRL...YOU ARE GETTING OFF TOPIC...THESE GIRLS WERE NOT VICTIMS IN SENSE AT ALL....THEY WERE OF AGE TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR RESPOSIBLE BEHAVIOR....NOT VICTIMS

Anonymous said...

@kenyadoll it makes no sense that people weren't catching on to that. He is scum. Like I keep admitting he's talented but he needs help and I seriously bet he hasn't received help. You know we all laughed at the comedians making jokes about it. But it makes no sense that a man can't at least screw a 18 yr old and above. Toure' made him look like a damn fool in one interview. He is a sicko.

@7:36 I had to be honest. His music is good but sleeping with children isn't good. Aaliyah's family is trying to let her have a nice girl image, which is probably why they haven't came out and said she and Kellz were married. He thinks he's got off, I think he's going to F up one day and him and his career will be dead.

Anonymous said...

FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL...
@9:49...Im not saying or condoning R Kellys behavior or the girls....or any criminal behavior... both are in the wrong...
You should read all my comments..Im saying the problem with sexualization of black girls is bigger than R Kelly and really nobody cares they are just attached too and soap boxing the celebrity name. But walk around ignoring the root causes everyday. That's what im saying...#TEAMONTOPIC

Anonymous said...

What is the 2013 Age of Consent in Illinois?

The Illinois legal Age of Consent for sexual contact is 17 years old. There are a total of nine states that have a legal age of consent of 17.

The older partner commits criminal sexual abuse if he or she commits an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct with a victim who between 13 and 17 years of age and the accused was less than 5 years older than the victim. This charge is raised to criminal aggrevated sexual abuse if the perpetrator is over five years older then the victim.

Illinois has no Close-in-age Exemption

There are no set close-in-age exemptions or "Romeo and Juliet laws" to Illinois's age of consent. This means that anyone who engages in sexual activity with someone under the age of consent in Illinois is liable for prosecution, including people only a few years older then their sexual partner and even two individuals who are both under the age of consent.

What is the Age of Consent?
IL Legal Age of Consent, 2012 and 2013

The Age of Consent is the age at which a person is deemed by Illinois law to be capable of consenting to, and engaging in, sexual acts. Anyone who engages in sexual activity of any type with a partner under the applicable Age of Consent is breaking the law and can be charged with crimes ranging from a misdemeanor to a felony (statutory rape) depending on the jurisdiction in which they are prosecuted. Illinois's specific laws on the Age of Consent can be found above.

What happens if I violate the Illinois Age of Consent?

If you engage in sexual activity with a minor who is under the Illinois Age of Consent of 17, you can be prosecuted under Illinois sexual abuse laws and charged with crimes ranging from sexual assault to first degree rape, regardless of whether or not the sexual acts were consensual. Depending on the charges, conviction can carry penalties ranging from one to fifty years in prison and registration as a sex offender.

What happens if I travel to a state where the Age of Consent is lower?

In most states, the travel or transportation of a minor over state lines with the intention of engaging in sexual activity is in itself a severe misdemeanor or felony. As a result, it is generally not possible to evade a state's age of consent rules by travelling to a different state.




My .02 Cents... said...

These allegations occurred in Chicago. Not SC or VA.

Here's what a legal site says (I attempted to cite it in another post, but I guess RWS didn't like it)

Illinois - The age of consent in Illinois is 17. For people 18 or over, it is illegal for them to commit acts of a sexual nature on persons who are under the age of 18 if they are in a position of authority or trust over the victim. This effectively raises the age of consent for older people in positions of authority or trust to 18 years old.

Anonymous said...

@9:57 read @9:49
Now to your other topic we need to teach these to stop robbing & stealing and there wouldn't be a reason to get caught up in the legal system. W are targeted because we make it so very easy

My .02 Cents... said...

@10:20 - Thank you. I tried to post a link and RWS deleted my comment. Ha!

@LTL - My debate is not about the other crimes that minors commit (assault, burglary, murder). It is about statutory rape.

The root of sexually promiscuous or vulnerable young black girls is another topic. I was not that type of 13 year old, although I knew a lot of them. It still doesn't change the law.

Anonymous said...

Thank you all for staying on topic and making my day. I wish I were having this discussion with all of you Snitches near a warm fireplace, drinking spiked eggnog. I am a R. Kelly fan which I see is not the thing to be in 2013 but I respect and appreciate grown folks who can debate sensibly on a subject. This was an excellent post. Long live RWS!

My .02 Cents... said...

@10:42 - Lots o f different opinions. Very little disrespect. I actually commented more than once. Something I never do on this site.

Yes, I've stepped to R. Kelly's music. And danced to Chris Brown. And, watched Two and A Half Men. I think OJ was one of the greatest running backs of all time.

Do I want to date any of those fools? Nope. Would I call the cops if I saw R. in front of my daughter's middle school? Hell yeah.

Anonymous said...



Characteristics and Behavioral Indicators of a Pedophile

Through numerous case studies, the Department of Justice has developed characteristics and behavioral indicators of a pedophile. They are as follows:


1. Is most often an adult male.
2. Is usually married.
3. Works in a wide range of occupations, from unskilled laborer to corporate executive.
4. Relates better to children than adults.
5. Socializes with few adults unless they are pedophiles.
6. Usually prefers children in a specific age group. (CHECK)
7. Usually prefers either males or females, but may be bi-sexual.
8. May seek employment or volunteer with programs involving children of the age of his preference.
9. Pursues children for sexual purposes.
10. Frequently photographs or collects photographs of his victims, either dressed, nude, or in sexually explicit acts.
11. Collects child erotica and child-adult pornography.

12. May possess and furnish narcotics to his victims to lower their inhibitions.
13. Is usually intelligent enough to recognize that he has a personal problem and understand the severity of it.
14. May go to great lengths to conceal his illegal activity.
15. Often rationalizes his illicit activities, emphasizing his positive impact upon the victim and repressing feelings about the harm that he has done.
16. Often portrays the child as the aggressor. This usually occurs after the child realizes that by withholding "sexual favors" the child will obtain what he or she desires, such as new toys, clothing or trips.
17. Talks about children in the same manner as one would talk about an adult lover or spouse.
18. Often was a child molestation victim and frequently seeks out children at the age or stage of physical development at which he was molested.

19, Often seeks out publications and organizations that support his sexual beliefs and practices.
20. Usually corresponds with other pedophiles and exchanges child pornography and erotica as proof of involvement.
21. Is usually non-violent and has few problems with the law (pedophiles are frequently respected community members).




Anonymous said...

@10:42 FROM LONG TIME LURKER OR LTL

THAT WAS VERY NICE OF YOU TO SAY....LOL..MADE ME LAUGH...DEBATE CLUB ALL DAY TODAY...YEAH ITS BEEN AN EPIC RWS RIDE...WHEW..MY FINGERS.....

@10;20 and11;04 IM AWARE OF ILLIONOISE LAW...I WAS JUST POINTING OUT HOW THE LAW CAN BE DIFFERENT IN ONE STATE OR THE OTHER...IN ONE STATE YOU COULD BE LABLED AS AN OFFENDER AND IN ANOTHER STATE NOT
THERE IS NO CONTINUITY ...JUST AS IT IS DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND CULTURES AND RELIGIONS BY THE WAY SINCE WE ARE ON LAW... HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY GUYS. HE IS NOT A SEX OFFENDER BY THE SAME LAW YOU JUST POSTED AND WE HAVE NO PROOF OF PHEDOFILIA AGAINST THIS MAN. THE COURT DID PROVE HOWEVER THAT HE DID HAVE CONSENSUAL SEX WITH GIRLS THAT WERE OF AGE.
MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE FALSE OUTRAGE AND CONDONING BEHAVIOUR GOING ON ALL AROUND US THAT CONTRIBUTES TO AND SUBSTANCIATES ROOT CAUSE. AS WEEL AS, EQUAL BLAME FOR ALL INVOLVED THE GIRLS...THE COMMUNITY...THE MEN. WE HAVE NEVER HAD 200 COMMENTS ON HOW TWERKING MAKES US LOOK AS A COMMUNITY..OR WHE'N A SONG DROPS LIKE ...'BABY MAKE THAT ASS DROP'.... ON THE RADIO....RWS DOESNT GET MAXED OUT WITH A ZILLION COMMENTS ...WE HAVE ALOT OF WORK TO DO....YOU GUYS WILL BE SEEING ME ON HERE ALOT NOW I AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONVERSATIONS .....
MR LTL...AKA LONG TIME LURKER

Anonymous said...

Who is this fool who keeps going on about twerking? Aaliyah had a tomboy image when she was a teen, she wasn't twerking or pussy popping. That didn't stop R. Kelly from molesting her.

Kellz was picking up girls at the McDonalds and at the schoolyard. If they were still on school property, you know the teachers and staff would not allow them to behave that way.

Y'all can bend over backwards to defend him all you like. It makes me question your character and your background. Some of you must be R. Kelly's pedo buddies.

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