"the death was either by shooting in his old neighborhood or suicide??"How the hell can you not determine something like that?
Was this Deb's biological son?
I was thinking the same thing
...that boy came outta Deb. just a redbone. him and WF look jus' like each other.
He looks like this creepy albino nigga I use to work with, always talking about "eating at the Y"
Poor Deb. God bless her & the rest of her family.
Wow he looks just like his mom! R.I.P. Kayo. so sad
That boy sacrificed his brother! Who says "God bless me" on twitter after they lose a family member? Waka fin to get "blessed" alright-
It's really bad news to hear. But you live by the gun, you die by the gun.
Terribly sad news. She said she lost "another son". Which son was the first?Slim Dunkin and now this...Wacka needs to stay prayed up and out the rap mess.
Wow he has some white some where in him. He has the red hair, freckles, and very light skin.
Very very unfortunate. God bless this family @11:22 black folks have freckles too
As a mother there would be no way that Tweeting would be a concern of mines after news like that came to me.
11:06 - STFU with that sacrifice bullchit! Who talks like that anymore? Mental illness is real I tell ya... This lady just lost another son and this man just lost another brother... Condolences to the family...
Does anyone know who the first son to die was. She said "another son".
@11:26, I know but it is better than making phone calls and breaking down. Tweet, then cut off the cell for 24 hours.
When will black people get tired of the funerals, RIP, t-shirts, memorials?
@11:21 she talked about losing a son before Waka got famous when she was interviewed. I think that one was shot too. It was a good interview, YouTube it.
WTF is a Slim Dunkin? Sounds like something I eat with my coffee.
@11:33am: Good question. Unfortunately, the answer is never. Wacka Flackas music is evil and demonic just like most other "artists" who glorfiy living the street life and all that comes with it. This kind of music brings negativity and evil into your circle and effects everyone and everything in it. He rapping about "choppa down" and "go hard in the paint"....that shit is dumb and ignorant. Everybody wants to live the life until it effects them personally. I feel sorry for young dude, but this aint the first and wont be the last.
All my prayers & condolences go out to this family. God bless u all...
My condolences. This is sad. I agree with Waka asking for blessings, I don't know how many siblings he had but he is down 2 brothers and that must have him feeling scared for his own life!
a lot of conflict in those conflicting reports.
Her first son was ran over by a car as a kid after Waka told him he could sneak out the house
Very sad but even sadder they are on twitter in times like these!
"Wow he has some white some where in him. He has the red hair, freckles, and very light skin"This another reason why I don't agree with the one drop rule. Black is a dominant trait but it does not erase caucasian characteristics. My family has Irish/Scottish blood waaay down the family tree and although many of of us are dark skin, we also have what they call, "Black Gingers" Very light to Brown skin with light eyes, freckles and kinky red hair. Anyway RIP to this young man. One more for the winter solstice sacrifice. Very, very odd statement from Wacka indeed.
So sad. Such a handsome young man.
If you've ever seen any of Debbie's family, you would see that her son fits right in line. He looks exactly like his Uncle Bimmy. May God bless and grace the Antney family during this difficult time.
@tippie toes-- i was just thinking the same thing. so odd! reminds me of jennifer hudson's sister facebooking through her baby boys and mothers tragic death. *pondering*
So sad. So Deb had four sons?See: http://www.purpletapepedigree.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tumblr_mg9k2tXc3b1rhstfeo1_500.jpg
Deb Antney to VIBE Mag in 2010:My son was killed in 2000 and Waka was like 13 years old, going on 14. And it was hard. Since my son died,that’s when [Waka] flipped. He hated everything dealing with school because my son, his death was a sneak out the house to go help a kid with his homework before his father came home so the kid wouldn’t get a beating. Waka told him to go, he’ll cover for him. So [when he was biking home and killed by a car] Waka blamed hisself. He feels very responsible for my son’s death—that’s what flipped him out.It wasn’t until recently [that I realized.] One night he just bust into my room and he was crying so hard and I jumped out the bed and I automatically started crying. I thought it was Gucci, ‘cause at that time Gucci was running so wild. I immediately started crying, like “Oh my God, what the hell happened?”—that time of the night somebody coming in the room. He just dropped to his knees and [was] like, “Ma, please forgive me.” I’m like, “What do you mean forgive you? What did you do?” I’m crying and I’m like “Where is Gucci?” Just yelling ‘cause I used to make him go to watch Gooch, like, ”Make sure Gucci’s okay,” ‘cause Gucci was going so wild. I’m still thinking something happened to Gucci and he’s not telling me ‘cause, like, where is he? Them two, you never seen one without [the other]—they were so inseparable it was pathetic. And then that’s when he told me: “I’m the one that told him he could go. I covered for him.” So all this time this kid walked around holding this stuff inside of him.
↖Will the funeral be held on twitter too? Rest in Peace.
Waka's mother and hip-hop manager Debra Antney confirmed the death on Twitter ... with the message, "I just lost another son." Antney also had a son who died in a car accident when Waka was 13 years old.Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2ozGp5qmP
My condolences to the family & may his soul RIP. With that said...Why do people put these things on twitter and other social websites? Not everything should be for mass consumption, unless you're looking for mass attention. Back in the day people were selective about what they publicly shared and kept it between close friends & family. Being private and humble never goes out of style.
@1:44I don't even want to speak on the JHUD tragedy...but yes behavior is very questionable...
Why am I finding it so difficult to feel sympathy for this man? Oh well...
Social network is a scary place! I can't believe that Deb and Wacky was able to step outside of they grieving and post shit on Twitter. I guess they gonna post IG pics from the funeral services too with mad hashtags. #rip #mybruhfalife #whygod takemyson #disviolenceneedtastop #onlydagooddieyungHood drama.
Your brother is dead so you tweet, "God please bless me." Huh?!
LOL @ 3:18
@ 11:06 I would ask God to bless me too in such a tragedy. I would need him to bless me with strength, and sanity. Waka felt the death of his 10 year old brother was his fault, Wala was 14 amd absolutely traumatized seeing his dead brother. Waka blamed himself and held it in. Now his youngest brother is dead. A labelmate of his was murdered barely 2 years ago.There is a lot of depression in black men due to things like this. They go through all of this trauma, and they suppress it or drink and do drugs. That's why so many black women have so called bad attitudes, living in the ghetto is rough. The suicide rate of black males is at an all time high, nobody is talking about it.
Hmmm...Emotionless and inappropriate twitter messages*Side eye to the whole family
11:28 said "11:06 - STFU with that sacrifice bullchit! Who talks like that anymore? Mental illness is real I tell ya... This lady just lost another son and this man just lost another brother... Condolences to the family... "You really told me! You feel better now? breathe- and don't get so emotional over people you will never meet.....
11:28 said "11:06 - STFU with that sacrifice bullchit! Who talks like that anymore? .........................WE ALL DO!
RIP. I see nothing wrong with tweeting esp if that's how they choose to express themselves or communicate most of the time. Stop the needLess criticism esp at a time like this
I knew somebody would say it was a sacrifice. @3:15 You're not the only one. And his tweet was odd!
Like someone else said - you live by the gun, you die by the gun. Is it a horrible thing to lose a son/brother - of course it is! HOWEVER - it is hard for me ti muster that much sympathy for a family who lives their kind of life. If you cared for your children that much - then get them out of "that life". PERIOD. They had plenty of money to do that instaed of perpetuating a DBoy lifestyle. Come on man.And I'm sorry - but weho here really and truly believes that the younger son snuck out of the house to help someone with their HOMEWORK?? I very well could be wrong and I hope I am, but COME ON MAN!! Does it sound like this family took education seriously? Who has to sneak out to do homework? Tell it to someone else.I really am sorry for their loss, but this is also the "life" they chose.
@3:43The black community doesn't talk about depression because its taboo. Many lives would be saved if individuals would take the time to educate themselves. Having a gun in the home increases the risk of suicide. The young man was depressed. On a website there is an explanation on what happen. Dang I lost my nephew the same way. There is always warning signs unfortunately a lot of people don't know. I knew the signs but he slipped away and killed his self. Man the pain was unbearable. Now before some dumb ass come up here and say he was selfish he was DEPRESSED! He was crying out for help, and he didn’t know how to get it!
That boy looks just like is uncle Bimmy, red hair and freckles. Any Queens head up in here?
@6:07 pmI dont know what exactly what happened to that young man but I will co sign that suicidal depression aint no jokeThat pain is like no other I have ever felt and its only through the GRACE OF GOD I am still hereU dont give a fuck about being called a coward or about being called selfish. All u want to do it get away. Far, far away. Especially from mean spirited people and dysfunction. U think about heaven and all the angels and how u would be loved and accepted there without judgement and prejudice. I know I may sound crazy, but I was just giving a glimpse of how a suicidal person may think. And the thoughts just dont come out of no where. Its usually come after many times of effort of trying your best and continuing to fail. It comes really trying to do your best in the eye sight of man and God, and still coming up short. U still love the flowers, nature, and life. Just not injustices. U trying to fight the good and evil within yourself and just give up when u feel weak. I mean come on. There are billions people on this earth. U feel like u wont really be missed and can easily be replaced.I know I might sound fickled but I hope this young man really didnt kill himself and went through that kind of pain in his last moments cause its the worst to feelI thank God that this happened many years ago and that I reached out and received love back to help me go on a little longer and to hold on a little longer. Sometimes others havent been so luckyRIP young manOh and I would like to add before the bible thumpers come after me, at time u dont worrying about going to hell. U just want to get away from judgemental people
*at the time
@6:16 pmWord? I didnt know Bimmy from (I think the Supreme team, Pappy Mason?) was related to himNow that I take a good look at him, he does look like him *if i got the info wrong, please excuse. Its been a long time ago and my memory is getting rustyLol
Waka is the wicked child!! he told his brother he could sneak out and he ended up gettin hit by a car !! then this brother found dead I think waka kilt him !! #CASECLOSED
6:07 & 7:11 thank you so much for the honesty. People often confuse sadness with depression. A hug, funny movie or a night out with friends can cure sadness, but not depression. It's a chemical imbalance. I have never wanted to kill myself, but I have suffered from periods of depression, ot really is painful, that's why I won't buy a gun. I have also heard of people killing themselves just due to a strong urge without being depressed, but those people are gone and nobody can speak for them.There are just some things that I feel I can't talk to ANYOME about. I found a church to go to thinking things would be different, but I shared things with a church counselor, and in addition to her telling my business, she added to the truth. It's rough.I worry so much about my brother. He deals with depression too. He rarely says anything, but I can always see it. He NEVER wants to talk about things though. He has a gun, and I suspect that his girlfriend is out cheating while he's working, and I don't think the bab is his. I can't talk about that with anyone. I gave seen him go into rage, and I know he would explode. Damn its rough.You guys are so right about judemental people. I used to be that way too, but now, I understand things better.
@7:11Oh I know how you felt. We walked a similar journey. It was rough wasn't it? Depression is no joke! What cycle of depression are you affiliated with. Did you graduate slowly or wasn't all of sudden? I don't even know you and look we walked a similar journey. Since we made it others will too! By the way you don't sound crazy!
I know Deb and her sons are grieving now, but I hope they will share his story. I saw his last tweet. It was simple, he was promoting his album, nothing more, then hours later, he's dead. I wonder what happened. Suicide is taking a lot of black men. Every day in the news now, there is a black man involved in a suicide or murder suicide. Just look how mean and inconsiderate some of these comments are, that's why people don't talk. People want to be understood, not judged, and made to feel worse than before they talked to you.
1st 8:14A strong urge to do bodily harm is manic. If possible remove the gun. If your brother refuses to talk suggest counseling. If he does talk let him know your there to listen and you won't pass judgement. He needs help and a lot of support.As far as people being judgmental their suffering worse then I am. Cowards are afraid to face their demons and that's way they project their pain unto someone else. The devil is good at his craft. Oh but John 8:7 sums it up well!Well as for the Bible thumpers they better have a seat I check their ass all the time.
@ 9:03 thanks for the advice, but my brother bought the gun for protection after a lot of break ins in the neighborhood, also, he's an adult with no criminal history, though him having the gun makes me uneasy, I don't have the right to take it, even if I knew where he kept. Thats the thing about mental illness, its always too late or almost to late before you can legally do anything. He's fine right now, but when he gets that way, he just won't open up. When me and my mom try pressuring him to talk, he gets angry, and off the subject, he'll even get upset with us. I haven't suggested he talk to a professional though, sometimes people take it as an insult, but if he ever gets that depressed again, its worth me working up the courage to ask.Also, because of what I've been through, I don't like to call people cowards. I find friends harder to talk to than anyone, and family will just say the usual, snap out of it, things will change. I'm not depressed now thank God, but I have had the same issues for years. Now I'm just doing something different to change my circumstance, but I can understand how people get to a place where they think things won't change. Talking to those bible thumping hypochristians only added to my problems.
@7:23 yes bimmy from supreme team/baisley
Will we see pictures of the wake and her son lying in a casket as well? Funeral homes love to pimp those pictures (available for only a few more dollars).
To both @8:14pmsI pray that many good prayers, and answers, and good blessings go out for you and your families even now and for 2014Thank u both for understanding and not judging meI hope your brother be ok and yes i understand about a gun. I passed an exam to become an officer. But i had t odeclined to going that route, cause i knew i suffered from depression Nobody dont respond well to being rebuked Especially while going through that type of pain And u cant betray your brother by snitching on him or trying to take the gun. That may make matters worse, and make him resent u or even possibly get u hurt. I know u have been hurt by the church just as i have. However after all the hurt and pain the majority of the churches dished out to me, i called a prayer line and some of the people were very patient and kind towards me But u do have to be careful who u confide in If its okay with u, Im gonna leave a link to their website Its called WisdomOnline.com U can just check it out just in case u might need it 1 day. They were very kind and patient with me when I decided to call and i felt a little better afterward. Sometime u just need anonymous shoulder to cry on to try to make to make it to the next day It is so much i wish i could say, but i cant on this websiteJust help and talk with him as much as u can. Tell him that u love him as much as u can. Tell him that u cant imagine your life without him and that u really need him here to help and support u through this thing called lifeAnd even if the baby is not his, the baby needs him also right now cause he is the only father the baby knows. Im certainly am no expert and u see how messed up I am Just trying to share with u some things that were a little helpful for meWhat i responded to. I remember how a person made me feel And the only ones I responded to well to ,was people who was loving, patient, understanding and kind. Not people who were agressive, confrontational or judgemental My depression started when I was very young. But the suicide tendecies started when i got older After lifes trials and tribulations. But mostly after I was assaulted and the law didnt protectme, and my family and so called friends turned their backs on me in my time of need Thats when I had the most suicidal thoughts After getting through that, I began to suffer from depression, anxiety and post trauma stress disorder Well I hope I was a little helpfuland please keep me in good prayers and thoughts as I will do the same:)Ps. I dont know if u read or believe in the bible and im not a thumper, but David wrote the Psalms out of depression and Paul wrote the most of the epistles out of depression. And there is a verse that say by the sadness of the countenance, the heart is made better and that a broken and a contrite heart He will not despise. When we cry, God cries too. He is the only 1 who loves and accepts us even when we are broken. And He will help build and put us back together if we can try to hang in there : )
I am glad that we got a discussion going here about depression. it is a very serious thing. It can be set in by family dynamics, trauma, infantile trauma, chemical imbalance, brain injury or shock.Depression is anger turned inward. That is why it is god to talk about it.People who do not understand depression need to watch the documentary movie, "The Bridge".
So much speculation on what the family should & shouldn't be doing in this time of grief. So many people questioning if they are really grieving. People please!! You have no idea what they are going through so how about leaving it at that. Say RIP or don't say anything, DAMN! Animals are so much better than people on our best days!