Friday, June 08, 2012

Creflo Dollar Arrested on Battery Charges [Updated]


Spare the rod spoil the child. Megachurch pastor Creflo Dollar Jr. was arrested on simple battery charges in Fayette County last night...

From WSBTV
Channel 2’s Tom Jones learned that Dollar was booked into the county jail at 2 a.m. A judge set Dollar's bond at $5,000 during a morning hearing.
“I just love my kid. Love ‘em. Same problem every parent’s going through,” Dollar said as he was leaving jail Friday morning.
Police have not released any details on the victim or the circumstances of the arrest.

[Update]


From 11 Alive
According to the police report from the Fayette County Sheriff’s Office, Dollar’s daughter called police to say that her father attacked her after they argued about whether the daughter could attend a party.
The report says Dollar choked his daughter, then threw her to the ground, punched her and hit her with his shoe. The responding officer noticed a scratch on the daughter’s neck near her throat; the daughter said her father gave her the scratch during the fight.
When police interviewed Dollar, he said he tried to restrain his daughter when she “became very disrespectful” after he told her she couldn’t go to the party, according to the report. Dollar admitted to spanking his daughter and wrestling her to the floor, but said it was because she hit him.
Dollar was taken to the Fayette County Jail after his arrest. Fayette County Police spokesman Brent Rowan said Dollar had his first appearance in magistrate court Friday and posted bond.

135 comments:

BloggerDisplayName said...

YOU forgot " clocks tea" in der somewhere....smh

Anonymous said...

Well if they locking people up for not sparing the rod, I have no room to talk because I could've been his cell mate!

NiyabinghiObeahWomanWarrior said...

Damn snitch I need the full info on this pulpit pimp!!! oh lawd he don went upside the kid heads with good book oh deh lawd!!! he had to lay hands on that fool!! oh lawd I will be back later for updates on this fool.

Sermon of the day said...

Chickens coming home to roost. Making DOLLARS don't help you raise your kids. Spending time with them is the key.

NiyabinghiObeahWomanWarrior said...

@11:51 AM
You and me both, I too have been guilty of laying some hands on my kids when the act a fool, yes folks stay on the police blotter down here for laying hands on these bad ass kids. not a day goes by and I check the blotter I don't see at least 5 folks going beating they kids ass.

Anonymous said...

Spanking a child turns them into violent criminals. look it up. Not to mention it doesn't make the child understand what they did wrong,it just makes them scared to do it again and fear or even hate you as a parent. Bad parenting. There are better ways to discipline. I've never been spanked and hold 2 college degrees, happily married to a business man,and working on a masters. Again, DO NOT SPANK YOUR CHILD.

Anonymous said...

How can you go to church with a str8 face or not know that you are going to walk out of the church with a whole lot less money than you walked in with when your pastor's name is Dolla....LMAO

Anonymous said...

This right here ladies and gentlemen is what the bible calls a false prophet.

Anonymous said...

Fools like this is the reason people are turning away from the church and into gays.

Ms. Lee said...

11:55, Excuse my language, but you sound crazy as several fucks. Don't spank your child? Please. That's the problem with these children today. They're disrespectful, unappreciative and have false senses of entitlement. The "old-school" parents and grandparents are non-existent today. These "new generation" punk ass parents are afraid to whoop their child's ass for fear of the police. You can very well whoop a child and explain to them why they were disciplined. Not whooping a child is a breeding ground for trouble. Ridiculous on all levels.

Anonymous said...

@ Anonymous said...
Spanking a child turns them into violent criminals. look it up. Not to mention it doesn't make the child understand what they did wrong,it just makes them scared to do it again and fear or even hate you as a parent. Bad parenting. There are better ways to discipline. I've never been spanked and hold 2 college degrees, happily married to a business man,and working on a masters. Again, DO NOT SPANK YOUR CHILD.
11:55 AM

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Either you're crazy or one of your parents must be yt.

And not spanking your child turns them into serial killers....look up Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacey (sp?), etc.

Anonymous said...

@ 11:55

I don’t see black kids throwing themselves on the floor in stores and acting a fool. I see yt kids doing that and most of those yt kids were never spanked and they grow up to do more crimes than black kids. What race has the most pedophiles? Yt. What race has the most serial killers? Yt. Oh, aren’t Yt the ones that say not to spank your kids?

Anonymous said...

Both 11:59's Reading comprehension is key. Take an English class. Where did I say not to discipline your child? Hmm? I said do not SPANK your child, as it is evidenced by many studies that it teaches people to solve conflicts with violence,since thats how their parents did. Again, reading comprehension is key. Ask someone to explain to you what I just wrote, id youre still having problems.

Anonymous said...

Snitch,

THIS is the type of quick turnaround I'm looking for! Great job :)

Anonymous said...

@ 1155
You shouldn’t brag about your husband so much….he’s most likely smutting out his secretary on those “business trips” that he’s always taking.

Anonymous said...

@11:55 I agree, its a shame that people are having kids they dont know how to care for,so they resort to beating. if you cant properly punish your child and beat them instead of properly parenting them,give them to a relative or the state.

Anonymous said...

@ 11:59
Either you're crazy or one of your parents must be yt.

LMBAO

Anonymous said...

Why do someones parents have to be white? Because theyre not violent and combative? SMH As soon as something positive is said about a black person, "her parents must be white" self hating at its finest.

Anonymous said...

According to the police report from the Fayette County Sheriff's Office, Dollar's daughter called police to say that her father attacked her after they argued about whether the daughter could attend a party.

The report says Dollar choked his daughter, then threw her to the ground, punched her and hit her with his shoe. The responding officer noticed a scratch on the daughter's neck near her throat; the daughter said her father gave her the scratch during the fight.

Anonymous said...

I'm so glad I never bought into religion.

Anonymous said...

@ 11:55 - That is pure bullsh*t! I was spanked and it does not make you a violent criminal! It made me a college grad, with no children/baby daddy, business owner and well adjusted, productive member of society. I will spank any children I may have in the future and yours too if you send they bad, no discipline having behinds to my house! Violent criminals - are you serious??? Majority of the violent criminals in society would have benefited from a good a** whooping!

Only1Nikki said...

Funny I got my ass whipped and I have yet to kill anyone neither have my siblings. My cousin whose mom felt like you do however is doing life murder 1. Good luck with your bullshit theories.

Anonymous said...

Teddy Riley gotten to something like this 3-4 years ago for whippin' his adult children.

Anonymous said...

According to news report on WAOK.

Creflo's 15 yro daughter wanted to go to a party. He told her no, she disrespected them attacked him so he tagged that ass and then she called the cops.

He should put her country ass out his house. Go party now bitch.

Anonymous said...

Here's a better link: http://www.11alive.com/News/Crime/244082/445/Creflo-Dollar-arrested-for-assaulting-daughter

Anonymous said...

I wonder what Laffy Taffy has to say about this.


@11:55, Surely you don't believe what you just typed. I think it's lunch time, so go get something to eat, okay?

Leah in Atlanta said...

And he beats his wife Taffy too! Mr. CREPT YO DOLLAR been putting his hands on his family for years, yet his congregation keeps him rich. Personal jet,5 star chef in his home etc. He's another pastor that I can't stand that I've grown tired of having to keep my mouth shut about over the years. I'd get the side eye and deemed "crazy" for speaking the truth. Glad to see it's all coming out though.......just like it did with Eddie. Just sit back and enjoy his downfall guys!!! I know I will!

Anonymous said...

12:10 Exactly. To them its such a shock that two black people can raise an educated, behaved young woman since they promote stereotypes that black people are violent, angry animals who solve everything with violence. I agree, anything positive, they associate with white people.

For the record, yes, both of my parents are black,which is irrelevant. Whats a more concerning issue is the comprehension issues that are apparent in the commentators. Do not spank your child/= Do not discipline your child. I have a child of my own,who has skipped a grade and is on the verge of skipping another. No,she has never been spanked. Ask the violent offenders in prison what the abuse from their parents have accomplished.

Peace!

Ms. Lee said...

12:10, Most Black parents whoop their children as form of discipline. Who said ANYTHING about beating? Disciplining a child doesn't equal "combative and violent".

Bee Gee said...

After lmao @ Ms Lee's comment (and definitely cosigning the shit out of it), a brotha will be back later..

Anonymous said...

Children need discipline; when they do something wrong should they be beat with shoes, extension cords and wire hangers? NO but they DO need to be disciplined. The law makes it hard now that they want to arrest parents for whipping their children; then years down the line it's the police that starts beating people talking about how they had no home training? I agree with Anon@1151. We ALL woulda been cell mates.

Leah said...

I wonder what Laffy Taffy has to say about this.
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@12:15
He's been beating Taffy for years. She'll be quiet as usual or make a statement supporting Creflo. She's been taking abuse for years, trying to keep her lifestyle and her husbands reputation in tack. But it doesn't matter what she does anyway. His time is simply up for doing the devils work.

*All Creflo preaches about is prosperity aka MONEY, yet he's the only one in that church prospering*.

Anonymous said...

She probably said something smart out of her mouth. That was the one and only time I responded like that to my daughter. It was a knee-jerk, reflex reaction. I had never even hit her before that day. Not proud of it but things happen. She was late teens then...she's 33 now.

Anonymous said...

Church people are the worst.

Anonymous said...

I knew this false prophet was next in line after he stood up for his brother eddie long
Expect more of this kind of pubblic downfalls

Anonymous said...

^^^public

Anonymous said...

@ 12:03


Bitch, I didn’t know I was in English class. FOH with your bullshit ass theory and your bullshit ass degrees. Even with your education, all you are is an educated fool. FOH. Send me an email when your son starts fucking kids and your daughter start writing bad checks and selling her pussy. Nasty stuck up hoe. Instead of trying to put people down and bragging about your degrees, you should take a course in humility. Your parents didn’t do a good job raising you at all. Keep on bragging about your degrees and everything that you have, sooner rather than later, you will lose it all and will be looking silly as hell while the people that you’ve been holding your nose up at laugh at you. Like someone else said, you should be worrying about your hubby fucking other hoes than bragging about him on a damn blog.

BTW, cosigning your own fuckery is wack as hell. GAL hoe.

You know what they say about people who brag about how great their life is…..

All your education is showing me is that you’ll be the Government’s bitch for the rest of your life. Have fun trying to pay Uncle Sam back, hoe.

Anonymous said...

Ms. Lee not spanking your child is not what's wrong with kids today, it is alot of other factors involved too.

Ms. Lee said...

@12:50, I seriously doubt that chick is educated and holding degrees. It's incredibly easy to make up lives online, lol.

Anonymous said...

Now I'm not for punching or kicking a child, but as a parent you have to lay down the law otherwise these children will be wilding out.

Anonymous said...

If my daughter EVER call the popo onme....she will never! ever! step foot into my home again!

Anonymous said...

@ Ms. Lee said...
@12:50, I seriously doubt that chick is educated and holding degrees. It's incredibly easy to make up lives online, lol.
12:58 PM

))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I'm not even worrying about that bitch and her made for TV life. Sitting on a blog bragging and don't even know what anyone else have. Last time I checked, the richest man in the world doesn't have a college degree. Having a college degree doesn't show how smart you are but that dumb bird doesn't get that. Let her dumb ass keep on talking about not spanking kids. I bet my kids won't be throwing not one tantrum because all it takes it one look.

Anonymous said...

@11:55 I got beatings on many occasions when I was a child. Had the scars to prove it. Consequently, I don't believe in hitting children. I went to college and did not turn out to be a criminal, but I do have low self esteem and go out of my way to avoid conflict and making people angry.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe in abuse of any kind when raising children but I do believe in discipline. I also feel unless it is abuse you don't have the right to tell someone else how to conduct there household and raised there children. If you are not there with someone else child everyday seeing both side of the spectrum then STFU. I don't know everything about Creflo Dollar but I do like his as a preacher and it sounds like his child was out of hand and 15 is not that close to being 21. I am all for anyone being able to take up for themselves and to protect themselves but where would she be if her mother and father had enough of her and didn't have any mercy and her azz go probably getting some real abuse from these streets. That why I don’t have any children yet because I want a family not a long line in single motherhood and deadbeat daddyville. I would happily keep it that way if it can not be under the right terms because one parent is just not enough as we see with two rights here and not her father reputation is tainted just because she wanted to go to a party and thought that being disrespectful was the way to go.

Anonymous said...

when did spanking = abuse? I tell you these new age parents...

No wonder we have a punk ass generation. Taking the Bible out of school and putting children in a corner to give them time to think how else they can fck your life up. The you wanna pass them onto the state. FATWOOH.

Anonymous said...

hell nah it aint gotta be like this! I was a BAD ass teen and my parents never got violent with me...which is one reason I'm happy now...no emotional scars from childhood.

If you can't TALK to a child and make them understand the problem is YOU.

Anonymous said...

@11:55am

You need to stop taking advice from Oprah.

My mother and father both disciplined myself and siblings growing up. We all have college degrees and are functioning adults living on our own. I have 4 cousins, all men, who have all spent time in jail, one is in a halfway house the other is still doing time, the other two are in their late 30s and living at home with their mothers. Their mothers didn't believe in beating their children, look how that turned out. These same cousins also have violent tempers and would talk anyhow to their mothers.

I respect my parents and know that to honor them means longer life. The mere fact that my cousins are doing time is an example of how not honoring your parents stifles your growth as an individual and can even lead to and early death.

To the person talking negatively about the bible, it has produced amazing individuals who respect their parents and love God. There is a difference between abuse and dicipline. Mr. Dollar abused his daughter and that's probably because his ass was spoiling her all along and never said no, not utilizing Gods laws as they were intended. Now she's disrespectful and out of control  and he lost it.

Proverbs 13:24-25 (KJV)
24He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. 

Ephesians 6:2-4 (KJV)
2Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

You can't tell me His word isn't the TRUTH!

Anonymous said...

Spanking does not = Abuse unless it is extreme enough to leave deep wounds, excessive, or without a clear reason like discipline.

I'm sure his child is a spoiled brat who doesn't understand the full ramifications of her phone call. I doubt it was even that extreme of an attack (I'm saying this as a person who hates Creflo with a passion). I'm guessing also if you knew your dads $$ came from ill-gotten gains you'd probably be disrespectful to him.

Anonymous said...

as for 1:25 the jails are chock Full of folks who got spanked. Violence only begets violence, didn't MLK JR teach yall anything? SMH

Anonymous said...

@1:30 you ever heard of Jesus hitting anyone? You ever heard of Mary & Joseph hitting him? Even when he made them walk for 3 days looking for him when he stayed behind?

LOVE is the answer, not violence.

Anonymous said...

cosign with 11:55

Anonymous said...

I blame parents of these last 2 or 3 generations for the way kids act now. I'm in my early 30s but my parents are much older than my peers parents. I wasn't raised like my peers so I don't raise my kids the same way they raise theirs. I just notice that they give their kids too much freedom. Kids have an impression that they have a lot of control over the house hold. Kids are making decisions about their parents money. I see parents giving their kids lavish gifts even though they have poor grades in school, do no chores at home, and are disrespectful. They give their kids access to the internet and cell phones at very early ages. You've got 8 year old kids talking with strange adults in the privacy of their rooms and their parents know NOTHING about it or what's being discussed. It's sickening to me and people don't realize that they're not just spoiling their kids but it's ruining them. They're so lost to reality you see 20 somethings who still believe that it's a must that their parents pay their rent and expenses. Parents have lost their minds but wonder what is wrong with their children when the child acts like they're the adult.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
as for 1:25 the jails are chock Full of folks who got spanked. Violence only begets violence, didn't MLK JR teach yall anything? SMH
1:31 PM

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Isn't MLK the same man that was cheating on his wife?

Anonymous said...

^^^ I'm sorry ya'll I was on a long rant this issue has been burning me for a while.

Anonymous said...

No wonder there are so many gays running around. With parents like 11:55 the next generation will be last one because they are only producing punks.

Anonymous said...

@ 11:38 and 11:39

I usually don't read novels, BUT speak on it!!! Preach!!!!

Anonymous said...

@1:31

The key is to be a proper parent and work with your kids and if you spank them there is more instruction that goes along with it. There are people who just beat the crap out of their children in anger without any other kind of direction. I bet if you asked most of those guys in Prison a large majority of them will tell you even though they got hit as kids they weren't nurtured by their parents.

My .02 Cents... said...

I'm not saying it's right..BUT, I understand.

A sassy mouth (that I feed and put braces on) can take you there. Oh, sorry.. We're talking about Creflo.

Anonymous said...

Creflo give-me-a Dollar, TD Fakes, and Smiley Joel Olsteen are the false prophets we were warned about.

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.



2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Anonymous said...

@1:30
WELL SAID

Anonymous said...

@1:34pm

You watch too much history channel. Everything on their is not the gospel truth. They put out disinformation as well to confuse you, it's clearly worked. Dont forget they are owned ny thd elite. Jesus never had any children to discipline, but I'm sure if he did have children, he would still be the example of how to raise them. There is scripture backing up not sparring the rod, as a former commenter posted, so hearing about Mary and Joseph and Jesus discipline is irrelevant. Wow.

Anonymous said...

READ YOUR BIBLES PEOPLE
Proverbs 22:15
stop the hate!! Spread the love

Anonymous said...

Let her go into foster care. She'll be praying a way back into that house. Everybody knows how 15 year old girls can be. Taffi probably got cursed out first. Kids are getting raped and everything else at parties. College park, Georgia has a serious violence problem. I don't like Creflo Dollar and look for any opportunity to clown him, but I agree on this.

Anonymous said...

Well, all I can say with certainty is that my mama beat me with extension cords, metal twirling baton and such...All I know is this kind of discipline is hell on anyone self-esteem and just their outlook upon the world.

I do believe in proper spanking and various forms of non-striking disciplines because every child is different. I also think most black parents do not take this into count this fact.

Instance, my mama used the same discipline on my sister and she never reformed her behavior with this approach. She reformed mine but I became bitter, angry and withdrawn, not better.

Anonymous said...

Spanking a child turns them into violent criminals. look it up.
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Lack of discipline can do the same thing. Look that up. I was spanked, and I'm not opposed to it IF it is the last resort and IF it comes with an explanation as to why. But I'll tell you this: Any child that hits his/her parents need to have the dog shit beat out of them by said parent. Because if you disobey the laws of the home, you'll disobey the laws of the land and the whole world is a victim in waiting.

TeeCee said...

for all of you people who say dont spank your child, let me take you to school with my nephew and nieces. they are some of the bad ass nasty cussing fighting heathens you would ever meet. i went there and volunteered, i swear i could have jacked up at least 10 kids.i would like to see any of yall hit my grand mother, must less sassy or cuss them and you would have saw child abuse. these kids are way to grown and disrespectful and people. we have to do something because these kids wont live to see 40.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:21
"extension cords, metal twirling baton and such"

That's abuse. That's not a spanking. People on here are talking about spanking not abuse. If Creflo did that to his daughter, that would be a reason to call the cops. Spanking, isn't a reason.

"bitter, angry and withdrawn, not better." See a psychologist and/or psychiatrist about that.

Finally, learn the difference between spanking as a disciplinarian and outright abuse.

I'll be another said...

Give me a break!! 9 of us in our family-- we were disciplined and spanked not every day or every month, but when warranted. By the grace of God none of us or our offspring are a burden to society or law enforcement. Regardless of what society says let God be true and everyone a liar-- spare the rod and spoil the child-- if it takes till eternity to be proved right it will.To the one who is proud of not being involved with church-- be careful lest you become involved with Satan and hell.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Spanking a child turns them into violent criminals. look it up.
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Lack of discipline can do the same thing. Look that up. I was spanked, and I'm not opposed to it IF it is the last resort and IF it comes with an explanation as to why. But I'll tell you this: Any child that hits his/her parents need to have the dog shit beat out of them by said parent. Because if you disobey the laws of the home, you'll disobey the laws of the land and the whole world is a victim in waiting.
2:25 PM
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Exactly....let's see if the cops don't beat you like a slave after you raise your hands to them. I can't with people reforming to the yt man. That's why black ppl are turning into serial killers, raping kids and running around eating people. Black people follow yt too much.

Anonymous said...

If it's his teenage like 15/16 then I know first hand that she is rude as hell and uncontrollable. She was in my daughter's class at a private school in Tyrone and the teachers would talk so bad about her. Most said that the parents were too busy and she needed attention. She had DDD breast in like the 7th grade and got a perm and got the grown mouth. Not surprised and he had every right to discipline her.

Bee Gee said...

Maybe the viewpoint's a bit extreme, but if you'ont whoop ya kids ass, they just might end up whoopin yo ass. It's them or me and I aint the one. Incorporate all the things that a good parent should: Talking, teaching, loving. But as long as I'm a parent of children, the fear of an asswhoopin will always be in my cards, ready to cut that ass like the deuce of spades. To each his own..

Ms. Lee said...

LOL @ Bee Gee. Your comment is why I love you!

"But as long as I'm a parent of children, the fear of an asswhoopin will always be in my cards, ready to cut that ass like the deuce of spades. To each his own.. ."

Ms. Lee said...

This is what I'm talking about. The daughter HIT him. Who the hell hits their parent? And it's STILL people on this post, saying Creflo was wrong and spanking is wrong? F*ck ALL of that. Any child that has the audacity to deliberately strike their parent should have that ass BEAT.

Bee Gee said...

^ No doubt.

Anonymous said...

Apparently you people don't read the Bible. Foolishness is wrapped up in the heart of a child but the rod of correction etc...
Don't spare the rod and spoil the child.

Heck yes he is entitled to SPANK HIS child.

@11:55 & 11:57 if everyone that got spanked became a criminal the darn jail houses would be overflowed by now.

Because some of yall got so much spanking it aint funny.

Some of these disrespectful, rude, entitled children don't need spanking. They need a good old fashioned beat down.

Anonymous said...

some of yall need a beating. if she hit him why didn't he get his wife to beat her down? hitting her with a shoe -allegedly- OBVIOUSLY didn't solve the problem. One day he might need her to take care of him when he's old & gray. Better to try and spread some love if your 'discipline' aint working for ya. This shit aint normal so there's obviously an underlying elephant in the room aint nobody addressing.

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking to myself, "What was going on *BEFORE* in that household? What kind of discipline (or lack thereof) was he (and Taffy) imposing *before* this incident?" I mean, a 15 year-old-child who feels *emboldened* enough to reach up and hit her father (not even a parent of the same sex) must have felt very much comfortable/at liberty doing all kinds of things in that house. This incident didn't start last night; it started the first time Creflo and Taffy let stuff slide. Lax parenting for YEARS, it seems to me, brought this on.

Anonymous said...

My child hit me?????? That child will get hit!!!!! And cussed out!Bull shhit, a child hitting the parent....

Anonymous said...

I think a lot of people commenting are those who don't have teenage children or don't have children at all. If your teenager mouthed off to you about going to a party and decided to get all 'gangsta' on you and be in your face about it, you might have a different reaction.

The real story isn't being told and probably won't be told.

Co-sign with 4:08.

Anonymous said...

OoooOh! If I ever dare raised a hand to my Mother she would have BACKHAND SMACKED me so hard I would have fell down backwards on my ass!!!

Anonymous said...

What! WHAT!? She hit her Dad!? I am so sick of these over grown ass kids..."No" means fcuking "no!" Kids need to realize they can't have everything they want!I think Creflow did the right thing...he forgot to STOMP her grown fcuking ass!

Anonymous said...

That Bitch probably scratched her own neck..and then she calls the cops on him? Trifling ass bitch!

Anonymous said...

@ 2:47pm

Finally, learn the difference between spanking as a disciplinarian and outright abuse.
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I never said, I condone this type of spanking nor that I do not know the difference between abuse and spanking.

You know what, I give up. Some of you,dumbasses, do not know how to comprehend shit. Really!!!

Anonymous said...

Makes me so mad hearing this,shit...I have a half sister that cut her Mother in her face,left a 4 inch scar,she was on drugs and fighting with her mother,the mother did nothing....I made some of the above comments, inc 4:36....Yall see why I'm so madd

Anonymous said...

Ok so lets all take note...if our kids hit us just take it,so we don't get arrested...but we are creating a criminal,in our child that doesn't know not to hit a parent...this behavior will lead to not respecting authority,later maybe jail....

Anonymous said...

kids are assholes!

Anonymous said...

it was a little more than lax parenting 4:08. acting up is a sign of something much deeper. she could have been abused as a kid or even molested. children don't hit their parents unless some serious emotional shit is going on. even children who get into hard drugs have deep emotional scars, it's been proven.

Either way, somebody has to be the bigger and wiser party. 2 wrongs will never make a right. he's the one that went to jail not her.

Anonymous said...

Even a dog thats well fed and loved will never bite the hand that feeds it. Human beings are a step above an animal. This child needs love not beatings. Think this is the first time something like this happened? OK then why didn't the beatings work before? duh.

Anonymous said...

Slave masters beat black people and look how fucked up they are now. All in the name of discipline.....

Anonymous said...

I love u and respect you Creflo Dollar for being such a great man and minister. It is your responsibility to discipline your children, if you don't, the world will. The world will have no sympathy for your children, even unto death, and will blame you for them being the way that they are. So as a parent, you're damned if you do, damned if u don't. I'm with you Creflo. Some ppl on here with their comments didn't get their asses whooped. So disrespectful with their comments, on someone else's business. And for those that of the same skin color as Mr. Dollar, u know your negative comments are so out of line...Haters of your own. Don't like it when you're hated on...RIDICULOUS

Anonymous said...

They've had reasons to lock his ass up for years.

Anonymous said...

@12:50

You checked the hoe! She is nothing but a house nigga. Only slaves get up on websites and work for free.

What does education have to do with you writing your opinion on a blog!

Anonymous said...

@5:02

Not true, shit for brains. Slave masters beating slaves has very little to do with discipline and more to do with belittlement, dehumanization, and torture. I swear there are some way fucked in the head people in here. You have to be stupid to compare spanking a child with slave masters whipping slaves. GTFOH!

Anonymous said...

Bee Gee said...
Maybe the viewpoint's a bit extreme, but if you'ont whoop ya kids ass, they just might end up whoopin yo ass. It's them or me and I aint the one. Incorporate all the things that a good parent should: Talking, teaching, loving. But as long as I'm a parent of children, the fear of an asswhoopin will always be in my cards, ready to cut that ass like the deuce of spades. To each his own..
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you're the king BeeGee

Anonymous said...

from beegee:

Maybe the viewpoint's a bit extreme, but if you'ont whoop ya kids ass, they just might end up whoopin yo ass. It's them or me and I aint the one. Incorporate all the things that a good parent should: Talking, teaching, loving. But as long as I'm a parent of children, the fear of an asswhoopin will always be in my cards, ready to cut that ass like the deuce of spades. To each his own..
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Anonymous said...

You have to be stupid to compare spanking a child with slave masters whipping slaves. GTFOH!
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The person is saying slaves learned how to beat the children from the massa.....slaves beat their children so the massa would not..You sir or madam are the stupid one for not knowing the real truth!We were treated like animals by white people,an abused animal will bite...slaves were abused animals ,so to speak, they did to their children what was done to them....100's of years later,this is locked in our minds....other races beat children too..but blacks do it more intense,maybe?

Anonymous said...

the analogy aint between slave beatings and spankings it's between beatings and abuse. THINK DEEPER. Just like slaves could've been disciplined without all the torture, this child could have been disciplined w/o her daddy going to jail. duh.

Anonymous said...

Respect is earned not granted. Kids respect parents who love and nurture them and not demand respect just because. Problem children can be dealt with there are lots of options....besides hitting them with a shoe and getting popped. SMMFH.

Anonymous said...

Kids need discipline. You cannot have an adult discussion and reason with a child, they are children. Basic discipline is what they understand, not abuse. Nothing wrong with a spanking now and then, followed with being told why they are receiving it. Those in the prison system/violent criminals etc were "abused" some sexually....not spanked. Research it. Most serial killers were "abused" as children aka severe beatings/mental-emotional abuse/observing mothers abuse.

I was spanked as a child, sometimes with whatever was around, but I also had a loving environment. I grew up to be a college educated woman and have never been in trouble. I'm glad my parents didn't let me do whatever the hell I wanted. When they took discipline out of schools, they really fucked up. For some kids, the principals paddle was the only discipline they ever got. Mom was too tired and dad was unknown. 11:55 your ass is stone cold crazy with that fucked up theology.

Part of the new world agenda is destruction of the family unit. My white friend's 5 year old son beat the shit out of her and pulled her hair out b/c she told him no about something. She never spanked him. He has temper tantrums and slaps her. Now as a teenager he talks back to her and does not respect his mother at all. A black parent will not put up with that...you will get that ass spanked and learn right from wrong early in life.

Anonymous said...

@ 4:55PM

But to hit her father...over going to a party....at 1 in the morning...a 15-year-old? I'm not saying Creflo is excusable (my original post shows that), but the circumstances just don't add up to garner much sympathy from me for homegirl.

I understand the emotional scars (I got 'em), but this reeks of girl with what I call "too much self-esteem," the delusional kind that often comes with affluence and privilege and motivates one to pop off like such.

That said, however, there *might* be some (lack of) love issues that *could* be at play. It could very well be a case of wealthy neglect, where the child born of prominent parents are neglected in the parents' pursuit of their goals and ambition. She could have been just acting out of those feeling of abandonment. I am sympathetic to that.

Still, the evidence and circumstances do not add up in her favor, imho.

Who knows? I'm sure more details will arise.

Anonymous said...

@5:02 p.m.

Enslaving your own children for sexual sadists activities involves beatings does it not? Mental illness was defined with your race of people in mind.

Starving children plays a role in mental illness. You turn to cannibalism due to starvation.

Discipline(spankings)will probably keep your children from killing you for insurance money!

It will also help from being embarrassed because your child went to school and killed his/her classmates.

Anonymous said...

NUBIAN, um, whatever u call urself. While I respect other ppl & their opinion, urs however have become way too much. Everywhere u blog u leave a very bad taste in ppl mouths & it's very annoying that u ALWAYS have something negative to say!! U can come back w/whatever bullshit(like u always do)I won't be responding!! Have a good day!!

Anonymous said...

@5:02

Creflo Dollar is a pulpit pimp he worships money and money only. He shouldn't get any more respect than any one else because he's black. People like you are the reason why people get locked into these harmful cult like situations.

Anonymous said...

is creflo dollar is real name? it can't be.

Anonymous said...

@11:55 pm -yo dumb ass must be a honkey? what do you do? put them in time out? gtfohwtbs!!!!

Anonymous said...

Creflo getmoredollar beats daughters ass! god is shaming all the false prophets...get em all Jesus

Just Me said...

Spanking most DEFINITELY is ABUSE and all psychological studies show it. Black folks are the only ignoramus still talking about, "I was whooped and it made me a good person." If spanking taught kids the right things, then why do black males have a 50% high school drop out rate; 70% out of wedlock birth rate in black community; black males make up only 6% of the US population, but 50% of the prison population; black females account for the highest numbers of new AIDs cases; the leading cause of death for black males between the ages of 16-30 yrs old is homicide...

Black people kill me always talking about how white kids act...but how do they ultimately end up is the REAL question; and the REAL answer is much more SUCCESSFUL than their black counterparts---FACT!!!

Black people give lip-service to their book of fairy tales, but have the most immoral lifestyles. While you're quoting that bullshit from your book of make-believe about spoil the rod, spare the child, you should also quote Deuteronomy 21:18-21 that says an unruly child should be stoned to death.

You people are so stupid and gullible. How moral can a book be that condones slavery; killing innocent children as a plague; commits genocide; is filled with incest (we're all descendants of Adam and Eve? And who did Cane and Abel procreate with?); and sexism (women are unclean when they menstruate and are sent away from their homes! Really...and who created menstruation...oh, that's right, GOD!)

Carry on with your BS quotes from your book of contradictions. And keep abusing your children--in accordance with your good book--so they can continue to grow up to be the least successful, yet the most angry and have the lowest self-esteem.

Anonymous said...

choking and spanking are two different things
I believe in good ole fashioned ass whoopings, but something is definitely not right when a man wraps his big ole hands around his daughter's neck and proceeds to cut off her air supply
That's Abuse

Anonymous said...

Damn the police didn't even let the good righteous Rev. Dollar$$$ put in his just for men hair dye before taking his mugSHOT. Now that's a crime.

Anonymous said...

10:03pm

Thank you very damn much.

Anonymous said...

@9:05

I don't get how you have the impression that white people don't spank their kids...or that all black people spank their kids.

Anonymous said...

TeeCee said...
for all of you people who say dont spank your child, let me take you to school with my nephew and nieces. they are some of the bad ass nasty cussing fighting heathens you would ever meet. i went there and volunteered, i swear i could have jacked up at least 10 kids.i would like to see any of yall hit my grand mother, must less sassy or cuss them and you would have saw child abuse. these kids are way to grown and disrespectful and people. we have to do something because these kids wont live to see 40.

2:31 PM


Thank you TeeCee,I come to these blogs to unwind and have a good laugh! As a teacher, I have been cussed at, had kids run up on me, etc.
The girls are as bad as the boys, they cuss like sailors and fight like men the boxing ring. Oh, how I wish somethimes that I could just...the girls strip in clubs on the weekend and brag about it on Monday...Unreal! Parents, please parent! I came from the old school where my mother would slap you into the next week...those where the days!

Anonymous said...

Fuck this fake ass Bible-thumping coon.

Anonymous said...

how old is his daughter? wrestling with your daughter? who dies that lol

Anonymous said...

does that lol

Anonymous said...

10:03 said it so good

"choking and spanking are two different things
I believe in good ole fashioned ass whoopings, but something is definitely not right when a man wraps his big ole hands around his daughter's neck and proceeds to cut off her air supply
That's Abuse "

Anonymous said...

@9:05

Abuse dumb cunt is killing your children and blaming it on Munchausen syndrome. Better yet you kill your children just to kill! Let me provide several examples of abuse.

The missing Utah woman's husband took an ax and killed the two boys. They suffered a horrible death. He beat them! It's called abuse!

Drowning your own children in a bath tube is abuse. Rolling your car in the river killing two children strapped in their seats is abuse!!

"Gullible" shall I provide examples:

1) " cooking meth" you blow up the damn block with the children inside.
2) Afraid of your own children.

You heard the saying "last shall be first and first shall be last". Huh your race is going to jail at an alarming rate!
insurance fraud, murder.

Crackers end up successful on the backs of others (blacks)Fact! History shows how you stole and continue to steal! Since Obama has been in office he has exposed you honkie's for the devils you are.

Let me make it clear without our inventions you would not have! That's called successful! It's been used for century's! Need I remind you about the proof I provided in the Epps post.

Keep talking shit honkie!!

TheUltimate said...

I'm Black and I agree with 9:05 PM.

So may AA ppl equate discipline as spanking exclusively, and believe if kids aren't spanked they are doomed. Where's the proof? How can we be so proud to spank our kids more than others do (and brag about it even), when we're disproportionately represented in prison and OOW births, but underrepresented in college, med school and Silicon Valley?

How can we be so supportive of a grown MAN choking a 15yo girl? Clearly, the rod didn't straighten out the daughter in that household. What kind of desired outcome can you get out of laying hands on your child? Would you rather her make decisions based on fear of her parents than teaching her right from wrong in a non-physical manner? Is it okay for her to think that it's acceptable for her to be struck by men?

TheUltimate said...

Growing up, I was spanked by my parents and grandmother. I can't say I was abused (except for the time I got the belt after I accidentally broke one of my father's favorite drinking glasses while washing dishes at age 13), but I can't say it made me a better person, or kept me out of jail, or all the other claptrap ppl are spewing here. I'm a good person in spite of the spankings.

I never learned anything from spankings --- not a thing. I wasn't really a bad kid, because that just wasn't in my DNA. For my parents, spankings were about asserting their control over me, not corrective action. When they actually put down the belt, the houseshoe, or the hairbrush, and disciplined me in non-violent ways (e.g. talking to me and explaining the errors of my ways, taking away TV, making me pay for things I broke) they were much more effective.

The only thing I got out of spankings as a kid was that it was okay to hit siblings and peers when they made me mad.

Just Me said...

@11:25

I do not believe ALL black people spank or ALL whites don't spank. My statement was to make a point, in general. This is a black blog and I assume 99% of the people commenting are black, as am I. My statement was in regards to the majority of the comments on this thread, and in the black community in general, condoning and attempting to justify spanking as effective parenting.

Every psychological study identifies spanking as lowering kids self-esteem and producing angry kids, while not being a method of communication. The prisons are filled with angry and psychologically damaged people whose parents would say, they "spanked" their kids in a manner that social workers would define as abuse.

I get so angry and frustrated that our community continues to be the one to harbor so much ignorance, despite the fact that it is ruining us. If spanking teaches the right values, then it should bear healthy fruit.

Would you, or anyone else for that matter, consider the current state of the black community healthy? Does anyone not see the need to change the foundation of our homes and families and how we raise our kids as the main catalyst to turning our communities around?

And don't even get me started on how the ignorance and superstition of religion has continued to be the downfall of the black community...

Just Me said...

@11:36am:

The degree of your stupendous ignorance is utterly staggering! And the fact that you could read my statement and conclude that I'm white or in your words a "cracker" is just...well, I already called you ignorant so I'll just direct you to my statement above.

Your unintelligible dribble is the "same shit, different day" typed nonsense. That's right continue to blame the white man for all of the ills in the black community while we, as a race and community, continue to self-destruct.

And since you are obviously too ignorant to comprehend, let me break it down for you...murder is NOT--I repeat, is NOT--the only way to abuse a child. Abuse, just like ignorance, has a WIDE range of degrees and variations.

Let me guess...your "mama whooped your ass" and it made you into a better person...

Anonymous said...

So If you are spanked your doomed? There are a lot of individuals in the AA community who were spanked and are productive citizens! Myself and my siblings are productive adults with careers!!

Being spanked doesn't make you violent. My family doesn't resort to violence!!

Hell I know a couple of people who resort to violence and they weren't spanked as kids!!

So let's not assume spankings cause violence! Oh wait you base your opinion on stats a damn white man wrote! GTFOH!

Being under represented has nothing to due with spankings. Absent parents or lack of parenting! Or simply choosing the wrong path period!!

Shit white people make bad decision and they weren't spanked as kids!!

Only a house nigga would agree with another race who degrades us in a damn post!!

Anonymous said...

^^ this post is meant for "the ultimate said"

Anonymous said...

Where is it documented that statistics come from white men exclusively?! Who brought the white man into this discussion other than black people?

We don't need white people to tear our communities down, we do an excellent job of that all by our damn selves. In fact, it's one of our greatest accomplishments. Compare the state of the black community Pre-Civil Rights Movement to the current day. We were more successful when we DIDN'T have equal rights (on paper anyway). Hell, all you have to do is read this blog everyday and read the insults black men hurl at black women and vice-verse to see how we REALLY view ourselves.

'The Ultimate Said' (I got your back) didn't write anything but the truth, IMO. The problem with the black community is that we continue to hold firm to ignorance and old wives tales and are resistant to reason and progress. Spanking damages children's psyche, point.blank.period. Medical evidence fully supports it, not your old wives tells told to you by Big Mama. The fact that you defend your own abuse shows just how brain washed and deluded you truly are. And the cycle of abuse will continue with your children, I'm sure.

Tell me one positive outcome that spanking DID NOT produce that loving, consistent, corrective, communicative, quality parenting couldn't produce at a much greater and more effective rate.

I won't hold my breath for an answer...

Anonymous said...

I LOVE A GOOD PREACHER EVANGELIST HOLY ROLLER SCANDAL BRING ON THE JUICE!

Anonymous said...

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Creflo finna be in that jail cell with his lip turned up like Charlie Baltimore in Down Ass Bitch, selling prayer cloths for soap on a rope.

Anonymous said...

@4:35
Go stand in the corner
LMAO

Anonymous said...

Kids were more grounded growing up in the 70's and 80's I believe it was because parents could correct there child. When it started I guest in the late 90's up to know you can't correct your child. Now kids are weak, punk's, easily insulted. That's why you have incident's like kids shooting up schools cause someone teased them.

Anonymous said...

Ass whippings are a two way street. Children jump on parents, too.

Anonymous said...

"Physically spanking children as a form of discipline is harmful to them and a crime."

God is smarter than man and he commands to spank with a rod! Proverbs 13:24; 23:13-14

Reasons to spank:

1. The so called "studies" that supposedly prove spanking is harmful to the children are junk science, agenda driven, opinion papers sponsored by anti-spanking interest groups that dishonestly skew the data. The studies and those who report them are by anti-Christian, left leaning, liberal/democratic products of our immoral modern society. Anti-spanking groups are a cause the significant decay of society. Most of the young kids of these anti-spanking groups are very poorly behaved.

2. Spanking makes the children fear the parents, thereby reducing future need of discipline. If children truly feared parents and teachers, it would dramatically improve society. First children learn to fear their parents and obey them. Second, they learn to fear God and obey Him.

4. Spanking is more merciful to the child over grounding and "time-outs" because the discipline over quickly and forgiven. The child feels good faster because all is forgiven.

5. Spanking is often the only form of punishment that is truly effective for the child.


So anyone who says spanking is harmful need to get somewhere and SIT DOWN!!!

Anonymous said...

Thing is, she SAID that's what he did. It doesn't mean he did it. Now, what consequences does she get for bowing up at her father? As the parent of a teen, it saddened me that he feels this is "same problem every parent goes through'. I thinks NOT.

Anonymous said...

P.S. I got "whoopins" as a child. I am well-adjusted, educated and everything else that goes against the negatives of hitting children. I think just like all discipline/correction tools, it should be done out of love and not wits-end frustration. Plus, what works for one, may not ne necessary for another.

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Anonymous said...

Black people! So many of our communities are beyond violent. We've been spanking our kids for centuries, and yet, you think spankings work? The problems of today are just the result of undealt issues of yesterday. Stop acting like todays kids are not an extension of you and a reflection of you. The logic in our communities makes no sense which may explain why we are where we are. So many Blacks love to say that violence is the result of not being whipped. Slavery serioulsy screwed up many of our heads. Most Blacks I know cannot comprehend discipline without hitting. Attention people...Proven statistics show that most criminals in prison were spanked. How do you argue that? Ironically, we are filling up jail cells in the hundreds of thousands with many men and women who don't know how to deal with their emotions unless expressing them through physical aggression. HMMMMMMMM. DUH? How can we look at our communities and think we should continue doing what we've always done...particullarly notions of discipline taught to us by slavemasters. Yes, there are those who were spanked who believe that their successes prove that spankings work. Nonsense! If that is the logic, then we should begin molesting our kids because Oprah was molested and she became a billionaire. Perhaps, we should also subject our kids to trauma because many kids who endure trauma go on to be very successful. Bottom line is, a child can become successful regardless of his or her upbringing. Their success doesn't necessarily mean that you were a great parent. As a matter of fact, obstacles can drive us to success including the abusive notion of corporal punishment. Yes, it has also been proven that those who are driven to become successes often have childhood issues that they are attempting to erase through success. But regardless of your disposition with spankings, why on earth would anyone not at least consider the possibility of not spanking if those who've studied the concept have revealed negative findings about spankings. Stubborn communities will always remain stagnant because they don't have the courage to look in the mirror and say "maybe we're getting it wrong". FYI....Statistics have found that Blacks are the most likely to spank. Statistics also show that Asians are least likely to spank, and Whites are somewhere in the middle. Is it just a coincedence that this just so happens to be the order of family income, education, and academic achievement in America. The Fool, however, will ignore the notions. The slave will never know what discipline truly is because he can't comprehend it unless Massah whips him.

Anonymous said...

It is really sad when instead of reading our bible's and getting the real answers for ourselve's we watch t.v. with all its short-cuts to the bible and we assume that its right!!! The Bible teaches to disciple our children and furthermore; the gov't. doesn't want our God in their schools so it only makes sense to keep the gov't out of Chritian Homes. To the Supreme Court I say. I can't disciple my Child but the Police can shoot and kill them????!??!!! Come on people let's use a little logic here.

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